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Omaroo
14-10-2009, 08:04 AM
This article has just appeared in our local rag in south-western Sydney. Please, if you have the time, have a look at the article and post a comment supporting this council initiative. Maybe other councils will look at what's going on and propose similar guidelines in your own area.

http://macarthur-chronicle-campbelltown.whereilive.com.au/news/story/light-pollution-under-attack-from-campbelltown-stargazers/



I've posted the following:

Outbackmanyep
14-10-2009, 08:27 AM
Well at least it's getting through to someone and being talked about, the need is for more sensible lighting to minimise waste light being sent upwards, while at the same time not risking lighting needed for public safety.
Councils will be quick to poo-poo the idea because they think that we need to switch lights off and plunge everyone into darkness, which is a knee-jerk reaction at large!
Try Country Energy (Integral Energy in the sticks) that has an option as a fee to put a whopping great spotlight fom a power pole to light up your business from the road, if you have seen these then you will see what a great WASTE of light and electricity they are! The churches around Armidale have these set-ups which point upwards to illuminate their spiral structures and don't give a flying f&$% about the night sky.......like many people do......

Good luck with it!

mithrandir
14-10-2009, 08:36 AM
We were out at Siding Spring on Saturday and they have a mosaic of the light pollution from there. Glows from Sydney, Newcastle, Port Macquarie and a number of other country towns are clearly visible. Coonabarabran is too, and you'd think they would have enough influence to get at least those fixed.

The best skies we saw were from Beechworth, Vic. SWMBO wouldn't let me take anything bigger than binos. :sadeyes:

astronut
14-10-2009, 10:29 AM
We astronomers are (at least in the interim) never going to influence politicians to change the lighting laws (and enforce them) by using the disappearance of the night sky as the reason.
We have to hit them in their ideology!!:lol:
Climate change is the "Religion" of the political sphere around the world, so...........we inform them that all those power sapping lighting units are contributing to the demise of the planet.
They won't be able to have much comeback from there!!

renormalised
14-10-2009, 11:04 AM
Well, I live nowhere near Campbelltown and I just put my 2 cents worth down. The problem is many councils just don't want to hear what you have to say and being politicians many will just ignore you. Best way to get them to change is to make it an election issue as well as a public interest/environmental issue and say to them if they don't do something about it, then they'll get voted out of office or not get voted in (if they're the opposition).

TrevorW
14-10-2009, 11:16 AM
They keep sighting security as an issue but thats BS stats show that most robberies happen during daylight hours

Whats wrong with turning them off residential street lights after say 1:00pm like they use to do

Darth Wader
14-10-2009, 03:06 PM
I read this article in the Chronicle last night with a heavy heart. I have all but accepted the fact that light pollution is going to increase considerably over the coming years to the point where I'll have to A) move out west or B) sell the scopes.:P
BUT... I believe there is a way for this to possibly work in our favour - in addition to the environmental impact, both the council and Joe Public need to be made aware of the financial cost of light pollution. Everybody likes saving money, especially whilst we're riding the "Global Economic Crisis" wave. Lighting gets corrected, taxpayers save money, astronomers do a merry jig. Yes, I'm an idealist.:thumbsup: