Blue Fire Swan

[strongmanmike]

Painting by numbers? Crayon and butchers paper? Tie die time? Or is that a blue lava lamp? :P

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http://www.pbase.com/strongmanmike2002/image/114865756/original

:whistle:

Mike

[h0ughy]

when did you get that one? nice bit of purple in it, how did the stars remain "normal"? you have been a busy boy

[bloodhound31]

You are just loving that narrowband gear aren't you mate?

Great work Mike.

Baz.

[Gama]

Beautifull colors, nice work Mike. Everyone going narrow banding these days.

Theo

[Hagar]

Holy hell I almost followed through......... Come on Mike back to something life like. That almost scared the pants off me and that's not a pretty site.

[Alchemy]

ive seen a few narrowband images of this object, usually the outer is well differentiated from the core, im not an expert on narrowband so i cant immediately say why this isnt so..... its just alll the same (almost) color blue and purple, maybee it needs more Ha, a different color selection???

ive given you plenty of praise for your images in the past.... will hold on to that for just now, it needs something done with the colors for me to like it.

[Bassnut]

Nice detail there Mike, but why didnt you use the Hubble pallete?.

[jase]

Well its better than snotty green eh Mike? Electric blue kind of suits the scene. Its growing on me as its different. Still, I think this data wasn't the best if I recall. Hope you get some clear skies soon.

Cheers

[Paul Haese]

Nice looking with lots of detail. Is this a crop Mike?

[Bassnut]

Jase, Hubbles not that puky is it ? :P:D .......... mmm, then again :shrug:

[DavidU]

Nice one Mike ! Are you happy with your new filters? Do they aid contrast?

[strongmanmike]

...?...a repro :whistle: Abnormal imager = normal stars :P :screwy:



It's certainly different Bazza amd much more like painting as the narrow band king Fred has shown above :rolleyes:



Yes, took me a while to warm to it Theo but once you have the filters and try it it grows on ya. That small scope of yours you purchased at Dick Smith's would produce some purlers for sure, do you have narrow band filters?



Fred's rework looks a bit like what it sounds like you nearly did Doug :lol:



No worries Clive this ain't no World standard image :lol: just a play around.....as I I do :whistle: The thing about Narrow band imaging and PS is...almost anything goes, so don't take as gospel what you see in any narrow band image Clive.



I dunno, I've brought plenty of it up in the lasty week and I have grown quite fond of it..besides, it can't be too bad if you even occassionally resort to swallowing it :P

Yes I played with the variosu combo's I had put together - adding, averaging, blending and Ta da!

Oh and I love posting repro's just to annoy you Jase :rofl:no seriously, It's fun going back over old data...you should try it :thumbsup:



Yep! Of course it is Pauly, 35mm 11k chip + 1140mm FL = big field, Fred loves them :thumbsup:



:scared: burnt orange huh? hmmmmm?

Hubble pallet hey Fred???? ok so what exactly is that??.. or are we perhaps kidding ourselves (like I do when I compare my shots to Hubble :P) Seems this "hubble pallet" is a pretty loose term if ya ask me :rolleyes:. It's kindergarten painting that's what it is :thumbsup:(I find it pretty easy :lol:)

Oi, you have put halos around my stars...looks like one of your images now :whistle:



Cheers Dave, yes the new low reflection Astronomiks are excellent, the 11.8nm band pass is perfect IMO, not too narrow to need really long exposures and wide enough for some stars to be visible but still keep the energy tight - totally recomend them :thumbsup:

Mike

[Bassnut]

:D serves you right, and oi back sunshine, the halos were there to start with, but they were blue so your blue post buried them :lol:

[Bassnut]

Oh, and with round stars, seesh, its not hard :D

Any other way I can help you ? ;) :thumbsup:.

[strongmanmike]

Hmm that's strange Fred, I assume you are suggesting the stars in my image were not round..? I thought they were? In your reworked and re-blued version however they now look "worked on" and slightly egg shaped and less defined, did you do anything to them?....or maybe you're havin a lend of me..? :poke::nerd:

Mike

[strongmanmike]

Ah huh! but that's skillful processing :thumbsup:

[Bassnut]

Well, I was bein picky for fun Mike ;), I actually quite like the blue version, the stars are only slightly eggy on the original. And of course halos dont count if you cant see them :). Here is a croped close up pre and post star fix. I dont know how to do a mouse roll-over, but if you click between them here, you can see the difference.

[strongmanmike]

You are funny :)

While that degree of micro egging would be ignored by myself (as I did)...you are quite right I guess, but the problem with your method of fake star rounding is that you have altered the nebulosity as well...hmmm? sound familiar? :whistle:

Look forward to examining your blackheads at Parkes mate, we should be seated at the same table? :D The evening will have an Italian flavour too so look out! Oooooh Sooooole Miooooo!.... :clap:

Mike

[Bassnut]

As I said, the egging was very minor, and well, yes, the fix alters the nebulosity. I would also ignor such minor egging, but your sooo easy to wind up I couldnt resist :D.

Ive thought about this star fix and am of 2 minds, be interested to see what you think.

Eggy stars are just an obvious indication of a whole image being blured in the eggy direction, not just the stars, so youd think that the blended move fix would kind of deblur and tighten the neb too, where it should be. I understand of course this is artificial, not recommended, cheating et al. And it gets very ugly very quickly if over done, artifact city.

But, for tiny adjustments (perhaps less than what I did to yours), Im wondering if it actually improves the image slightly, tightening it up, especially blured transitions and edges in cloud structures.

Dont dismiss it out of hand Mike, Im just talking about one of many slight adjustments one makes to try and eek out the best of sometimes less than perfect capture conditions.

[strongmanmike]

Wha da ya mean????:mad2: I AM NOT WOUND UP OK?????:bashcomp: :eek:

Now, I am gunna go right through your latest images and trash'em (further) with lots (more) fake over-hard processing...then I'll post them to APOD :D...and they will probably get displayed.....:doh:

:rofl:

[Bassnut]

Ah Mike, your so extreme, stop drinking ;)

[strongmanmike]

Looking forward to having a drink with you (and others) on Sat night actually, the venue has a nice big BAR :D :drink:

Mike

[Bassnut]

Sure, looking forward to it. My wife is coming too, yours?

[renormalised]

Nice shot, Mike....and I actually like the colours:D:D

[strongmanmike]

Well thank ya Karl :thumbsup: This narrow band imaging is a bit of fun, some take it a bit too seriously though and poo hoo it, they get used to seeing trends and then compare everything to that...until the trend changes of course, then they will compare everything to that :rolleyes: which is perfectly ok but hey, there are no rules to what we do in this coloured art really :lol:

Mike

[multiweb]

Never seen it in blue. I reckon if you mix blue and green or red you'll get better contrast. The purple gets a bit lost within the blue shades. Great details in the neb though. :thumbsup: