Another reprieve for Windows XP

[astroron]

windows gets another few months:)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7795302.stm

[h0ughy]

thats to keep the netbook sales for the manufacturers alive

[Ric]

I think I've been asleep for a while, when did Windows 7 suddenly appear?:shrug:

I've only just got the hang of Vista.:doh:

[Jen]

:lol::lol: im with you Ric :lol: but i havnt even used vista :doh:

[Ric]

Maybe it's a speeded up version of Windows 3.1 :rofl:

[Jen]

:lol::lol::lol:

[Ian Robinson]

If only it was true .... Win 3.11 worked !!!

[Kevnool]

Hopeing the great product gets a further reprieve cause it just dont miss a beat.....Cheers Kev.

[g__day]

Given Vista has so many apparent troubles I am hardly surprised.

[Hagar]

Oh how people forget. 3.11 had more holes in it than a lace table cloth.

XP needs a rebuild every year or so to keep it working reasonably well.

Vista is very much the same.

Like everything. Unless serviced properly and maintained by some one who knows what they are doing and locked up to keep fools out, everything will stop working sooner or later.
Seems to me there is a lot who love to comment who know very little.

[Omaroo]

Right there with you Doug. I have no troubles with Vista at all - on my laptop, 32-bit desktop and my 64-bit quad-core desktop. None! Don't know what all the fuss is about. A tiny problem on your own machines and it's suddenly the worst OS ever. Come on guys... :lol:

XP is a dog that I was glad to get rid of. Networking and viral woes galore. Unstable. Couldn't talk to its own hardware layer without you prompting it. Sheesh!

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[Ian Robinson]

:rolleyes:

Win 98 wasn't bad either.

The more stuff MS put in to their latest OSs the worse they get.

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[Ric]

Hi Doug & Chris, don't get me wrong I'm just having a bit of a laugh.

I use both XP and Vista and with a bit of tweaking I'm happy with both.

Cheers guys.

[Hagar]

The only thing 98 had going for it was an open USB buffer. Appart from that it had abot 100 times the the amount of patches Vista has and in a world where security is or has become so nessesary it just wouldn't cut it in the computer world of today.
You have to remember that operating systems arenot designed for our home computers the are largely written to handle the network systems of companies and are built around the premise that they will be maintained by system specialists who know what they are doing and not fiddled with by questionable home know it all who in most cases know very little.

Vista was probably the first Operating system written for home computers and not primarilly designed for industry. The increased security and system lock down was done for that reason.

I don't think Chris is making it personal I think he is only stating the sentiments you seem to imply or impart on everything that anyone posts about a new purchase or new item. Try to be a bit more positive.

[h0ughy]

righto guys keep this on topic or i will lock the thread. Ian if you have a constructive positive uplifting comment on the topic then post it, otherwise don't antagonise the natives!!! omaroo, please consider others that may not be and technically adapted and informed as yourself!

First, and final warning!!

Now for my posting reply......

Personally i think 3.11 was good for the day, just expect it to lock up, 98 was a small step forward and I love the blue screen of death, NT was a nightmare, 2000 broke new ground but delivered nothing but a solid introduction to service pack updates, XP was a breath of fresh air, until the after dinner mint wore off, then you knew exactly what is was you were dealing with, as for Vista - so far the only real thing that is ticking me off are the security settings.

So guys VI rules - the HP apollo domain LOL, long live Linux and all those others that promise the earth but deliver misery to those poor techies out there trying to keep the wheels turning. And in keeping with the real post topic - thanks for telling us the product life extension Ron!

[JethroB76]

Win 98 was crud.
Everyone seems to like Vista bashing; personally I have had very few issues.

[Omaroo]

LOL! Thanks H0ughy :) Gotta be pulled into line sometimes..... :thumbsup:

What most don't understand is that there is SUCH a plethora of hardware components out there, which are stacked into cabinets in a myriad of ways, and the poor operating system is expected to hold it all together for you and not make a mistake. This "plethora" has increased exponentially over the past decade. Pretty damn difficult job, no? OS's aren't "getting worse", they're getting FAR better. Vista is such a leap forward over XP it's ridiculous. If you're having a personal problem with its security - turn it down. As Doug very rightly says, Vista is the first personal desktop OS that isn't a butchered business one squished into a box for Joe Average. Setting the security standards must have been a pretty difficult decision for MS bods, who obviously knew that there would be a backlash against it from users of previous systems. I personally think that it's too tight - but then again I'm an IT professional and should know what is good for me and what is not. Mr and Mrs Average don't, so Vista over-protects them by default - and so it should.

Yes, it needs room to move in order to work. It does so much more - so fellas - give it the room it needs and it'll fly. Until you have this room, it's probably advisable to stay with XP, otherwise you'll be frustrated. Don't blame the OS - blame your old hardware. Until you have need to update, don't! Simple. The thing that MS didn't get right this time was the time it's taking people to graduate to their next level of hardware.

I opened a box in my office at IBM Sydney in 1983 when I was working there, that had a big label on the side saying "IBM Personal Computer". It was the first "PC" to ever land in Australia. Being mainframe-trained, we engineers said to ourselves"I'll never catch on", laughing at the little beige box. How wrong we were. How far has both hardware and software architecture come since then? PLENTY!

All that from me.... and I'm a UNIX guy! LOL!

[Omaroo]

That's the spirit Ric! A "bit of fiddling" is all it takes to make what is ostensibly a standard operating system run on your own hardware to your own taste. More of you need to get out there and show people that it really isn't hard Ric! :)

[Starkler]

Only last year did I let go of win2k after installing it onto successive new machines. I'll stick with xp now for as long as I can.

[Octane]

Woohoo! Go team UNIX! Solaris (http://www.sun.com/software/solaris/10/index.jsp) sysadmin, myself. :)

Regards,
Humayun

[Tandum]

I run linux on my clients servers, unless they need a terminal server, but I use windows on the desktops. I see XP being available till 2010 on Microsoft's lifecycle page and customers are asking for laptops with windows XP installed instead of vista and that shows what the public think of it.

I should add that almost all Vista problems I attend to require a reinstall of the system and most Vista machines I look at have problems which are not serious enough for the user to complain about or pay to fix.

Service pack 2 for vista is nearly here but I believe there's not a chance it will fix the problems in the software or increase public acceptance of it. Windows 7 is fast and stable at the moment but it's not due till August.

I myself have have multiple problems with Vista recently without any detectable hardware faults and have moved back to XP which I find a lot more clunkier but it works 100% of the time on the same hardware. I guess the general public has the same opinion considering XP still has an 80% market share :)