lense

[Kal]

It seems as though the last ten times I have read the word lens on the internet (various astronomy forums) it has been incorrectly spelt lense. Is it just me or are alot of people having difficulty spelling this four letter word?

[Kal]

actually, my post was the 500th post on IIS alone with the word in it

research (http://www.iceinspace.com.au/forum/search.php?searchid=824776)

[Ian Robinson]

lense may be the correct spelling in some languages.

[AlexN]

Wow.. you sound like my grade 5 teacher. :P

Does it really matter? I take it you understood what they were getting at?

[Blue Skies]

I don't worry so much about the incorrect spelling, its the incorrect use of the word that gets my goat most of the time. :rolleyes:

[Kal]

Tho closest for the other languages is 'linse' in Norwegian, or 'lente' in Portugese. Other common translations are objectif/objectiv, or lens!

I'm not 100% sure of the spelling of 镜头 :whistle:

[Kal]

It matters because it annoyed me enough to make a post! :P

[AlexN]

Sounds fair enough to me :D

[PCH]

Jeepers Andrew, don't look too closely at most of the posts on IIS if bad spelling upsets you - your ticker will give up the ghost :D

Cheers,

[dugnsuz]

This has been picked over before...
http://www.iceinspace.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=32333&highlight=lens+lense

Cheers
Doug

[OneOfOne]

Don't worry about it too much....

People that don't understand the difference between "then" and "than" are more annoying as the two words are TOTALLY different, not an alternative spelling. One word is temporal while the other one is comparative.

A car is bigger THAN a ball.

A car is bigger THEN a ball.....yeah, then the ball does what? I was even at a stock market lecture once and the guy used "then" constantly as a comparison, "BHP has performed better then CRA"....arghhhh.....it was even in his handouts. Even more annoying was that he would have gone to school in the seventies...before the current dumbed down and Americanised generation, so he had no excuse! (The same guy was on ACA a few months ago)

To and too are also annoying. Too is a substitute for "also", so "I am going too", "I am going to" is an imcomplete sentence...where are you going to?

I blame the acceptance of mediocrity in schools, you can't tell a kid they are as dumb as dog do!

Well, must get back to my book..."see spot run..." :lol:

[JethroB76]

Dog do what?

[koputai]

Personally I spell lens, 'eyepiece'.:D

Cheers,
Jason.

[mcross]

Next time you are reading the paper or driving around, take a look at all of the advertising where words have been (deliberately) mis-spelt - by adults, not teachers or students... Try telling a student that "easy" is spelt "e-a-s-y", not "e-z-y" when they go and get their dvds from Video Ezy every week. One of many examples.

As an aside, as someone who has taught for over 20 years, I have come to the conclusion that, because our English language & alphabet is so riddled with inconsistencies & contradictions, it is a miracle that children learn to spell at all!


Mark :)

[koputai]

Don't get me started on the continuing Americanisation of our spelling!!
The Herald spelling gaol as jail for a start.

Cheers,
Jason.

[Garyh]

Well I am guilty of spelling Lense instead of lens....
Give it a few more years and it will be in the dictionary! ;)
Our language is ever evolving so this sort of thing doesn`t worry me.

[madtuna]

Forgive me folks, but can we foster the love of all things Astronomy here and leave the spelling Police at home?

I'd love to invite my 23 year old daughter here but since her brain injury she has had to learn to read and write all over again.
I'd hate to think that through no fault of her own some of you good folk may be looking down on her as uneducated, dumb as dog-do etc.. because of her poor spelling skills.

Willem Hollenbach and Albert Einstein, just to name a couple were both dyslexic.

With the vast array of different ethnicities, languages, educational standards, we are going to find words spelt in any number of different ways.
Does it really matter, it's the content of the post that matters.




p.s. Andrew..."the" is spelt "the" not "tho" and when you start a sentance you start it with a capital ;)

[Kal]

*looks at keyboard and where the location of 'e' and 'o' are*

No idea of how I typed that, they are on the opposite sides of the keyboard! :lol:

My point to this thread is, that I myself kept seeing the word lense typed, and I started to doubt my own spelling of the word lens. Other peoples poor spelling is seeding doubt in my own knowledge!

Perhaps this is just an example of how language evolves over time. Say something wrong enough times and it becomes a fact!

[Glenhuon]

Typos are something everyone does, especially when you don't look at the keboard lke I am nt ding now :)
But, the quality of spelling has gone right down the gurgler with youngsters who don't have the unfortunate affliction of being dislexic. The "phonetic" spelling thing is to blame, worst idea in education as far as I am concerned.
If it is your native language, you should be able to write it correctly. There are differences, for example, between British and American spelling, and I can live with that as that's the way you were taught. "English, as she is spoke" is not the way to go. The word is Lens (on both sides of the Atlantic). ;)

( A Doric Scot giving english lessons :lol: )


Bill

[marki]

As a teacher I wish it was only poor spelling I had to deal with. Often when I address a class many students look at me as if I am speaking another language. Most struggle to string a sentence together and I have had a number of submitted assignments written in phone text shorthand. The other favourite is of course the cut and paste efforts (web links and all) in which the kids have absolutely no input or understanding.

But one thing that does stand out. When I meet the parents of the students with poor literacy skills it is easy to understand why. Parents are the primary educators of their children and if they also struggle with literacy then this will seriously impact the childs grasp on the english language (wittness the shear scope of slang used throughout England and the UK let alone the colonies). Can this be corrected at school? Still, our language is alive and thus must evolve and change over time. I fear in twenty years we will be the ones with the language problem:).

Mark

[Phil]

bont wory 2 nuch about it. Whan i was at shool thay bid not teah as 2 goodd with speeellling.
Fhillip

[Jen]

:stupid::stupid:
i like to abbreviate everything (wonders why the word abbreviate is so long):screwy::screwy::screwy::screw y:

[Glenhuon]

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Still, our language is alive and thus must evolve and change over time. I fear in twenty years we will be the ones with the language problem:).

In 20 years ! I've got it now :lol:
Keep trying, but still can't seem work "like" into my conversations any more than once a day.

Jen, I think thats why I used to hate meetings. Everyone spoke in acronyms and abbreviations, and I've never been good at foreign languages. :)

[marki]

ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH :scared:. It gives me the galloping trots . We have the SRC, SST, LTT, LAC, ABC, EFG ....:screwy: Crikey I need a sheet with all the acronyms just so I know what anyone is saying. Its complete drivel. I even had to download a short dictionary to find out what half the shorthand meant on this site. Sigh, I must be getting old :(.



Mark

[Ric]

You've got me on those ones, I haven't got a clue what they mean.

[marki]

No doubt I was refferring to the ones we use at work :P.

Mark

[Amy]

I'm from Texas in the USA where we are often accused of having our own dialect. ahahahaha. (Tho I transplanted to Florida a couple of years ago for work)

I look at internet forums as a big ole cyber room where we get to meet new folks and enjoy shared appreciations. You encourage communication by the very nature of it being a internet forum. I don't sweat the small stuff as long as I can get the gist of what's being said. You'll always have a ton of lurkers who might be just about ready to join in on the posts - and then they hesitate because their spelling skills are below par. I'd rather they jump in anyway rather than lose out on the possibility of another great friend.

Y'all use the word spelt whereas over here we say spelled. You add the u's into favorite and we've removed it for some reason....maybe to complete the break from Englands rule? lol. I don't even know.

Internet = communications. Might as well be friendly in the process, eh?

Howdy folks! :D

[marki]

Hi Amy and :welcome:to IIS.

I know this thread is a little dark but there is a lot of tongue in cheek humour as well. If you read many of the threads on this forum you will soon see not being able to spell has little impact on people posting and certainly adds to the flavour of the posts. UK English is very difficult to learn as there are so many conventions that constantly change adding to the confusion and on the whole I think most Aussie's couldn't care less (many of the rules I had drummed into me as a child no longer count and I still have trouble with "i"s and "e"s). Most of the odd spelling is a left over from hundreds of years ago when the language was spoken with a gutteral tone hence Knight or night rather than nite and so on. I agree that spelling should not be a barrier for people wanting to have a say but I also have memories of Sister Agnes cracking me over the knuckles with a ruler everytime I made a spelling mistake. You tend not to forget lessons like that :lol:.

Mark

[Jen]

:lol::lol::lol: @ Marks knuckles :lol::lol::lol:

Hey G'day Amy :hi::hi::hi:
:welcome: to iceinspace :thumbsup:

[marki]

Hah, you mock my pain :D.

[Kal]

Hi Amy, welcome to IIS :welcome:

I'll be in Florida in about 6-7 weeks, spending a few days at Disneyworld, checking out the Kennedy Space Centre, and hoping that there won't be a hurricane so I can drive down to Key West!

[Amy]

Hello Marki, Jen and Kal....and everybody else...I've lurked for awhile.

I've got quite a few Aussie friends from another large internet forum on My Space....and was lucky enough to meet one very special fella. I co-moderate an Over 40 group that has over 36,000 members so I'm used to all the directions a thread can go. I quite enjoy that Aussie sense of humor and charm.

And Kal....I'm hoping no hurricanes either. lol. Actually, since I moved here from South Texas...there've been NO hurricanes affecting our weather. I think I've been a good luck charm. :lol:

[Ric]

Hi Amy and welcome to IIS.

Hope you have a great time here with us.

Cheers

[garyp]

I checked out the other thread on the matter and it seems both spellings are acceptable. I didn't confirm with any dictionaries I just took the words of the ones who posted on the thread. (dangerous maybe;))

Having said that I always thought "Lense" was spelt wrong.

Personally it dosen't matter to me either way because I spell other wrods worng ayawny.


on another note :welcome: to IIS Amy.

Cheers
Gary

[marki]

Actually that is incorrect. The correct spelling is lens. Where the confusion enters is in the spelling of the plural which is "lenses". Sounds all wrong, bit like fishes instead of fish but thats how its spelt. Gotta love the english language....not. If nothing else this thread has highlighted the challenges facing children trying to learn the language. It's no wonder they just make it up to suit themselves :P.

Mark

[Kal]

In the past when people wrote with pense instead of texting, spelling was much better! It disheartense me to see the teense of today not getting enough lessonse on spelling! ;)

[Jen]

:gday::gday:

Hey Gday again Amy woohooo yes i love a little myspace too, :ashamed: :Dadd me if you like my myspace page
cheers aussie Jen xoxoxoxoxo
:cool:

[Amy]

pm sent to ya Jen with that info.

I'm at work and can't access the space right now. The hospital where I work has it blocked.....and probably for good reason. Ha~

[Jen]

cool :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:
yeah im blocked from using myspace at work too and now this site arrrrhhhhhhhhhhh i think it was because i wasnt getting any work done hehehe (dam goverment jobs) cheers got ya PM :thumbsup:
(oh and now i think we have hacked this thread :lol::lol::lol:)
sorry guys :P:P:P
:D:whistle::whistle::whistle: