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dugnsuz
03-09-2009, 08:31 PM
Hello all...
First (very quick) attempt at Synthetic RGB imaging on 2 of the most OIII-free objects up there:lol:...Cat's Paw and Lobster nebulae!!!!
40D modded, 300mm f4L lens
Astronomik EOS Clip-In Ha and OIII filters
Ha: 8x10mins
OIII: 12x10mins
Processing:
1.Split both Ha and OIII images into component RGB channels.
2.Used Ha(red) channel, OIII(green) and OIII(blue) channels.
3.Merged above files into a new RGB image.
4.Tweaked in PS CS4
Will try more sophisticated methods soon hopefully.
High Res...
http://s327.photobucket.com/albums/k461/doug-robertson/?action=view¤t=22aa.jpg
Cheers - all comments welcome.
Doug:thumbsup:
By Gees Dougie, you are getting very professional there mate. ;)
Top image by the way, you are doing some great stuff with that lens, well done indeed. :thumbsup:
Look forward to seeing some other stuff.
I might even have a go one day it it ever clears down here. :shrug:
Leon :thumbsup:
dugnsuz
03-09-2009, 08:39 PM
Cheers leon - still havin' fun...that's all that matters!!
Doug:)
avandonk
03-09-2009, 09:09 PM
Did you notice Doug that with the method you used at least the stars are white! What you should do next is try to get a normal full spectrum colour image to get the star colours.
looks very good to me.
bert
Hagar
03-09-2009, 09:26 PM
Looks a lot better Doug. At least the stars don't have that pukey aqua halo we both have suffered from in the past with the Ha RGB blends.
Still work to be done but at least you seem to be on the right track.
Still waiting for my OIII and SII filters to arrive, some clear skies and then just the will to go out and get back into it again.
Well done Doug.
DavidU
03-09-2009, 09:44 PM
Jeez that was a quick learn Doug ! It came out great. I also like Bert suggestion
cookie8
03-09-2009, 09:54 PM
That's awesome Doug.:thumbsup:The 2 objects fit in nicely. Top drawer stuff.
dugnsuz
03-09-2009, 10:19 PM
Agreed Bert (not the "looks good..."part, but the "...stars are white" bit!!!) - now a question!
Would that mean a short set of RGBs would be needed to capture star colours only - or is another 18x10mins job!!!!????
Thanks Doug - yeah, those HaRGB star colours are as you say...pukey!!
I considered the SII filter, but really I think I would be wasting my time using it on a DSLR. Jeez, OIII is pushing the envelope as it is!!!
Beginners Luck David !!!:thumbsup:
Too kind Vincent - this really is a very rough first go, but I'm happy it wasn't a complete disaster!! Cheers - how's that EQ5 going? Any more images coming our way soon??
Doug:thumbsup::thumbsup:
toryglen-boy
03-09-2009, 10:26 PM
way hay! thats what im talking about fella, thats a lovely image, sharp, vivid colours, and lots detail ... hope i get this good one day
:thumbsup:
dugnsuz
03-09-2009, 10:55 PM
Cheers Duncan - your not doing too badly from what I see mate!
Doug:thumbsup:
renormalised
04-09-2009, 01:01 AM
Great piccie Doug...and there's a semi load of detail still in that piccie waiting to be pulled out:D:D
avandonk
04-09-2009, 08:42 AM
Would that mean a short set of RGBs would be needed to capture star colours only - or is another 18x10mins job!!!!????
No you only need enough exposure to get just the stars. Obviously you would only use a LPR filter.
Bert
dugnsuz
04-09-2009, 09:46 AM
Thanks Carl - looking forward to trying this method out on some other objects now.
Cheers Bert - 1-2 week wait for my new Hutech LPS2 to arrive, so I may go crazy on the OIII data first. Got some M8/M20 and M17 Ha data to work with... fun fun fun!!!!!!!
bmitchell82
04-09-2009, 01:25 PM
Not bad at all Doug, now im just waiting to get some clear skies and no moon... :S winter time is so harsh for a astro junkie :( Im looking to have a good crack at the Swan Neb M17 on the 20th of this month. that is if the newly modded 40d gets back from its open heart operation in time gastly ERORR 99.....
off topic bert, with the star colours the only stars i generaly get colours out of are the really bright ones which figures. so taking a really short exp to capture the stars will bring out this colouring? then stack in something like DSS?
multiweb
04-09-2009, 05:53 PM
Very nice Doug. :thumbsup: Now I definitely wanna have a go at that one. :)
dugnsuz
04-09-2009, 05:53 PM
Cheers Brendan - this winter has been a shocker. I had hoped for clear, very cold night to freeze that sensor and push the iso!
Nice work Doug.
Love the fov too.
:thumbsup:
dugnsuz
05-09-2009, 12:50 AM
Cheers Andrew - 300mm FL is a sweet spot for 1.6x crop sensor DSLRs I reckon!? (and full frame too - oops sorry Bert!!)
Still unsure of this method v's one shot colour - is it worth it!?
I'll have to do a RGB v's Synthetic RGB comparison to get to the answer!!
More work!!! Jeez I need early retirement to fulfill my extra-curricular commitments!!!:P
dugnsuz
05-09-2009, 12:54 AM
Thankyou Marc - you certainly have the tools at your disposal! QHY8 and the 5"Newt or ED80 +NB filters on the Cat's Paw would be very nice.
Doug
Nightskystargaz
05-09-2009, 01:36 AM
Doug,
:), nice pic. I've never saw it in a telescope, only in pic's.
Thanks,
Tom
Octane
06-09-2009, 12:19 AM
Doug,
That /thing/ in the top right is a dust mite. You know, the ones that live in your bed sheets! :P
Beautiful work. That lens is a corker. :)
Regards,
Humayun
dugnsuz
06-09-2009, 12:26 AM
Cheers H - this is a method I could get to like as I was out imaging OIII data under a full moon last night! You can actually see what you're doing around the scope and not give a crap that you can!!!!:lol:
Doug:thumbsup:
Yeah mate I like the 300mm on a crop sensor, there's a lot of nice objects to frame around this fov.
Although I must admit every time I'm tempted to set up the 300mm, I always give in a go prime on my scope instead.
Will have to give the 300mm a run soon I reckon.
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