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Davekyn
07-05-2009, 07:54 AM
I'm off to watch the New Star Trek Movie Today with the wife & kids. Speaking of KIDS...wow they are really taking over these days...LOL...just kidding. Go easy on me...I'm becomming an old bean as Chris calls me :)
I'll try to keep an open mind...I'm a hard core Treky...& whilst I have an amazing home thearter, this is one movie where the story line means more to me than special effects.
Maybe this "Reboot" New Look" "Revamp" or whatever they call it will inspire more people into Sci-Fi or even Star Trek itself.
I'll try to behave :D
iceman
07-05-2009, 08:06 AM
I'm going to try and see it with Jacob this weekend.
I like Star Trek but i'm not enough of a fanatic to get all upset over casting or "true to the original" or anything like that.
For me, it will be entertainment.
jjjnettie
07-05-2009, 08:07 AM
I'm going Saturday to see it.
Can't wait!!
Omaroo
07-05-2009, 08:08 AM
Morning, old bean! :thumbsup:
Enjoy. I'm off to see it this evening with Asterisk (Geoff) and Debbie - another member of MAS. Gold Pass seats are booked, and I'm raring to go. It'll certainly be interesting to see how Kirk, Spock, Sulu, et al landed the gig, so to speak. Can't wait.... :)
TrevorW
07-05-2009, 10:12 AM
Saw it last night
Quite good special effects
Although .....
lacad01
07-05-2009, 10:21 AM
Looking forward to seeing this one. I've enjoyed all the Trek movies thus far especially with the cast from Next Generation...:)
jjjnettie
07-05-2009, 10:55 AM
I hope I don't spoil this movie for myself, like I did with "Star Ship Troopers". Too busy picking the story line to bits when I should be just sitting back watching and enjoying the movie for what it is, not what it should be.
Darth Wader
07-05-2009, 01:25 PM
Still trying to convince the wife to go... none of my friends are interested! Maybe if I promise to go see a chick flick, she might agree...:lol:
toryglen-boy
07-05-2009, 01:32 PM
its really quite good, a bit disconnected in places, and sometimes its all about the eye candy, and the story can sometimes suffer for it, and Simon Pegg does a reasonable job of a Scottish accent
;)
Alchemy
07-05-2009, 04:54 PM
off to see it tommorrow, space ships, space, interstellar travel..... what more could you want , theres a definite lack of this kind of good entertainment these days
Davekyn
07-05-2009, 06:56 PM
Evening Chris :thumbsup:...Glad I kept an open mind! I think you'll get 100% Entertainment Mike. They really put a lot of thought into it. I loved how Bones was pretty much...well plain old doc from the the original as pretty much the rest of the main crew. I liked everything and thought it was rather well presented over all. Using the time line to set a new stage is probably the best way they could of done it.
Very well done & pleasantly surprised as a Treky.......Most certainly Blu-Ray material...Awesome "LFE" Base Levels!!! I could pretty much say the film pays homage to the original.:thumbsup:
dpastern
07-05-2009, 07:44 PM
I'll probably see it on the weekend. Looking forward to it, I grew up on Star Trek re-runs as a kid. Love TNG, better characters etc, have the limited box set of the DVDs ;-) First contact was the best Star Trek movie imho.
Dave
BLiTZWiNG
07-05-2009, 09:05 PM
@dpasten
I did the same pretty much, like TNG the most, and think First Contact was the best movie. I liked the approach of Enterprise but after Ch9 started messing with the air times (like they always do) I had to give up watching. I'm afraid I can't stay up till 1am these days.
Omaroo
07-05-2009, 09:30 PM
Well...just back from seeing it at a Gold Pass cinema.
In my 40-something years of being an avid Star Trek fan..... this was arguably the best two hours of Trek viewing pleasure I've had. It is the best-produced movie of all of them IMHO. Simply stunning - it will be hard to top this one as it's set the benchmark. To quote a review on the movie - "It's a transporter ride to sci-fi nirvana". J.J Abrams has outdone himself.
The characters were all brilliant, and were acted true to their later selves. The effects were mind-numbing, the sound was incredible and the story line brought the next 40 years into focus. Going to warp was explosive. The ship interior and crew compliment brought a new dimension to Starfleet.
Wow, wow, wow!
I'll be back..... or was that from something else... ? :P
One of the reviews: http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20090506/ENT_review_star_trek_090507/20090507?hub=Entertainment
jjjnettie
07-05-2009, 09:32 PM
Harrison Ford?;)
I must say....all the reviews I've seen and the comments I've heard have been overwhelmingly positive.
It's just great that they've done a good job with something we all hold dear and think of so fondly:) Especially given the cock-ups which others have made with other remakes of other subject matter in recent times.
I'm also pleased to see the current cast and director have signed on for several more films....:thumbsup:Seems like Star Trek is in good hands for a while.
Heck, I was going to give it a miss. But with that recommendation I'll have to go and see it now!
Rob.
asterisk
07-05-2009, 09:52 PM
I agree with Chris. The acting was excellent - look out for Eric Bana - he managed to ooze as much menace as he could with a script that wasn’t necessarily in his favor and a story more focused on Starfleet camaraderie than anything else.
The movie is a swift, modern, and extremely enjoyable revival of a science fiction favourite. The special effects are spectacular and well-complimented by the sound track.
Even non-Star Trek enthusiasts will enjoy the movie!
Omaroo
07-05-2009, 09:53 PM
Don't kill this film by waiting for it on DVD Rob. Go and see it at a cinema with really kick-a sound. You'll not regret it.
Shaun
07-05-2009, 10:02 PM
Yes a big fan of Ford who i think is one of the most talented actors to ever play a role
Good feedback so far.
I'm taking my mum out for mothers day on sat night to an expensive restaurant... under the pretense that we're going to see Star Trek, she rolled her eyes when I told her.... haha.
Maybe she will get a kick out of this movie afterall?
Omaroo
07-05-2009, 11:05 PM
Rotten Tomatoes reviews: http://au.rottentomatoes.com/m/star_trek_11/
:thumbsup:
h0ughy
07-05-2009, 11:10 PM
look forward to seeing this soon
Starkler
08-05-2009, 12:12 AM
94% positive reviews:eyepop:
Ok I'll have to see it now.
Davekyn
08-05-2009, 07:13 AM
Excellent point Matt. I was kind of hoping this new crew would continue to do more. I felt so strongly about it (your second paragraph), that I held back a little on my review, but really enjoyed it with as much pasion as Chris did. It really did turn out to be "Excellent"! All things considered.
Gargoyle_Steve
08-05-2009, 01:52 PM
Jeanette you will love it, we went last night and I was expecting it to be great- it surpassed my expectations in so many ways. I won't say anything at all to pre-empt your viewing pleasure of this other than this: that as a pretty hard core Trek fan I was so pleased that there were numerous little "things" everywhere that paid homage to the original series, the characters, other Trek movies, etc. Just all those nice little touches that leave you afterwards realising just how much attention they paid to writing the script, etc.
Wonderful stuff - will be buying this on BluRay instead of DVD when it comes out - worth the extra money, which almost no movies are in my opinion.
Starkler
08-05-2009, 03:27 PM
Just saw it today and although one has to suspend brain function on a few minor matters, the cinematography, directing, sets and cgi are first class.
Top shelf entertainment for both trekkies and non trekkies alike. :thumbsup:
Saw it this arv ... fabulous!!
Sounds good :thumbsup:even though i am not a trekkie fan at all :shrug::whistle:
Sounds like i could actually sit down and watch the whole show :thumbsup::thumbsup:
But i have to drive over two hours away to the nearest cinemas :doh:
So am i that keen to see a Star Trek movie :lol::lol: :rolleyes:
:D
Alchemy
08-05-2009, 06:45 PM
rollicking good fun, non stop action pretty much.
dont let the exact science bother you... just enjoy the spectacle, nice CGI and as some one who has seen all the star trek films they did go to some effort to continue the time lines.
wont drop any spoilers..... enjoy
Where is your nearest cinema?? Surely Swan Hill would have one??
Sounds like you need a babysitter for the night !!
Am ex Bendigo gal, with quite a few rels in Moulamein :)
See it when you can Jen :jump::jump:
:hi: Hi Liz we used to have cinemas here but they pulled it down and replaced it with Aldi :doh::shrug: (stupid mistake) Yeah Bendigo would have to be the closet cinema to us or Mildura, i think Echuca might have one too im not sure :) Yeah a baby sitter for the night would be good but if i managed to do that i would proberly go to the pub instead hahaha :lol:
Glenhuon
08-05-2009, 07:49 PM
Same problem here Jen, nearest cinema is in Perth, 4 1/2 hours away.
Will have to wait for the DVD.
But, just had the truck deliver my Trek collection today, so can console myself with some "oldies" :)
Bill
LOL Bill.
I got seasons 1 to 7 of TNG a couple of weeks ago, Seasons 1 - 7 of DS9 on the way.... Voyager next on the hit list ;)
jjjnettie
08-05-2009, 08:39 PM
I'm working my way through the original series atm and loving every episode.
astronut
08-05-2009, 08:49 PM
I completely agree with Chris!!
There's definitely a sequel in this story................or is it a prequel?:thumbsup:
:eyepop: 4 and a 1/2 hours away dam i thought i was bad :lol: you must be in the sticks too are you Bill ;):rofl:
bloodhound31
08-05-2009, 11:09 PM
Word for word wholeheartedly agree with everything you just said!!
Baz.
Jeanette,
I've never seen the original series offered on dvd! Where did you get them from?
Glenhuon
09-05-2009, 12:27 AM
Have a look on Ebay PCH, original series box sets are there at a reasonable price. Got them, and the Animated Series, from there :)
(Got all of the Trek series and movies, including most of the fan films. But then, I'm a Trekky from way back :lol:)
Bill
A tip PCH... stay away from anything on ebay listed as "Region Free" or advertised as being in both "NTSC and PAL formats", or "Chosen Collection"...... they're copies, and from what I've read... poor.
Anything region 4 is almost guaranteed to be genuine.
Chippy
09-05-2009, 04:21 AM
Saw the movie last night. Pretty good. I'm not a huge trekker movie buff, but I did like the series (especially Next Generation). I wouldn't rave about it, but certainly enjoyable and worth going to see on the big screen.
jjjnettie
09-05-2009, 07:39 AM
I bought my copies from the Life Line Book Fest.
They're all on video, and cost 33 cents per video, 2 - 3 episodes per vid.
They also had the complete collection of all the other series, next generation etc, but it was hundreds of videos, don't have room to store them. Pity.
dpastern
09-05-2009, 11:56 AM
Fleabay has long been doing that...
But the movie industry has itself to blame. DVD region coding should be made illegal imho, it is not in the best interest of the public. As an example, I'm trying to get a copy of Hellsing: Ultimate...it's only available in region 1 & 2...the distributor/manufacturer doesn't care. No wonder piracy is on the rise...
Dave
Davekyn
09-05-2009, 04:54 PM
I am part of a group that that gets Blu-Rays from Amazon with good results in Region A...which is really region free...These are not copies, they are released in the states like that. Either way...this is one area I am not hung up on...I'll take what I can get...as long as the picture is Pure HD with preferably HDMA audio on a 50GB BD...with lesser sound only if released in the original master copy. Each to their own I guess...I can think of a few other formats that would suffice, but hey why stir up a hornets nest. :)
Glenhuon
09-05-2009, 05:28 PM
I think you'll find anyone selling pirated copies on Ebay doesn't last long, they get booted off pretty quick. I usually stick to long term sellers, not much chance of getting a bootleg one that way.
I think there was a ruling a few years back about DVD Players being region free in Aus, but only a recommendation I think, not mandatory. It was ruled as an unfair practice to have locked to Region 4, so its not illegal to change it in Aus.
There are ways of changing the region code of your player to Region 0 (Region Free), it involves getting into the service side of the firmware, normally hidden from Joe Public, usually just by punching in a code on the remote. Have a look on Google. It does not overide the copy protection on the disk, so you are not breaking any laws in that area either.
Not much chance of getting that Region Coding on the actual disks removed though, far to lucrative a lurk for the producers.
Bill
Davekyn
09-05-2009, 05:34 PM
Sony PlayStation 3 can play region free from amazon :thumbsup:. However given the au dollar now...I only buy the region As off amazon for the tittles not available in AU such as a lot of Docos.
jjjnettie
09-05-2009, 05:54 PM
Just came back from the movies.
Wowee!!
Excellent. 8.5 out of 10.
The buddy I went with gave it 7.5, he deducted points because the womens uniforms weren't true to the original series.:whistle:
All my concerns were unfounded. They must have had some hard core fans helping with the script.
Looking forward to the next installment.
Davekyn
09-05-2009, 06:04 PM
LOL...I thought the uniforms were pretty close myself. I gave extra points alone for that.
jjjnettie
09-05-2009, 06:13 PM
He didn't think they were short enough.:lol:
Deeno
09-05-2009, 10:06 PM
Haven't seen much of the original series (grew up in country NSW) but, was an avid Next Generation viewer.
Really enjoyed the new movie. Where else to go with the Star Trek franchise except back to the beginning.
Even my none Trekie wife enjoyed it (Had much pleasure pointing out what tele show each actor had been in....?)
Great Trekie plot and twists even if it did over do the Star Trek bit in the end..........
All thumbs up.... Normally I'd wait for something I want to see to come out on DVD but, this is well worth experiencing on the big screen.
Refreshing effort and can't wait for the next episode....
Cheers
Deeno
Saw it yesterday. Jam-packed with action and sound to match. Loved the way they gradually blended in all the original characters from the series. Took me a little while to realise Eric Bana was the villain. :doh:
Thanks for the recommendation guys. :2thumbs:
Regards, Rob.
jjjnettie
09-05-2009, 11:56 PM
I could recognise Eric Bana, but which of the characters was Winona Ryder?
Gargoyle_Steve
10-05-2009, 12:52 AM
Spocks Mother !!!!!
My mate didn't recognise her either, strangely enough I recognised her immediately, though I did think she looked a little older than anything else I've seen her in. This is in fact the truth, as this IS a brand new movie after all!
Omaroo
10-05-2009, 07:30 AM
I could tell Winona anywhere by her eyes...... :)
Yes, she looks older, but makeup technology is pretty good at imparting that. :lol:
jjjnettie
10-05-2009, 11:09 AM
I like that excuse, think I'll use it from now on. ;)
Yessireee, two thumbs up from me!
Loved it.
As I mentioned in post #21, took my mum to see this, she enjoyed it too.
In our post-mortem mum said she was trying to work out where she had seen Nero's face before... all through the movie, then she clicked when the credits rolled...haha.
Both of us were trying to work out who Winona Ryders character was, mum first suggested Nero's wife, I said neh, then she suggested Spocks mum... ahhh ofcourse!... those black eyes!
A bit of a subdued surprise went around the cinema when Simon Pegg appeared too :)
Zachary Quinto's Spock.... Brilliant, Kirk & Bones...brilliant.. Sulu, Chekov, Ahura and Sarek.... meh.
Sorry, I was aiming at DVD's with my comments... have no experience with BD.
Region free DVD's are not genuine, atleast not with Star Trek.
Only Star Trek Original is available on BD... because it's the only one that can be show in HD... all the following series were shot on video, not film.
If they do get released on BD, they'll be no better than DVD quality.
Dunno about that, have seen a few sellers with 20k+ sales to their name selling pirated dvd's. Particularly these ones:
Well, blow me down ... hadnt realised Winona was even in it!!
I had seen quite a bit of publicity on it, and was all centred on Eric Bana, and the other main characters.
Spock character by Zachary quinto was excellent.
jjjnettie
10-05-2009, 02:21 PM
Bones even looked like Bones. Love that you find out how he got his name.
Glenhuon
10-05-2009, 07:45 PM
Hmmm!!!. Yes Simon I have the DS9 one of those you pictured. Always wondered if it was Kosher, thats why I did'nt buy any more.
Edit:
Just done a bit of checking since unpacking some of my stuff and they appear genuine, Paramount logo and stamp on the case. Certainly don't have the look of bootleg ones, artwork finish is too good. Paramount are not known for putting up with piracy for very long, so I'd say they were genuine after all. Unless you've heard to the contrary.
Bill
Check the disks for Asian characters, for info see here: Linkypoo (http://reviews.ebay.com/Star-Trek-TNG-quot-The-Chosen-Collection-quot-is-a-bad-deal_W0QQugidZ10000000010915258)
Even some of the Voyager ones are dodgy.
From memory, the difference is the genuines have a transparent-coloured plastic box while the copies are non-translucent.
Saw photo's of the difference on Amazon somewhere, but now can't find it.
Found this one tho of the packaging I'm talking about. Current run of DVD's are repackaged so look very different.
If a seller claims they're region 4 they're probably okay.
Davekyn
12-05-2009, 07:09 AM
Have to agree with you there Liz...Spock was played very well! Down Pat I'd have to say.
Glenhuon
12-05-2009, 11:12 AM
Looks like they are bootleg ones after all, no sign of asian characters etc, but they are tagged as region 1 and are actually region 0 (free).
My player was set up for anything short of vinyl :D, so it would'nt have been noticable when I bought them a couple of years back.
Cheers
Bill
TrevorW
13-05-2009, 10:41 AM
The character's nickname, "Bones", is a play on sawbones, an epithet (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epithet) for physicians.
:thumbsup:
dpastern
19-05-2009, 09:29 PM
Saw the new Star Trek movie tonight, it was OK, but not exceptional, other than in one area: characterisation. SFX weren't as good as I was expecting, and the story was very weak. Still, was good fun, and the new warping effect is pretty cool. I noticed a Star Wars line as well "punch it".
Dave
edit: I still rate it above all the other Star Trek movies, except for First Contact, which is still my favourite.
double edit: I wish that they'd honoured the original show by saying "to boldly go where no man has gone before" - that was the *spirit* of the original show, and to change that is an insult to Gene's original vision imho.
Omaroo
20-05-2009, 07:32 AM
Jeez - what does it take, honestly?
I saw it for the second time last night and it was still a knockout. The sheer magnitude of the ships interior structure and crew complement, and detail such as the cooling turbine areas put it in a special class for me. None of the other ST movies have been this well produced - with this level of attention. True, the story could have developed more, and I'm sure that this criticism has been taken on board by Abrams for the next one. I can't wait.
In my opinion, the effects were lightyears ahead of any previous ST movie - and most others. What exactly were you expecting?
OneOfOne
20-05-2009, 07:57 AM
We saw the movie on Saturday night with some friends. My wife was reluctant to go and would have preferred "The Boat that Rocked" but she said that she enjoyed it, and surprisingly she did not nod off once during the whole thing. I usually have to tell her at the end if the movie was any good and how it ended :)
She has heard of Kirk and Spock, but had to ask about the "holding the fingers apart thing..." so she is obviously not a fan. So I guess this has to be a big :thumbsup: from her.
My main criticism of the movie, and many movies today (even Kath & Kim do it) is....can't they afford a tripod to put the camera on? You don't have to shake the camera around to make you think that you are there....you obviously are not, and if you were, you brain and eyes would largely smooth out the movement. This filming without a tripod stuff is getting a bit ho humm to me now...time for them to lash out and buy a decent tripod for their cameras!:mad2:
Omaroo
20-05-2009, 08:01 AM
Yes Trevor - that's a J.J. Abrams signature technique. I think it was well used here, as it is designed to take you along for the run across the deck with the character to enhance the feel of adrenalin-rush action sequences. I don't think it was overly-used, and is better employed here than on something like Lost - but, each to their own I guess.
I also took someone that is unfamiliar with the last 40+ years of Star Trek and they consider themselves a convert now. Well.. until the next movie anyway! LOL
bloodhound31
20-05-2009, 10:14 AM
Saw it last night. Excellent movie. Loved it!
A little concerned over the black hole fantasy science, but we as astronomers are probably a small minority that would have a beef with it.
Would watch it again and buy it when it comes out on DVD.
Baz.
dpastern
20-05-2009, 11:57 AM
Chris - the SFX were good, but not outstanding. SFX is something I've followed for a good number of years. I'm not saying they were bad, I just expected more. Compare this movie to Revenge of the Sith and you'll know what I mean.
Barry - yes, the story was weak in many aspects. As I said to someone else, kids are leaving the sciences in droves, it's bad enough without 'bad science' adding to it. There's a reason why it's called science fiction - it has an element of science in it. And accurate science. Yes, I know it has the word fiction in it as well, which obviously allows some lateral movement in the accuracy of the science content, but I felt the movie went beyond it.
Still, it was a thoroughly enjoyable movie and I would go watch it again, and will be buying the DVD.
Dave
I saw Star Trek last night.
very mild spoilers (but nothing you won't work out in about 2 minutes)
good points:
- Spock (sylar from heroes)- Sylar does a good angry spock when the human side breaks through
- kirk, pretty good. cocky, adventurous. looked a bit like a young shatner
- eric bana's speceship and photon torpedoes look good
- checkov
- the first 20 minutes is quite good
- refreshingly, space IS silent
bad points:
- sometimes (often!) felt I was watching the star wars movies (something from all three of the original ones)
- weak premise
- time travel. I know, a staple of Star Trek but still...
mildly bad point:
- the (known) history of the Star Trek universe has been changed allowing for more movies in the franchise
- but nothing that cannot be changed in a later movie by more time travel (see bad points)
overall- 7/10 (heaps better than wolverine) :thumbsup:
TrevorW
20-05-2009, 07:48 PM
This was an very good movie
although I was not entirely happy with them changing TOS history
FX excellent, acting good, story line was a very typical revenge theme which has dominated many of the Star Trek movies
Could have been better
Rating 7/10
leinad
20-05-2009, 09:22 PM
I'll be honest, I found the whole movie... illogical.
Great action; but lacking in ST moral and more focused at today's youth.
dpastern
20-05-2009, 10:21 PM
Now that I think about it, yes, I agree. But then, Abrams is reknowned as an action director, and it was this sort of movie that was going to capture interest from viewers I suspect. Hollywood will always repackage ideas to make the $$$. One of the things I liked about "I am legend" is that it stuck to most of the original story, more so than the Omega man did. True, it wasn't 100% faithful to the book, but it was a good attempt. And it's not one of those BS hollywood 'feel happy' endings too. Life isn't a fairytale, and movies shouldn't always have fairytale endings imho.
Dave
starlooker
22-05-2009, 12:26 PM
The guy that played Spock was perfect for the role. Brilliant casting there.
gregbradley
22-05-2009, 05:36 PM
Great movie, superb cinemaphotography with interesting and very different camera shots and action scenes. Lots of light and brightness in the scenes rather than the cheaper to make dark dim shots that plague some movies when they are on a budget.
I agree effects were on a new level and acting was good as well. A bit of humour without the corny one-liners many US movies specialise in.
Also some interesting sets in how they set out the ship and parts looked very industrial which is very believable on a large ship but the computer
consoles and displays had more of a believable future look to them. Also some nice retro controls that looked like engine controls off a large ship. So nice mix of future, retro and industrial. I also thought it was smart to show the shuttles hills as looking very worn like they are used a lot and roughly - again very realistic.
The best Trek movie so far and better than Generations which I thought was the best before this one.
Greg.
Clarry
23-05-2009, 01:15 AM
Saw it last Sunday night with family & friends. Everyone loved it. The characters were spot on from looks to behavior. The storyline changed quite a bit from the original Star Trek pilot, but I actually preferred the new outcome.
As some others have stated, I like the different angles used in the cinematography. It really added to the realism of space.
I've been a Star Trek fan all my life (I mean fan, not fanatic. I don't go to conventions in full Kligon regalia) but there are a couple of things that I have always found annoying in the Star Trek universe. I hate it when the Enterprise & another starship face off to each other and they are only 500 meters apart. Surely if we can travel 300 light years in 6 hours and teleport people at the same time, we can develop offensive and defensive tactics that are effective from more than one kilometer. The other thing is that in these interstellar encounters, the two or more starships are always on the same plane. By this I mean they are all the same way up. Almost as if in space there is an up and a down. I would love to see a scene where two ships meet and one is at a totally different attitude to the other. This latest movie touched on this a bit when it showed the Enterprise at an unusual angle to a planet.
Anyway, loved the movie and will probably buy the DVD when it's available
iceman
24-05-2009, 02:22 PM
I took Jacob to see it today. Absolutely loved it! Brilliant movie.
Enjoyed every minute of it. Casting was great!
seeker372011
24-05-2009, 05:59 PM
just saw it
bad science...great movie
don't mourn the science, watch the movie :)
engages non trekies that's for sure-I have two in my family who gave it a thumbs up
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