Andrew Symonds sent home

[astroron]

Cricket Australia has sent Andrew Symonds packing:(
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/cricket/other_international/australia/8083144.stm

[mick pinner]

l am a fan of Andrew Symonds but enough is enough, when you play a team sport you adhere to team rules and expectations otherwise you forefeit your position.

[MrB]

I really like the guy, but what an idiot.
I think this will be the end of the road for him, sad.

[Ric]

I just heard about that on the late news.

I think he has done his dash this time, a great cricketer but a silly lad.

[Jen]

Who? lol :screwy::screwy: cricket eww :P
:whistle:

[astroron]

There are lots of kid's out there who would like half the chances he has been given, but as the old saying goes, some people never learn:(

[space oddity]

Since when do sportsmen have to behave like angels when the great unwashed can behave like buffoons? If our society is truly to have equality, then the local drunk down the pub has to behave in the same exemplary manner that P.C. has imposed on those in the public eye. Dumping him from the team for being himself is shooting the team in the foot. Keep on whacking them sixes up in to space Roy. Down with Political Correctness

[dpastern]

hahaha, good on him I say. Off to India he'll go, where he's appreciated and paid well. Can't see him hanging around Australia, and can't blame him.

As to Australia's cricketing woes, maybe the problems are with the selectors not doing their jobs? There's plenty of talent there, but they insist on playing established old hands that are clearly out of form and past their best.

And for the record, the ACB did SFA for Symonds when it came to racial remarks made against him by a certain team from minor asia. In fact, the ACB bent over backwards to get the offendor off the hook, so said team that he belonged to wouldn't pack up and go back home after having a dummy spit. I know what I'd have done - I'd have told them "on ya bike son, peddle faster". I'd be pretty dirty with the ACB if they'd screwed me over like what they did to Symonds.

Dave

[Gallifreyboy]

Sadly Andrew Symonds has a problem with impulse control and behaviour under the influence of alcohol. He is certainly not alone there but he has a position of privilege and reverence in our society and his wealth and fame are due to society's approval of his cricket skills. CA as his employer rightly expect his life skills to match his cricket skills. Without access to all the facts I respect CA's right to bring him into line. If there are no consequences for your actions in life, that is not a society with a good future. I wish him well and hope we have not seen the last of his rare talent.

[dugnsuz]

Dave?

[Octane]

Hallo, Dahv. Wannah bah suhm pehgs, Dahv? I got suhm pehgs, they belooong to youu.

Oh, you're myyy wiiiife nowww.

lol, Doug, you rule! :)

Regards,
Humayun

[matt]

That's disappointing.

I think he's a great player and I have no problems with a sportsman having a few drinks. The problem here is he made a commitment to himself and his teammates that he'd play by the rules...and had failed to keep it.

It's also pretty ordinary failing to turn up to training in a team sport.

He'll be missed.

[AstralTraveller]

For what it's worth Symonds was not racially vilified. Indian cricket fans I know have explained to me what was said. It was in Hindi and does sound a bit like 'monkey'. What was said was a huge insult which I won't repeat here and Symonds would be quite within his rights to be offended. However it wasn't racial.

[h0ughy]

he has had his chances and the drink is a problem. Like a moth to the flame.......... the glass is not there to protect him anymore

[dpastern]

Was this referring to me? I have no idea what you're on about.

Dave

[Octane]

Dave,

Do a search for Papa Lazarou on YouTube.

Regards,
Humayun

[styleman333]

Good riddance .......... To be honest how did he managed to stay in the Test team for so long ? An average of 40 with a highest score of 162 sounds decent i guess however if u take into consideration that he only scored 1462 test runs in 41 innings , then it shows thats other then a few good hefty scores , he had a very very dismal low scoring quota. Sure a great one day player but definetly not a Test cricket player . Now bring on some of the good kids who want to make a career out of cricket , they gave Phil Hughes a shot and the kid has excelled tremendously.......

Good riddance symonds , u was never worthy of wearing the baggy green

:confuse3:

[dpastern]

Checked it out, sorry, don't find it amusing at all. Silly more than amusing. And before you go calling me a party pooper, I have quite a good sense of humour.

Dave

[Kevnool]

I love my Beer, He loves his beer.
Cheers Kev.

[marki]

Agree with Kev. When you look at it the only ones who will benifit are those that no longer have to play against him and the indians doubly so. Oh and Symonds who will probably make a lot more money now. When you compare it to how SW used to carry on it's a bit of a storm in a tea cup.

Mark

[Octane]

Dave,

That's OK. The League of Gentlemen was very, very twisted. It's not everyone's cup of tea.

But, I'd implore you to watch a few other videos. Might change your mind. That sketch of Papa Lazarou is a small segment from a much larger skit that ran throughout three seasons of the show.

Sorry for the off-topic post.

Regards,
Humayun

[Enchilada]

'
Whatever ever happened to human compassion here, eh?
Prefer to kick the man in his probably lowest moment?
He has a serious addiction problem. Give him support not the usual carte blanch condemnation (as this thread implies), please! :mad2:

[dpastern]

I'll try (and find time). :)

Dave

[Robh]

I don't know anything much about Andrew Symonds.
However, I will say this about high-profile sportsman, whether it be in cricket, rugby league, golf ... These people are idolised by the young and are held up as role models to be emulated. As such they have a responsibility to set example. They are in a privileged position and most are adults who should know the difference between right and wrong.
The administration within these sports are responsible for setting minimal standards of behaviour. Much of the poor behaviour stems from weak club administration, perpetuation of drink culture and poor attitudes. Failure to modify behaviour is often through negligent inaction.
Nothing riles me more than the continual media apologies for bad behaviour, which are meant as some form of token atonement. Please!

Regards, Rob.

[dpastern]

Let's take a step back - if we apply the *same* rules to the NRL, they wouldn't have any players left at all...prolly the same for AFL.

Personally, don't be surprised if Andrew has had a gutful of the ACB (I know I'd be jack of those old tossers myself) and has deliberately done this so he can get his contract cut, so he can go to minor asia and make ten times as much and be *really* appreciated, without any contractual interference.

Good on him I say. Give the bird to establishment Andrew. Those up tight mongrels deserve it.

Dave

[Glenhuon]

He signed a contract to do a job, he did not keep his end of the bargain and follow the rules in that contract. He deserves to be sacked. End of story.
He's not special, he plays a game. Time he found a real job.

Bill

[iceman]

Cleaned up some inappropriate posts from this thread.

Please keep it clean and on-topic.

[Kevnool]

Close ithe thread Mike if i was mod i would of long b4 now.......CHEEERS kev.

[coldspace]

Agreed,

Politicians and the like get away with this all the time, including I dare say alot of people running the game as well.
Its a double standard in this world.
1 rule for them and 1 rule for us.
Andrew just has the balls to stand up to them.

Matt.

[Robh]

I don't think politicians nor the like are getting away with anything today. The media are so quick to smell out any unacceptable behaviour or divergence from normal protocols. Just witness the recent demise of Rudd's defense minister and the stood down CEO of the Cronulla Sharks.
All those in privileged and esteemed positions need to tune in to their responsibilities.

Regards, Rob.

[Glenhuon]

The pollies in the UK are getting a hiding too, and a about time. With priveledge comes responsibility, in equal measure.

Bill

[saturn c]

he was at the footy on the gold coast yesterday watching titans vs dragons and on the grog again.

[multiweb]

I believe he copped a fair bit while touring in India a couple of years ago. At the time "the team" didn't stick for him neither did the Cricket Board for that matter. He became increasingly disillusioned with the people he works for. He's only human, probably a good bloke and an excellent player. Just went down hill from there on. I find comments from Ponting mentionning "he's let the team down" a bit ironic when they played down all the abuse he had to go through. Didn't "the team" let him down back then? :confuse3:

[dpastern]

Ponting is an [insert choice of word, it's a common name for a Donkey]. If I'd been Symonds, I'd have been disillusioned with both the ACB and my team mates. Neither of them stuck up for him. Personally, I can do without "mates" like that.

As I said earlier, let's compare it to the likes of sex scandals in the NRL, glassings from well known AFL players, and so forth. They didn't get stood down with their contracts torn up. I see double standards from society here to be honest, and if there's one thing that I have an intense disliking of, it's double standards.

Dave

[dugnsuz]

Agreed Dave...speaking as an impartial observer when it comes to sport/cricket etc (migrant from Scotland - don't give a s@#t either way!!) - seems to me that Australian Cricket Officialdom has a very old colonial/puritanical attitude to the minor indiscretions of cricketers in comparison with the almost deviant shenanigans of the AFL/NRL steroidal freak fraternity!!

Bad behaviour by role models isn't cool for the kids regardless of whichever balls you choose to play with!
For me, Andrew Symonds seemed the most colorful/entertaining out of a bunch of un-entertaining skinny guys in white jumpers and green caps!
Media wise - seems like the most blatant form of double standard in a media culture which glorifies/demonizes/makes money from the drunken lariken behaviour of sportsmen.

At the end of the day though this means nothing and should probably be treated as such!
:earth:

[starlooker]

Symonds is a 33 year old man behaving like a a naughty child.

Let's stop making excuses for this little boy, he's had his chances.

[astroron]

Andrew Symonds signed a contract, if he cannot keep to the terms of the contract he pays the price.
No ifs or maybe's
If you sign a contract and you don't abide with it, the person who you signed the contract with has every right to terminate it.

Why people are going off that he is being hard done by baffles me.
Get over it, he is finished.
End Of Story.

[Enchilada]

Agreed.

[dpastern]

The sad thing is, after the Cronulla Sharks sexscapades, a good percentage of the people on the street blamed the girl and not the guys. I'm sorry, but it takes 2 to tango, and those guys should have had enough commensense to stay away. I like what Bruno Cullen is doing with the Broncos btw. As to the Broncos sexscapade last year, those buggers got away with it due to political and police interference. As Rodney Rude used to sing, "Queensland cops...".

Dave