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Prickly
26-01-2009, 05:48 PM
Hi All,

Michael (Tilt) and I had a go at imaging the horsehead recently. We got everything working well (autoguider included) but were clouded out after 5 frames. Also managed to catch a satellite too.

Anyway - heres what we came up with

vixen NA140 refractor and UHCS filter
autoguided Qhy5 4x5min with ICNR and ISO800 (I think) though a C90
Camera: Unmodded 350D

Hopefully better luck with the clouds next time round.

Cheers
David

AlexN
26-01-2009, 06:08 PM
You really want to push for 10 min subs on the horse head..

On to the good things, for only 20 minutes data, thats rather good indeed! Guiding looks very nice and I must say, for an Achromat that refractor has produced a very nice image with no signs of chromatic aberration.

Well done, And best of luck next time you have clear skies!

peeb61
26-01-2009, 06:39 PM
Great start, starting to show some promising information.

Paul

Prickly
26-01-2009, 10:14 PM
Thanks Paul and Alex,

Yes, we were aiming for around an hours worth but unfortunately it didnt turn out that way. Maybe we can add some more frames at a later time. The refractor and the UHCS appear to be a good match with the filter cutting out most of the chromatic abberation very well.

Certainly happy overall for a first attempt. Just have to fix those clouds!

Cheers
David

atalas
27-01-2009, 02:46 PM
Great effort .

Ken
27-01-2009, 09:50 PM
Good effort with the limited imaging time. The refractor handled Alnetak well without ghosts or doughnuts.
Clear skies Ken

Hagar
27-01-2009, 11:03 PM
Nice image David. Could do with a bit more exposure but you have managed the colour well between the HH area and the Flame colour. Add some more exposure time and you will have a very nice image.
Well done.

Prickly
28-01-2009, 08:45 PM
Thanks Everyone,

Agree it really needs a bit more imaging. Maybe another opportunity this Friday if I can talk Michael into it.

(hopefully no clouds!)

Still waiting for those posts Ken !

Cheers
David

Tilt
29-01-2009, 04:52 PM
We can have another go at HH tomorrow night. Knock the ISO back to 400 and push the subs out to 10 mins (hope PHD plays nice :thumbsup:). I'm sure the heat will keep us on our toes with the noise levels, could really go a cooled CCD right now rather than a DSLR :lol:

Prickly
30-01-2009, 06:47 PM
Hi Michael,

Failing the cooled DSLR a cold beer! 7pm and 37 degrees outside tonight in Canberra.

Cheers
David

AlexN
30-01-2009, 07:01 PM
I vote keep the ISO at 800, and push to 10 minute subs.. yes noise will be an issue, but take darks, that will help alot... ICNR will take darks at the same temp as the light, which might make things better... ISO400 @ 10 mins will give roughly the same result (in signal) to ISO800 @ 5mins. You really want more signal, so I'd push for 10min ISO800 with ICNR or darks shot at nearly the same temperature, get as many as you can, and then after you stack them, layer in the 5x5min subs you have from this attempt.

Prickly
30-01-2009, 07:33 PM
Thanks Alex,

Worth a shot. And maybe stap a cold one to the 350D too!

Cheers
David

Tilt
02-02-2009, 07:13 PM
EQ6, Vixen NA140, Baader UHC-S filter, Canon 350D (unmodded).

6 x 10 mins @ ISO 800 (ICNR on), guided with PHD.

Stacked in DSS and levels in CS3.

Crazy amount of noise, plus not to mention there is probably additional data hiding in this image somewhere, any comments on how bring it to life would be great :thumbsup:

Michael

renormalised
02-02-2009, 07:26 PM
How's this....kill two birds with one stone. Setup a series of hollow tubes with small copper radiator fans in a block that you can attach next to the CCD chip and have one end connected to a plastic tube running into a refrigerated barrel of beer. Have the other end connected to a plastic tube with a mouthpiece you can suck out of or have a small pump attached to:D.

Keeps the camera cool whilst you enjoy a drop.....or 16!!!!!:P:D

renormalised
02-02-2009, 07:51 PM
Just did a bit of jiggery pokery on your pic....didn't do too much. Tried to get more out of it but ended up making the noise worse (don't have the plugins, yet, for mac). However, did this....changed levels a bit (black to 31, gamma to 0.65, white at 255) and ran an unsharped mask over it (radius = 20.7, amount = 0.67 and threshold of 53). Also did some pokery on the curves. Hope you like it:)

Prickly
04-02-2009, 11:27 PM
Hi again,

Here is some more processing on our image the other night.

I like the dual function idea of the beer cooled DSLR. It would be a wonderful invention and help on those nights when you cant get things working to plan.

Thanks for all the comments. I think agree the image needs to be a little darker - it does add to the appeal of the contrast of the horsehead.

Here it is with some more tweaking.

Cheers,
David

RB
05-02-2009, 04:03 PM
David that's a very fine effort indeed and at only 20 mins, you've done well.
What you need, as you know, is much more exposure, more subs.

I can't remember how many times I've setup all the gear only to be clouded out after only a few frames.

Unfortunately such is the nature of our hobby.

:(

Tilt
05-02-2009, 04:56 PM
Sorry for the confusion there Andrew, that particular horsehead that David posted yesterday is 6 x 10mins @ ISO800. The old 350D sorely needs to be sent to Eric for some modding :)

But I agree anyway, more subs. Another few hours of lights would have been good.

Michael