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xelasnave
18-11-2008, 10:33 PM
I thought I heard today that BP is closing their solar panel plant in Australia and will move opperations off shore..200 workers will go...now one would think that the government would present an insentive to BP to stay on...subsidise the car induatry..bail out the banks..whatever...but lets stick to simply taxing the GW problem out of existence... We already have a guy who listed on the New York exchange become a billionaire..and guess where he did all his research... if you have not heard I wont tell you it will only depress you...
Mr Rudd Mr Midnight Oil get real ... Its ok to mine yellow cake in WA as at today but lets just pretend that the solar panel industry is better off shore...
alex
xelasnave
18-11-2008, 10:36 PM
Bail out the stupid folk who thought child care was a get rich fast business is OK ... what am I missing... I find it hard to believe the banks lent so much...and the government has had to fund something until they can off sell the mess...
alex
Hi Alex, I find it amazing that governments constantly preach about their green credentials and then do nothing to back it up when required.
It would seem that anything that falls under alternate or sustanable energy just isn't important enough. I would love solar on my house but will have to pay full price because our combined incomes exceed the subsidy limit by $4000
By the same token they can give away money to a car company to build a hybrid that no one will buy.
If you could harness all that hot air from Parliament house, half of the energy problems would be solved in my opinion.
wraithe
19-11-2008, 12:31 AM
I better not get started...
What I would like to know is how come we got gov and polli sucker scientists saying we have global warming when temps have stagnated and havent even reached the averages of the 1930's..??
or another is how a tree can be used as a co2 sink yet when that tree gets chopped and processed, in the break down cycle it releases all the co2 it absorbed in its life cycle???
and lastly, how can a greenie say harvesting trees ruins the environment but digging a huge hole or wiping out a massive mountain is ok???Since when does iron ore regrow in a human lifetime or even within a millenium and is oil replacable...???
Trees do regrow, but then what would i know, i am a country hick or is that a stickered, V8 ute driving redneck...:P:rofl:
leinad
19-11-2008, 01:57 AM
Heres the Greens article Alex.
http://greens.org.au/node/3818
Arnie gets the good stuff..
http://www.canberratimes.com.au/news/local/news/general/australian-shines-in-solar-explosion/1343260.aspx
wraithe
19-11-2008, 02:05 AM
Our gov has always shafted any decent ideas...
Look at solar australia, when they tried to build those solar thermal towers...dont know if there still trying but i seem to remember some sth african group trying to get them over there...
xelasnave
19-11-2008, 07:39 AM
Thank you for the links Leinad and thank you Wraithe for your input.
I know us mere mortals have no idea what is best for us but for mine I simply think that if the Government let BP go overseas it is unfortunate in the extreme.
I believe that the global warming lobby is controlled and guided by vested interests who present the problem as dire and then step forward to offer a new clean energy... not not wind power..too noisey..no not hydro power to wet.. and of course solar power is no good because of the base load problem and certain vested interests have already worked out that to produce a solar panel we leave a huge carbon foot print...and so what are we left with... of course the only sensible clean safe option...nueclear power... and the fools that make up the programable masses are driven and guided by an add campainge to point out the perils of our wasteful ways which leads us to the only conclusion they know we must draw... NP... yes so safe so dependable so laden with funds to guide public opinion it does.
I find it ironic and discusting that on the day we find yellow cake can be mined in WA that the news that BP and solar opportunity and jobs leave this country.
Does anyone remember the adds where a lady siad to be a marine biologist basically says if we dont go for NP the barrier reef will be lost... what emotive manipulative crap... but how sinister of the NP lobby... no Australian wants to see the barrier reef go so what can you say if you are an Aussie...go NP of course... dam discusting that they play on the stupidity and pressure of time most folk have in their life to slip in such a subtle and misleading piece of NP nest feathering.
Now I dont know who is to blame if the planet is heating up ... but if it is us I think it is so hidiously stupid to think we can change the greedy ways of humans...yet governemnts grab at the news to bring in new taxes...does anyone think a tax can solve the problem... tax is a system where the masses pay whilst those at the top evade at worst or avoid at best... tax wont do zip... that approach simply educates us to believe that we can use as much carbon as we want to but we just have to pay...
and when to head off the horrors of GW Sydney got a necessary desalinator did anyone think about funding for solar...
I heard that the desalinator is turned off..cause it is not needed and that it costs one million a day to have the staff turn it off... I dont know I must find out..that could be a lie but somehow I think it may be the way of it...so in the interests of staving off the problems of GW we get a desalinator... but to save 200 jobs and an industry we could profit from no one will step forward from the government and offer a package to BP...
Yet we find funding to put carbon under ground... how viable will that be one wonders... how much carbon would be kept out of the system if the funding for carbon burying went to save BP and the solar opportunities we are about to lose.
AND the timing of the announcement ...in wet weather...just shows how sneaky these folk are.
alex
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