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netwolf
09-09-2008, 10:50 PM
Heads up guys just tuned into this doco on SBS, its about the big bang experiment.

netwolf
09-09-2008, 11:12 PM
Ok so why do Scientist belive that coliding two particles would recreate the big bang event? If they collide two protons together that would mean this would create a post big bang event. As no matter presumably existed before the big bang. Can someone explain this?

RB
10-09-2008, 10:22 AM
Good point Fahim, that's what I think too.


:shrug:

vash
10-09-2008, 10:34 AM
I started watching it but I've been working heaps and some how slept through everything, I remember seeing the Hubble scope drift across the screen, then I drifted off myself.

I did see this on Bad Astronomy that made me laugh
http://hasthelargehadroncolliderdestroyedt heworldyet.com (http://hasthelargehadroncolliderdestroyedt heworldyet.com/)

netwolf
10-09-2008, 11:22 AM
I think i understand a little bit better now after watching the rest of it and searching around the net. The Idea is to find the missing link to explain why particles slow and clump together to form mass. Otherwise all matter would simply move at the speed of light and not form any mass. But for some reason mass gases, stars, planets etc are formed. The have a theory and they are trying to either prove it or dismiss it. The are looking for the foundation particle. By bombarding two particles they can break down the two into protons into there building blocks, some of which only exist for a very small period of time. By studying these particles, there trajectory etc they can better understand them. So far the various accelerators built have not manged to provide enough energy to the collision to produce the fundemental particle (if it exists).


The problem is that the documentry perhaps incorrectly assumes that this experiment is about understanding the big bang event. Or perhaps I misunderstood what they were trying to explain. But really its about understanding the post big bang universe and why it has formed the way it has. I was intrigued by one of Scientist hoping that they dont find proof for the higgs model so that it might create a new revolution in Science, to rethink what we know.

Regards
Fahim

avandonk
11-09-2008, 07:32 AM
Fahim the 'standard model' of subatomic particle theory explains nearly everything we observe experimentally. There is a slight problem as it does not account for gravitational attraction due to mass or mass. The postulated Higgs Boson if detected will account for this. The 14 Tev LHC theoretically should produce Higgs Bosons. If it does not it is back to the drawing board. Either way it should be very interesting.

Bert

OneOfOne
11-09-2008, 08:01 AM
I was heading off to the ASV meeting (Fred Watson guest speaker, excellent talk BTW, but I digress) and checked the guide for any "worthwhile shows" to record. I saw the show, but there was no further description, so I didn't bother to record it :( Had I have known the content, I would have :mad2: