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astroron
01-02-2009, 09:35 PM
It seems that the NGC/IC Project Web Site Run by Bob Erdmann and Harold Corwin is now closed down which is a shame as I have contributed to and used this site for a long time.
I hope it can be revived:) but it looks doubtful:(.

Enchilada
01-02-2009, 10:05 PM
Yeah you are right, according to Wolfgang Steinicke, which was written April 2008.

"It is sad to tell, that all my data are no longer presented at the NGC/IC Project website. This is due to a conflict with webmaster Bob Erdman, who has terminated his activities for the project last year. His "Historically Corrected NGC", first presented on the project website in April 2006, is a mere copy of my "Historic NGC" which is evident by an overwhelming amount of facts. The necessary acknowledgment is still missing."

See http://www.klima-luft.de/steinicke/ngcic/rev2000/Explan.htm

Basically it looks like the backbone of the site was just withdrawn. (and rumour says there maybe some alleged difficult legal issues as well.)

Pity it was a great resource on the Web, which seemingly took some significant effort to keep and maintain. It will be missed - but like everything - nothing lasts forever. RIP. :(

NOTE: I also believe this announcement and question was made in the somewhat quirky American Amastro group.

PeterM
01-02-2009, 10:13 PM
That is very sad indeed a wonderful site and resource. Hmmm, I wonder if they did work on the site voluntarily and / or if funding has run out that supported it, as seems to be the case on some other astro work i recently read about. Two favourites sayings from movies - Show Me The Money and Somethings Gotta Give.
PeterM

astroron
01-02-2009, 10:21 PM
My contribution to the site, was to point out some errors in some of the image data, which was concequently changed:)

ngcles
02-02-2009, 12:28 AM
Hi All,

Yep, it will be sorely missed. One of the best things on the site was Steve Gottlieb's observing notes thorugh 8, 13 and 17.5" 'scopes. Having observed with Steve before, I know him to be a very experienced, thorough and systematic observer with a great eye for detail who wrote concise but meaningful notes.

I'm not certain but, I believe Steve's is the second largest observing log in the world (about 6,000 entries) behind Richard Jakiel (about 10,000).

There has apparently been a lot of bad blood between Bob Erdmann and Wolfgang Steinicke for quite some time over exactly whose revised (corrected) NGC it is that appears on the site. I want no part in the debate, but I sure hope that somehow sanity will prevail and the site will be resurrected -- somehow.


Best,

Les D

Rosebud
12-07-2011, 08:33 PM
Hi,
Bob Erdmann's NGC/IC site is now online once more.
He says that he has spent the last 3 years fighting Colon Cancer.(Successfully it seems)

See www.ngcicproject.org

Cheers,
Wally

pgc hunter
12-07-2011, 11:20 PM
Love the NGC IC project, one of my favourite sites. Excellent resource to follow up your own observations with. However it has been active for a long time now.