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Craig.a.c
19-12-2008, 05:27 AM
I have been working in the security industry for 4 years now and have decided its time to look for a new job. I didn't mind doing security work when I started. Working nights, I enjoyed that when I started. After 4 years of being screwed around by the boss, working an average of 32-40 hours a week and being kept as casual, no 12 hour turn around in between shifts etc its time to move on. Most of the time I start work at 2000 and finish at 0530 and then sleep all day, get up and start all over again. Even on my days off I can't go to bed untill after 0400, I can't remember the last time I went to bed before midnight. My body clock is seriously screwed at the moment.:mad2:
So now I have decided to try and get into an apprenticeship and learn a trade and gain usefull skills. Not really fussed as to what kind of apprenticeship, just as long as I can start using my brain again. No offence to all the other security guards out there, but it really is a job for those that don't want a real job and like to act all tough as "bouncers"
Well thats my rant for they day, had to get it out of the system.
Good luck with the career change Craig.
My choice would have to carpentry for an apprenticeship, working with your hands and out in the fresh air but maybe a bit too fresh in winter LOL.
Also at the end of the day you can sit back and look at your handy work and say "I built that".
Cheers
TrevorW
19-12-2008, 08:30 AM
PLumbing and gasfitting big $$$
PS: for nearly 40 years I've worked with people who think they are better than me and me with an IQ the size of a planet. Working is not about being honest, diligent, dedicated, reliable, it's about making the loudest noise sucking up to the boss being Mr Nice Guy the quite achievers do not always get ahead especially as I found out in the PS.
I just hoping in the next 10 years or less to win Lotto so I can tell one of them where they can stick their job.
Glenhuon
19-12-2008, 09:00 AM
Good luck Craig. Getting your hands dirty isn't for everyone, but I found a great sense of satisfaction with making something with my own hands. That training and experience has advantages outside work too, gives you the mindset to visualise, plan and construct things for yourself. Saved me heaps over the years.
Cheers
Bill
xelasnave
19-12-2008, 10:10 AM
I feel like changing species
alex
xelasnave..... no, I mean.....xelashave!
You look like a new species without the beard!
What a change!
xelasnave
19-12-2008, 10:53 AM
:lol::lol::lol:
if only it were that easy
alex
xelasnave
19-12-2008, 11:03 AM
Craig I have been thinking about your situation... for mine and I have had some jobs that actually required full on thinking... just get a hobby that you can slip off to when things are dull at work... may I suggest the study of gravity ...it is open ended and you need to read heaps simply to find out no one really knows zip.
alex
Unfortunately I have encountered this as well from a Director who did not like me (1 promotion in 10 years). That person has now left and the new Director is very keen for me to attend courses and want's me to be more involved as well.
Things are looking up after 10 years:thumbsup:
Ian Robinson
19-12-2008, 11:56 AM
All the best with the career change - been there done that myself , my changes were forced on me by companies "restructuring" and my getting retrenched.
Started as a chemist , retrenched by BHP. Decided no future in chemistry became a chemical engineer.
The after another stint at BHP then Onesteel , the rug was pulled out from under me again.
Retrained as a school teacher - hated it.
Retrained as a computer engineer - hate writing code (despite being very good at it) not interested in starting over again as a jr computer engineer so have decided not to do the final project for now - so completion of the degree is on hold.
I was working at a senior / princ engineer level at Onesteel , so have decided to consolidate , doing Masters of Engineering Management (part time) and looking for a job (but pretty jacked off with being always the bridesmaid and never getting the offers - too old , too fat , and struck plenty of unscrupulous companies who are more than willing to try the raw prawn treatment (offering jr rates for roles at snr and lead and princ engineer level - I've even walked out of a few interviews - small companies are the worse when it comes to trying it on).
It's not easy changing careers , or even restarting a career if retrenched.
Takes gutz to stick at it and Centrelink and those stupid Jobnetwork providers are no help wse if you need to register as unemployed which I guess you will if you are leaving the casual job , may be a long wait before you get any money too unless you can get the boss to sack you.
Have you considered applying for the Police Academy ?
Welders , Boiler Makers , and Sparkies are in huge demand , you can attract serious money up north and out west if you've one of these trades.
Building trades have a lot of down time and are very hit and miss workwize (got brothers in law who are brickies and carpenters who seem to spend a lot of time doing nothing and not getting paid).
Hagar
19-12-2008, 12:06 PM
Good luck with the career change. It can make a world of diference to be put in a situation which requires you to learn again. We all have highs and lows in our careers but it is refreshing to start something new. I've had 6 varying career paths in 36 years and fortunately they have all been with the same very supportive company.
Good luck for the future.
Ian Robinson
19-12-2008, 12:25 PM
My one up manager was a SOB too , passed me over for two promotions which I was more than deserving of because he simply didn't like me (one of my colleagues , who was real (edited), engaged in a campaign of character assassination too) and because I wasn't prepared to suck up to him like some of my colleagues , who were all promoted at the same time , my two superintendents both believed I deserved the promotions but he refused. Yes I considered quiting or demanding a transfer to another department .
But , I stuck it out , he was close to retirement age , and I was hoping when he retired I'd have a new one up manager who recognised my contributions and efforts in the only way that really counts - more $ and promotions. But Onesteel decided to close the plant .
He also shafted me when it came to selecting who was staying on and who wasn't when the steelworks closed , refused to support me. Naturally his mates got stacks of support or had new jobs found for them with other companies.
Being excellent at your job is no guarantee that you will go places.
I left Onesteel with a very nasty taste in my mouth.
Craig.a.c
19-12-2008, 01:38 PM
I haven't really used my brain for the entire time I have been working in security, studying gravity might be a bit much to start on I think. Then again, jump in the deep end, if you can swim its all good.
Craig.a.c
19-12-2008, 01:41 PM
[quote=Ian Robinson;391523]
may be a long wait before you get any money too unless you can get the boss to sack you.
Have you considered applying for the Police Academy ?
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I have tried to get the sack many times, told the boss what I think of him but it doesn't work because he wont train someone else up to do my job:mad2:.
I thought about joining the police force but I wouldn't trust my self with a glock pistol:D.
Why not give thought to either working for yourself in some trade, or perhaps you have some special ability.
Or failing that, it's well known you'll never get rich working for the man, so why not take a course and start a business.
Failing that, take a course in Share Trading, Options or Forex and see if you can generate your own potentially unlimited income.
Any or all of these options clearly come with no guarantees of success, - that has to be left up to the individual. But there are plenty of good honest ways to be successful in your own business.
Read Robert Kiyosaki's Rich Man Poor Man for some guidance, but there are many good books available.
Most people will never move outside their comfort zones. Unfortunately (for them), that is where all the good stuff starts imho.
All the best.
Cheers :thumbsup:
Ian Robinson
19-12-2008, 03:08 PM
[quote=Craig.a.c;391563][quote=Ian Robinson;391523]
may be a long wait before you get any money too unless you can get the boss to sack you.
Have you considered applying for the Police Academy ?
My baby sister is in a similar situation , she's a casual nurse and has not had a shift offered her for over 6 months , not been sacked or made redundant either - so she's not working or being paid .
She's not one of the in crowd in that nursing home either so she's being shafted.
Her back is bad after many years of working with old people in nursing homes (having to lift them out of baths , chairs , beds etc), she should start proceedings to get a big compo pay out .... plenty of people do for less deserving physical work injuries.
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