would you end it

[Baron von Richthofen]

no

[jjjnettie]

End what?
Please explain.

[DavidU]

Whats going on Vars?

[matt]

Cryptic....

One would assume, given the phrasing of the title and the oft-spoken nature of 'end it'... it's about euthanasia....but it could be about anything, really.

If it is about 'pulling the pin' on oneself or a family member or loved one...I'm not much into that for a topic of discussion, sorry.:)

[starlooker]

I would end it if TEN ever brings back Judge Joe Brown!

[matt]

:lol:

[Baron von Richthofen]

I am in a very bad state at the moment and in a delusional state because I have been up since 4am in extreeeeeme pain and I ran out of my morphine it is still about a hour away:help2:

[DavidU]

Vars, can you ring some for help?

[starlooker]

Hang in there mate, we'll keep you company. :)

So what TV shows do you like, Vars?

[jjjnettie]

Poor baby. It's not going to be easy getting through this.
You need to centre yourself.
Try to take your focus off the pain.
Easy for me to say I know. But I've been there, in a small way, and kinda know what you're going through.
I'll send you as many positive thoughts as I can.

[AstralTraveller]

Hang on, hang on tight. Phone 131114 for help. :hi:

[astroron]

Hang In there mate, help must be at hand soon:thumbsup:

[Liz]

Think about something else, is you can ..... what did you decide on the cameras :)

[DavidU]

Are you there Vars? Talk to us mate

[Baron von Richthofen]

Thank you all, this does not happen to often, thank good but I will be ok soon, un fortunately my problems permanent, boy I do miss looking at the stars
I don't watch TV I watch DVD but I am getting HD TV on my laptop soon

[jjjnettie]

We're all here with you.
Wish we could wave a magic wand and make everything better.

[jjjnettie]

Don't be backward in letting us know when it does happen. You don't have to go through this on your own.

[Baron von Richthofen]

I am still here sorry for the slow reply but I can only use on screen keyboard because I cant sit up
I have had a couch of sorts set up so I can do photos I will be getting A Canon S5

[Liz]

AM sure the Canon will be great.
Are you in hospital?

[DavidU]

The canon sounds great ! Whats you dream solar scope?

[Baron von Richthofen]

No I am at home, my dear wife is looking after me she out getting drugs should be home very soon
I would love to have a Coronado 90 but even if I had one I could no use it

[jjjnettie]

You'll be able to do some quite nice wide field images with the Canon.
Setting it up on a tripod and taking multiple 15sec exposures.
It's what kept me going after my big op. Don't know how I would have made it if it wasn't for that little camera and IIS.

[DavidU]

Yes some wide fields ! A lot of fun there

[jjjnettie]

And the macro capability!! It takes fantastic macros.
Pollen from flowers, spiders, even close ups of fabric look awesome.

[Baron von Richthofen]

I totally can relate to that, I hope to be getting the camera setup by wife for those kind of shots

[jjjnettie]

Ving, our resident macro king, puts flies and insects in the fridge to slow them down, then takes the most amazing photos of them before they wake up and fly away.

[Baron von Richthofen]

I did not think of putting them in the fridge what a good idea here is some I have taken

[FredSnerd]

Hey I got a joke for you Vars

A chicken crossed the road and met James Bond.

"What's your name?" asked the chicken.

"Bond, James Bond. What's yours?"


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"Ken, Chick Ken."

[jjjnettie]

There's no link to click.

Yes, if you cool them down, they'll curl up in a little ball, then you'll have a 5 minute lee way to snap as many macro's as you can.
I don't recommend bee's or other bities cause they'll get pretty angry when they wake up.

[Baron von Richthofen]

:rofl::rofl::rofl:Took me a wile to get that

[jjjnettie]

Claude....
That's such a bad joke.
I'll have to remember that one and tell my kids this arvo.

[starlooker]

Speaking of fun with insects, if anyone has a microscope, squash an ant, and have a look. One of the most beautiful sights you will ever see.

This was suggested to me in grade 5, by a beautiful Greek girl, whom I was madly in love with! :D

[FredSnerd]

Hey I love those pics Vars. Did you take those?

You know that one of the Bee. It seems to have the orangie clump around its leg. Is that the pollen sack or something. When I was a kid this Nun told us that bees have a little bucket on their leg to collect the honey and I spent all holidays trying to see a bee carrying a bucket. I didnt find one then. But have I now?

[DavidU]

Ken chick Ken:lol:
Great macros Vars ! The dragonfly is a beaut

[Baron von Richthofen]

Yes I took them and I like to leve my subjects alone and you are right thay are the pollen sack
The things you do for love

[jjjnettie]

That dragonfly is awesome. So hard to get them to sit still though.

[FredSnerd]

Jeanette,

You know how out of the blue a joke just gets you sometimes. No rhyme or reason to it. yeah this joke for me. Someone told me it the other day and I was in the right place at the right time and havent stopped laughing about it. It just keeps on giving you know.

[Baron von Richthofen]

Thank you all for helping me through this, the drugs have arrived and I will try and get some sleep
Thank you all very much again

[jjjnettie]

You're going to love your little Canon when you get it.
I have a Canon 20d now, but no way would I get rid of my S3IS. It's way too versatile. I've even used the video function to image Jupiter and Saturn. Taking the .avi's and processing them in Registax.

[jjjnettie]

Any time you need help, just post a thread saying "Cheer me up" or something. If we're online, we'll be there for you.

[Liz]

Have a restful sleep - as jjj said, we are there for ya :):)

[astroron]

Look forward to more of your images:) sleep tight:thumbsup:

[dpastern]

I really recommend on not doing this - it is cruel to the animal in question. I mean, people don't shoot birds with tranquilisers so they can be slow enough to take photos of. When dealing with nature photography, the best thing to do is to look but not touch.

Dave

[dpastern]

Good set of images there Vars. It's always nice to see another macro photographer.

Dave

[dpastern]

Claude - yes, it'll be the pollen sack. It's not an uncommon site. As an example:

http://www.macro-images.com/images/Macro/Insects/Bees/slides/CRW_1920hs.html

Dave

[dpastern]

Dragonflies have excellent eyesight - both on the main eyes, and their oceli (primitive eyes). The best way to approach them from my experience is to crawl on your belly, and slowly at that. Do not let your shadow fall on them. No noises. No sudden movements. Preferably upwind of them too. Some more information can be gleamed from my website:

http://www.macro-images.com/understanding4.html

Others may appreciate the info as well. troypiggo is very good at macro imaging as well, and will offer excellent advice if you ask him!

Dave

[FredSnerd]

Thanks dave, good pic

[dpastern]

Was a crappy one to be honest - around 1.4 stops underexposed, had to rescue it quite badly, hence a lot of noise. Cleaning up the noise removed a lot of fine detail...pity, cos I did a good job of focus on the BIF (bee in flight). This is a native Australian bee, they're harmless, no stingers, very social, around 4-5mm long.

Dave

[gts055]

Time in the fridge is fine, (not the freezer), The fridge mimics a cold day for an insect and merely reduces the rate of chemical reactions and hence insect activity. Insects are heterothermic, ie "cold blooded" and utilize ambient temperature to regulate activity. Mark

[bloodhound31]

Hey Vars, did you ever think about getting a paralellogram build for your astro-gear. Those things can lean right over your bed/chair. If you can't get to the gear, bring the gear to you!

Baz.

[dpastern]

I really must disagree. It is never morally, or professionally acceptable to interfere with your subject. Whether it's possible or not, doesn't make it a responsible thing to do. Ask John Shaw or Artie Morris what they think of it and they'll agree with me, as will many thousands of nature photographers.

Dave

[AstralTraveller]

I normally don't worry about threads being hijacked, but I ask you: is it appropriate in this case?

[dpastern]

Well, the OP enjoys macro photography to some degree, someone mentioned putting insects etc in the fridge, and I'm simply saying that it's not morally acceptable etc. True, I've wandered off topic, but so have a bunch of others then if that's the case, and it's not uncommon for threads to morph too.

As a nature photographer, I feel quite strongly about inappropriately handling animals, etc. Part of the thrill of getting a good macro shot is learning how to stalk the insect/arachnid and not scare it off, whilst getting all the technical aspects of macro photography right too.

Dave

[marki]

Dave any wandering off topic was an effort to keep Vars mind occupied on anything but his pain. This is not the thread to have a fight on.

Mark

[styleman333]

Amazingly caring ppl u all are


:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thum bsup::thumbsup:

[stephenb]

I haven't interjected until now, as I came into the thread late in the piece.

Everyone hits some rough times. Some of us worse than others.Vars, I'm thinking of you mate! Take care. :)

[dpastern]

True, Mark, true.

Dave

[AstralTraveller]

Agree about the fight. My concern was exactly that the 'insect in fridge' discussion was starting to sound like a fight. I didn't object to the macro photos or the parellelogram but became concerned when I detect a negative tone.

Hey, Vars, we care so much we're having fights about the best way to look after you. :D:D:D:hi:

[Baron von Richthofen]

Hi All
Back to normal at lest my normal
Thank you all for your help I couldn't have dun it with out you all
I thank you all again with all my heart
Vars:)

[Baron von Richthofen]

I have sold all my astro gear a wile back because how things were progressing but thanks for the idea
Vars

[dpastern]

Well, that's good Vars. Happy to see things better for you.

Dave