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telecasterguru
18-04-2009, 03:07 PM
Went to Crago last night and the seeing was pretty good until the moon come out.
This is 30 minutes of Centuarus A with matching darks (yes darks). 200mm Newt Canon 1000D iso 400 DSS ED80 guided PHD. Processed in PS but didn't like the way it was heading so very little processing. I need a lot of help with PS.

Thanks
Frank

gregbradley
18-04-2009, 04:10 PM
Hi Frank,

Nice start.

I'd be using a much higher ISO than 400 though. I always used ISO1600 or 3200. Some say to use ISO800 as it gives better dynamic range although in this case you are imaging a dim object and your first target is capture enough signal to get a bright enough image. Photoshop can't sure inadequate signal so use a higher ISO and when you get a chance go for more exposure time.

So whack it up to ISO3200 and if you can go for an hour or more.

Is that a bit of coma occurring in your system or was it tracking errors?

First step there with autoguiding is accurate polar alignment and drift alignment is popular for that.

Greg.

telecasterguru
18-04-2009, 04:29 PM
Thanks for the advice Greg. There is a bit of coma in the scope as it is a f5 Newt. I would like to get an MPCC.
I will be out again tonight with a higher iso (weather permitting). I am used to imaging right in the centre of Sydney and I find if I push the iso higher than 400 it washes the whole image out and vignetting becomes a huge problem.
I spend a lot of time drift aligning to make sure it is right but I find that getting focus is the biggest issue.
Frank

peeb61
18-04-2009, 04:46 PM
Hi Frank,
I would be happy with that outcome especially from the 'burbs.'
Keep at it mate.

Paul

Peter Ward
18-04-2009, 06:08 PM
G'day Frank,

The scope looks like it needs some serious colimination to me due the fan shaped stars. No amount of post processing will fix that. A coma corrector is also a great accessory for Newtonians, which you might want to look at getting next.

Also take the time to really nail the focus, 5-10 minutes spent there can make a significant difference to the end result.

Stick with it!

Regards
Peter

gregbradley
18-04-2009, 06:44 PM
Hi Frank,

That makes sense. I used ISO3200 at a really dark site.

Definitely get the MPCC and hopefully that will be the end of the comet shaped stars.

Images Plus has a nice focus routine. You use it just like a CCD camera. You take short exposures, they are downloaded and displayed along with a graph plotting sharpness or brightness and that helps show the improvement or worsening of focus.

Or you can use a Stiletto focus aid (ads for this are on Astromart all the time) or use the live preview of your Canon (does it have live preview?).

I am pretty sure you can zoom in on a section of the live preview on a Canon DSLR and that helps. Its hard to tell if something is in focus on a small screen on the back of the camera.

Stilleto is probably the way to go if you don't want to be stuck with having to use a laptop.

Once you sort your coma and focus it'd be worth finding a nice dark site to go to on weekends. You'd have a ball and you whack the ISO up and get a brighter image in 1/3rd the time.

There's something very peaceful about a dark sky at a remote location.

Greg.

telecasterguru
18-04-2009, 08:55 PM
Peter and Greg,
Thanks again, I take on board all that you say.
Also, I have posted an image of M83 that I took last night as well. Every thing was identical with the Centaurus image although with the M83 image I'm sure that I nailed the focus. I think it came up pretty well.
Been outside tonight but almost blown off my feet so it's back to practicing processing!

Frank