SE Aus heatwave

[Smirnoff]

Significant period of heat predicted for SE AUs over the next week.

You think Perth is hot? Or Sydney?

Geez look at Melbourne!! :eek:

http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDV10450.shtml

Melbourne forecast

tuesday ........... 15 / 38 ........ clear
wednesday ...... 25 / 41 ........ clear
thursday .......... 26 / 40 ........ clear
friday .............. 24 / 40 ........ clear
saturday .......... 24 / 40 ........ clear
sunday ............ 23 / 31 ........ cloudy, thunderstorm
monday ........... 23 / 30 ........ cloudy, showers

I might have to make use of the forecast clear skies this new moon :P

Problem is, we've had next to no rain in the last 4 weeks, the state could pretty much combust.

[iceman]

It's just been terrible with the heat lately.. clear skies have been good at times but 40 degree days and 25 degree nights have been so uncomfortable.

[Bobj]

An ABC radio program was discussing "heat waves" and I remembered when I lived in WA., of Wyndham having world record; "In Wyndham, Australia, the temperature reached 90 degrees F for 333 days in 1946."
And this:

http://thelongestlistofthelongeststuffatth elongestdomainnameatlonglast.com/long486.html

That's hot.

[33South]

Classic IISAC January weather

[iceman]

lol I would've taken those temps if it meant clear skies at IISAC08 :)

[Ric]

We are now coming into the peak of the fire season as well. This heat will not be helping the matters.

Stay safe everyone.

[Enchilada]

God bless the firies... :thumbsup:

[mark3d]

a hot week including 3 days of 41 here in Adelaide

[leon]

Yep, and we are going to cope it as well, over the coming week, all days in the 40 plus range.

Leon

[Smirnoff]

Melbourne's CBD didnt get even remotely near the 38C max, but out here it's on 37 so far...

[leon]

39.5 AT 4.30 AS WE SPEAK.

Leon

[Alchemy]

hot hot hot, the fire situation here is a worry as im surrounded by bush, time will tell....... its bound to erupt somewhere, i saw the local cfa crews doing some training/practice at the local creek on the way home today, incredible job they do, i couldnt give them enough credit for the outstanding job they do at their own cost and time .

[Spanrz]

We had bad situation for a fire today.
Outside where I work (about 20 metres away) a huge amount of large pine trees caught fire today.

Don't know how, till I asked some people. They said the heat allowed the power lines to expand and sag, thus touching the pine trees.
Must of got a little bit of an earth, because a Fire did start, but it just went out about 3 minutes later.

And the pine tree's are on council property, probably governed by the electricity company involved.
2 engines rolled up, to see nothing, as the fire went out a few minutes before, but the hazard was still there, so they hung around, but no flare ups. (phew).

[Ric]

Pine tree are natures equivalent of the match. Being a soft wood as well as the type of resin within them give them a very low ignition point when compared to native trees.

Pine plantation usually turn out to be the highest intensity and nastiest of fires.

[Smirnoff]

39C in Adelaide at 10am after a low of 31C :eek:

[leon]

And we, Alice and I have an appointment in Melbourne today, no choice, and it going get well above 40 they tell us.

leon

[Smirnoff]

43 today for Geelong and Laverton, 44 forecast tomorrow!

[TrevorW]

Don't know what you lot are complaining about thats typical Perth weather

:rofl::rofl:

[MrB]

LOL Trev. Wanted to do some stirring but wimped out, now that you've got the ball rolling.....
We don't start threads 'till it hits 45 ;)

[Ric]

I know what you mean guys, I spent a few years living in Laverton north of Kalgoorlie, it got to a stage where anything below 26 degrees and the jumpers came out.

It's amazing how the body adapts.

[Enchilada]

Perhaps you should mention that to the British Press and "The Times".

I've just read the Sydney Morning Herald (SMH) article "Australia too hot for sport, says British newspaper" http://www.smh.com.au/news/sport/australia-too-hot-for-sport-says-uk-newspaper/2009/01/28/1232818525937.html

The Times says "Sooner or later you have to face up to the only sensible conclusion: Australia is no place to host big international sporting tournaments; except maybe the world kangaroo long-jump,"

The SMH says; "The newspaper even suggested that Australia's success in the international sports arena had slid in recent years because of the heat."

Some I think are just being awful. :rolleyes:

Note: the original article here is at; http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/leading_article/article5600849.ece

[MrB]

Haha, thats hilarious.
I guess it has nothing at all to do with losing a handfull of the worlds best players to retirement over the last few years.
Nah...... has to be the heat!

[Smirnoff]

Not exactly mate. Average Jan high in Perth is 31C. Perth's highest temp so far this summer is 41.8C. Adelaide's is 45.7, Melbourne's 43.4C. And Perth has had only 1 day above 40C while Adelaide and Melbourne are on their 3rd and 2nd respectively, and if the forecasts are right, atleast another 3-4 to come.

And Perth hasnt had a night above 25C this month, while Melbourne has had a 28.1C minimum and Adelaide 30.7C. It seems that every summer lately, these two cities have the last laugh when it comes to extreme summer temps.

[Ric]

In my view sport is a test against the elements as much as a test against your opponents.

When I have a round of Golf with my mates we are all playing against the same conditions of wind, rain, heat and cold. We all have the same conditions so the playing field is level.

[garyp]

Well it's been pleasant weather over here in NZ lately. Where I live anyway. The Melbourne weather is making news over here too, so it must be hot for you guys. The news tonight showed scenes of everyone cooling off at the beach.


Cheers

Gary:)

[TrevorW]

Friday 16/1/09 42.00c average January Temp >30C 20 days in Jan'09 exceeded 30C

Just suffice it to say we can take the heat in the West

:thumbsup::thumbsup:

[Smirnoff]

Here's my thermometer at about 3:30pm this afternoon: (sorry for the crap quality, my camera is a POS)
http://www.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/d9ffdc3ac4.jpg

and this is what 46 degrees looks like: (the blue thing on the fence is the thermometer):
http://www.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/a357b21f20.jpg

A proper weather station near my place recorded 45.6C at 4:03pm.

[gman]

You need to take in relative humidity and other factors to say which city is affected worse by tempretures

Having lived in both Perth, (Nedlands) and Melbourne, (Dandenong), a 35C. day in Perth is easier to take than one in Melbourne.
Visited Adelaide a few times but have never spent enough time their to become accustomed to the climate
The other factor to put into the equation is the "Freo Doctor".
Unfortunatley Melbourne dosent have one of these kicking in.

Today the Melbourne metro burbs recorded temps between 42 and 46C.
Most suburbs averaging 43 to 44C.

Roughly 100,000 homes around Melbourne were without any electricity starting from 4-5pm Wednesday arvo and there is still a huge no- still without power.

All I know is that it is hot, damn hot.
Mind you towns back towards Adelaide like Nhill etc recorded higher temps.

[erick]

You know, I'm now feeling less troubled about being away from Melbourne this week :P

[gman]

You know Eric, for the last couple of years the power has crashed in my area.
In times like that, we pack all the kids up and head down to Rye/Rosebud.
The mini carnival is on this time of year.

To some ones credit, the power is still on in Dandenong. (touch wood)

We also had somthing like 80+ train service cancellations today due to various factors.

Won't be long before all Victorians will move because we will be living in a 1st world country with 3rd world services.

The Premiers idea to fix this situation today was to tell people to stay at home.
Unbelivable

[Smirnoff]

^^ yep I hate John Brumby, hate him like hell. Everytime I see him or Lyn Kosky on TV, my blood pressure triples. He and his bud Bracksy had 10 years to fix these transportation issues, bloody 10 years. Ofcourse, they did absolutely nothing except using lip service to make it appear they are doing something.

I'll leave it here, because the stuff I could say about this mob will no doubt get me banned!!!!

[gman]

I'll make an update to the last figures.
Yesterday there was over 300 service cancellations to our train network.

The head of Connex, (rail service provider), blames the unions for 80% of this.

He said if a carriage does not have air con, the driver will not take the train out or if it has scratched windscreens.

Back in the old days when we had the red rattlers or the blue trains or even the silver trains that replaced the blues, you had windows that could be opened.
These new Siemens trains have no windows and no brakes.

I am not a unionist but I do not want to be in a carriage that would get upto 60-70C. with no aircon, no windows on an hour journey back from the city.
(Drivers have my interest at the fore)

Real issue is the Government that owns the trains has not invested in preventative maintenance.

[Alchemy]

hot still


the trains... all could be fixed with more money, trouble is we would have to be taxed more ... or put up the fare price. i think this goes for health education etc

[toryglen-boy]

i just couldnt take that, it would kill me.

I find Canberra far too hot this time of year, and quite unbearable, i couldnt handle that.

Warmest day record in Glasgow was around 29-30 degs, and people where dropping like fly's that said, people here in Canberra talk about "The cold Canberra winter" and it makes me laugh, Canberra never gets cold. ever.

I guess its what your used to, i am still used to mid 20's for summer days, and -10 daily in the winter ...


but again, i couldnt take that.

:)

[leon]

Yea, but the poms are wimps when it comes to heat, :lol: when it is 25 over there they all have a melt down. :whistle:and head for the water absolutely stuffed:lol:

leon :thumbsup:

[DJDD]

we had no power for 36 hours. things happen.

we slept outside in the backyard- nice and cool. and we preferred that to the air-con, anyway. might do it again tonight.

the only problem was that it was cloudy so could not use the telescope and then crawl into the tent...

[Paul Haese]

This is a funny thread.

Adelaide is now on its 6th day with 40 degrees with temp forecasts to Thursday (6 days away) of nothing less than 38 degrees.

Power is still out in 15 suburbs and we have been subjected to load sharing when we in fact have enough power for our States needs but are forced to share with the other States because we are in the National grid. What that means is our power is shut down for 40-1.5 hour at a time. Some people have not had power for over 12 hours, with ETSA even locking peoples power boards off.

So next time you guys else where are thinking it is bad, then spare a thought for us over here.

[toryglen-boy]

indeed.

just as well i am certainly not a pom then, isnt it

:thumbsup:

[DJDD]

does anyone remember the comic/movie, "Tank Girl"?
everything was run by the company "Water & Power".

yet again, sci fi, will get it right.


good thing i have been saving up my half-finished bottles of spring water. People at work laugh at me but I will have the last laugh!
:lol:

[leon]

indeed.

just as well i am certainly not a pom then, isnt it

:thumbsup:

Don't take it personally mate, :) just kidding around.

Leon :thumbsup:

[Alchemy]

the heat continues, yesterday in the shade on my deck it cracked 46.6 , even though melb should get under 40 it will go over here.

Melb is on the edge of the bay the slightest sea breeze drops a few degrees for a few K's inland ( only a few) so it can be decieving.


Adelaide....... apart from the fishing offshore why would anybody live there ?

[Kevnool]

Look on the bright side footy starts soon then winter will be apon us then we can all start heating our rooms up to stay confortable again.

In the middle of june everyone will be saying its to cold it just goes round and round.
Cheers Kev.

[pgc hunter]

^^^ winter nights are the ultimate for stargazing ;) Nothing beats a crisp clear june night under the Sco/Sag milkyway with a flask of Hot Chocolate and Coffee :D :D :D :D

Some weatherwatches are saying that Saturday could be very hot in Melbourne.

I havent had the scope out at all during this heat, despite clear skies, as seeing and transparency are usually shoddy in such conditions. A few nights ago however, transparecny was beautiful, but unfortunately I was too tired to go out.

Give me a crisp cool autumn night hunting galaxies any day :D :D

[fragchamp]

I think I am living on Venus... even the sky is like pea soup. I don't agree on winter being good for observing though. Even on clear nights it usually still looks a bit foggy.

[pgc hunter]

^^ Not here. Fog isn't an issue as much as cloud is, but from my own observations, winter is a winner when it comes to transparency.

[Hagar]

These sort of comments a the greatest pile of crap I have read in a long while. It is extremely easy to blame Government for every woe and heart ache we have but when it all boils down to it we would be the first to complain if the government of the time increased costs to each and everyone of us to cover the type of situations we are having at the moment. Public outcry would dwarf the outcry at the moment if we were each charged an extra hundred dollars a year to prevent these once in a hundred year events.

It is also easy for government to turn around and blame the corporate sector for failing to meet unrealistic targets during unusual events such as this. Corporate Australia will only invest money if it can see a return on expenditure and government were the first ?corporate entity to sell off all these services, rail, water, electricity etc because they couldn't afford to keep it and in most cases couldn't afford to maintain it.
Take a look at Electricity supply. Some of you may remeber Jeff selling off the state electricity commission within Victoria because it had grown into an entity which was bigger and more powerful than government. It also was the only state instrumentality which made an operating profit each and every year and propped up several other instrumentalities. It was the logical thing to sell as a profit could be expected from it's sale. In the process, the expansion and future planning for the states electricity supplies were forgotten. No corporate entity is going to feed money into future supply protection, ie building new stations until such time as a new station will show a profit on it's balance sheet.
Privatisation was good from a point of keeping costs down and government regulation has done this, but to future proof the state is the exact opposite.
No body complained about public transport until petrol prices and parking costs drove them onto the trains and trams. Support and use is the only way to justify upgrades to a very expensive and quite vast system which was sold in a very poor condition. At least the government of the day imposed some performance targets on the public transport network.

All these events are short lived. Will be forgotten about by most people in a short period and when it all boils down events such as this are unexpected and near impossible to fix or prevent without you and I paying very dearly for it.
Australias infrastructure is screwed and the blame must lie with all governments old and new. Compared to the rest of the world our public networks are a joke.
Who can we blame if blame must be apportioned. NO ONE BUT OURSELVES. We vote them in ,we wear there stuff ups.

[tornado33]

Whats amazing is Tasmania temperature records that have been broken (http://www.bom.gov.au/announcements/media_releases/tas/20090129.shtml)




Thats just astounding, how land so far south and surrounded by ocean , particularily places like Flinders Is. Airport.
Scott

[JethroB76]

Was bloody hot in Launceston; I think it was actually hotter here on Friday (39 degrees) and was again ~38 degrees on Saturday. Yet just north of Launceston at Low Head (~50km) it was only 25 degrees:shrug:

On the East coast, Scamander, Fingal and St Helens all recorded 41-42

[pgc hunter]

Scamander had a high of 42.2ºC on Friday, now officially the record highest temp in Tasmania.

Saturday looks ripe for another blast of heat for the southeast. If it's not cloudy, temps of 45C could occur in Melbourne and indeed across much of northern and eastrn Vic.