Another fine guitarist!

[Outbackmanyep]

I was thinking about my top 10 guitarists the other day and i had been meaning to find out exactly who Tim Renwick was.
I hate it when there are so many great players out there and a lot of them seem to be left obscure......
Tim Renwick played with Pink Floyd, it was the first time i had heard his stuff, but reading different websites he has even played with David Bowie, Elton John, Mike Oldfield, Roger Waters, Mike and the Mechanics etc

An outstanding talent and one that i won't forget in a hurry!

http://www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/Diner/2674/trenw_b.htm

:thumbsup:

[fringe_dweller]

hey! I saw Tim in the '82 mike oldfield tour! :) you cant mention the live PF without mentioning Snowy White, he played from behind the curtains a lot, filling in the double tracked/overdubbed stuff

[Outbackmanyep]

Thanks for that FD, i have the "Roger Waters: In the Flesh Tour" DVD, im pretty sure he was in that........., Jeff Beck is another one that comes to mind...his sound went well with "Amused To Death" album of Roger Waters.....

Im not sure what the fuss is about in this link FD but i thought you might have a look, you'd probably understand it better than me! lol
http://www.fenderplayersclub.com/artists_lounge/hall_of_legends/gilmour.htm

Its of Dave Gilmour's set-up

Cheers!

[fringe_dweller]

after syd barrett fried his brain, PF waters ect. begged JB to take his place, he declined, as he did many lucrative offers over the years, like the stones post jones,) they took second choice, the rest is history :)
he famously hates drugs, except piss and cigs, and wouldnt have anything to do with anybody there was even a hint of it. (altho strangely he was jimmy hendrixs best mate in the UK - guess he made an exception in that case)
interestingly, in late '60s he toured the US with PF on the same bill as a support, in the JBG version 1 with rod stewart as an unknown singer lol.
man what a line up drool!
what an artist of integrity! passed up on squillions $ and fame to stay true to himself and his vision! incredible! there cant be a similar case in history?

check out the recent crossroads festival footage - with current line-up including *AUSSIE* sydney sider and all round cutie pie 22 yr old Tal Wilkenfeld as his bass player! OI OI OI!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0I2EGP_p4o

check out all the other MSN web broadcast from vicoustruth ;)

i can get this bootleg on DVD, hopefully will soon, just got a copy of the boot DVD from UDO festival in japan, end of 2006 tour AWESOME!!

definitely gonna get the double disc crossroads festival DVD from this year, just released, 5.1 and HD widescreen :-))))))))) only two JB tracks on there tho :(

[dmizen]

what about robin trower eg bridge of sighs (newly remastered!)?

[fringe_dweller]

yep uber hot :thumbsup:

[Terry B]

And of course the astronomer guitarist Brian May has to be mentioned as well.

[Outbackmanyep]

Thanks for the link FD, awesome! He has a Nigel Tufnell appearance about him tho! hehe
Tal is a hottie isnt she!

I agree Terry, Brian May was included in my top 10!

I do notice all the top guitar players have their own distinct sound too, when you hear them on the radio you can almost always pick them by ear!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeuUAOfE2sY
Just like this song when i heard it!

[fringe_dweller]

interestingly it was brian may that rightly gave JB the name 'the GUV'NER' ' i think it was when they collaberated on the muddy waters tribute album by Paul Rodgers (of Free, bad comapny fame)

well thats because he is the inspiration for nigel tufnell lol kinda
here's the very clip that i think the actor based his character on :) also JB was involved in sequel, he has a huge sense of humour, listen to many comic strip presents music, hes on the plane in the episode where they hi jack plane go to south america, as well as the sound track, i think he did the music for free as there were his mates, specially lenny henry and dawn french

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-p05vOgGNSo

huge ferry fan mate - cheers - hadnt seen it!

[Outbackmanyep]

Thanks for the link, i was just waiting for him to go to 11....cos its one louder!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhVWJgIzftE&feature=related

[fringe_dweller]

i am reminded as i listen loud now to recently purchased Seal's CD of 2004 'live in paris' in good ol' glorious 41.1 kHz :) on the Denon/Richter system :D i liked the stuff Jb did with him at one stage.

speaking of recently remastered stuff out there, ive been getting some 50's and 60's blues artists, specially chess stuff, sound like they were recorded yesterday!!!! check out muddy waters 2006 issue 'the definitive collection' :eyepop: spooky stuff :thumbsup:

[ngcles]

Hi fringe Dweller & All,

You are the first person I've ever met outside my circle of friends (in the 80s) who saw Mike Oldfield in Australia in 1982. What a concert that was!

In Sydney he played the Capitol Theatre which is not a huge venue but it was packed to the rafters. He did most of TB, Ommadawn, Five Miles Out and bits of QE II and he was on stage for about 2 1/2 hours.

Wish he'd come back! I have a DVD of a concert Mike did at the Montreux Jazz festival in 1981 that is available at JB Hi Fi for about $20-. It contains basically the same set as we saw in 1982 but Rick Fenn (ex 10cc) plays Bass and guitar, not Tim Renwick.

There is nothing better in this world than listening to Amarok or Instructions for Angels under a pristine sky with a big 'scope at hand -- my idea of pure heaven!

Is Steve Howe (Yes) on your list? He ought to be. In my books it is Oldfield, Howe and Gilmour 1,2 & 3 in that order.

Best,


Les D
Contributing Editor
AS&T

[astroturf]

Hi Guys
I also used to be a big fan of Steve Howe & actually heard him mentioned around the traps more recently,playing somewhere
My long term favourites would have to be Ry Cooder(love Slide!) & lest we forget Frank Zappa--god bless 'im
cheers
Bryan

[fringe_dweller]

gday Les I just dug up the ticket stubs (i collect them all that i go too)
I remember it well enough tho, was front row in front of speaker columns, i certainly lost some hearing ability i think! lol

Thebarton Theatre (no tour name hmm maybe on other half?) monday May 17th 1982, 8:00 pm seats A 11 and 12 :D

wasnt it around the time of 'moonlight shadow' and Maggie Reilly was there that night, and sang it? hmmm false memories? cool memories even if they are false!!!? :lol:
i remember him changing guitar every song/piece and he had about 20 gits in a half circle
i could see up his nostrils just about from memory?

have you heard the mike oldfield treatment of x-files theme music 'tubular-x' cant remember if it is his or a remix using his stuff? best space observing track in history :)

[fringe_dweller]

and Yes have always been a Yes fan :) am I revealing to much about being a secret prog rock tragic :scared: its not so cool these days? LOL stuff them i say!

[fringe_dweller]

one of the weirdest of re-mastered thinsg I have seen in recent times was a jan 2007 re-release of the seminal 1956 movie 'rock around the clock' with Bill Haley and His Comets :)
i was watching classic movies channel on foxtel and suddenly i was watching razor sharp HD sound and picture version in WIDESCREEN b&w tho, 5.1 (on DVD) of this movie, that looked like it was shot yesterday! VERY VERY VERY spooky!!!
i had to have my jaw rewired straight after viewing, as it detatched in shock! totally remastered in evry way!
not much of it is live, some is, but it is hard to pick!!! but then this soundtrack is a one off made specially for the movie, never released on cd's/vinyl ever. can only hear it during this movie. And fine recordings they are. man its just like a freaky time warp, and is so alive and now!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_Around_the_Clock_(film)

[mlcolbert]

I've got to chime in here (sorry!) for Mike Oldfield, I also saw him play down in Melbourne. As for the Album, it's got to be Ommadawn Part One.


michael


Great guitarists.... well, he's not great but I still have the memory of a 16 y.o. on a youth camp and one of the older guys started playing Stairway on acoustic 6 or maybe a 12..... he opened up a new world of music beyond the German Head Machine.


m

[fringe_dweller]

when you say top guitarists, i think you have to specify whether it includes the dead ones? coz then hendrx would top most lists?

my current top faves of alive people - JB/Steve Morse/Adrian Belew/Warren haynes/Eric johnson/Buddy Guy - i need to think about that tho

[ngcles]

Hi Fringe Dweller & All,

Oh dear, so there are individuals out there who are almost as sad as myself --I have to admit that I have my ticket stubs too. They were for the 24th May I think -- I was only married a month before that. I also still have the concert program and the front cover -- which gives the name of the tour is attached. Hope it revives a good memory or two.

No, Maggie couldn't have sung Moonlight Shadow. That was on the Crises album 1983 or 1984. But she did sing several bits where voice was needed on Five Miles Out -- Deep, deep sound etc, Ommadawn and a QE II track or two.

Dunno about 20 gits, maybe 8 or 10, though the main one used was a deep red Gibson SG but he also had a Tele as well -- probably the instrument that was used to record most of Tubular Bells. All played through a big Fender twin.

Yep, Ommadawn is one of the very finest of Mike's works -- my favs are Incantations (particularly parts 3&4), Amarok and Tubular Bells III.

There is a new album to be released in early January. Can't wait -- it is a purely orchestral piece.

Steve Howe still plays occasionally with Yes but is now really into Jazz. He plays a lot of Jazz gigs.

Virtually all my music is prog rock -- that is nothing to be ashamed off. I've a feeling our collections wold have a lot in common.


Best,

Les D

[ngcles]

Forgot the scan of the programme

Les D

[fringe_dweller]

:lol: yep I havent met anyone else who does that either :scared: ;) , thankfully? hehe



ahh your right Les, i was a little out of it at the time as per usual back then - could explain my memory :D your recollection is superb, I'm impressed!



i was gonna say 10-20 gits, but settld for latter as that was my hyper impression of it.



I am aware of him for sure, specially from in Asia, theres lots of great players as you know :)



you could be right les, altho i never replaced everthing i had on tape or vinyl before CD's so dont currently have them all again, but thrashed them as a youngster

hows the amazing unknowns being discovered regularly on utube these days like this guy

http://youtube.com/watch?v=dt1fB62cGbo

theres a healthy crop comin through still :thumbsup::thumbsup:

[fringe_dweller]

lol amazing! :) thats a keeper!
cheers!

[Outbackmanyep]

Maggie Reilly......what a voice she had hey! Nice sort too!

:thumbsup:

[DavidU]

Irwin Thomas is a legend ! He used to be called Jack Jones and he's a Aussie.
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=srM0K8NanLw

[ngcles]

Hi Outback & All,

Yep, Maggie has a sensational voice with an expansive range -- many have described it as being "angelic" sounding. The best thing I think she did with Mike was the Deep, Deep Sound on Five Miles Out.

Sadly, Maggie got the flick after the Crises album in favour of Anita what's-her-name who Mike subsequently married (and then later divorced).

"Nice sort" ? Well I guess if all that "teased out" day-glow red hair with a strong Glasgow accent is the sort of thing that floats your boat ...


Best,

Les D
Contributing Editor
AS&T

[fringe_dweller]

lol thousands of glaswegians can't be wrong? i wouldnt of kicked her out of the .. umm .. ermm .. you know :P back then and if i was single of course :D :whistle:

ok, and what about pauline hanson being a pinup here at one time? please explain?

I guess what I am saying that struck me and stays in my mind with the gits on stage, was that they seemed to be a centre piece like the stars of the show or something, at the one I saw. They were prominent centre stage, where-as ive never seen that done like that again, usually handed to them by a techie from off stage? anyway i certainly remember the having a great time!

[merlin8r]

Just caught this thread after a long IIS absence. Yes, it was Snowy White on the Roger Waters "In the Flesh" DVD. Among other things you can see him in the guitar "duel" in the second solo of Comfortably Numb. He's on a Gibson, where the other guy (whose name I don't remember) plays a strat upside down! I've just started learning to play guitar, and it gives you a whole new perspective on how great some of these guitarists are. Not just the playing, but the composing as well. I get immense satisfaction bashing my way through "Wish You Were Here".

[Outbackmanyep]

hey merlin8r,
i know wish you were here quite well, it was one of the first i learnt to play, the first song i learnt was "brain damage" and still is one of my favs to play. I have trouble holding down the first 2 strings on the 3rd fret with my third finger playing wish you were here....the intro is ok and the chords are easy to remember too - C,D,Am,G / D,C,Am,G :thumbsup:

[merlin8r]

Even easier is "Mother"... 3 chords in the verses, G, C and D. I'm still struggling with chord transition though, and Mother has some very quick ones.

[dmizen]

what about martin pugh ? steamhammer/armegeddon

[merlin8r]

The way I play it, fingers 3 and 4 hold down 1st and 2nd string on the 3rd fret, for the entire intro bit. Much easier.

[Outbackmanyep]

Mother is an AWESOME song to play, i play it just about every night!
The transition for me initially was hard too, but it just gets easier and easier, i reckon 2 hrs a night and by the end of the month you'll have it down pat!

I like the D to C transition during the "ooooh baaaabe" part.......
The chord i HATE playing, since i have the classical nylon string guitar, is the B chord! My little finger isn't long enough in the first joint to bridge BGD strings on the 4th fret, I try to hold them down with each of my other 3 fingers! LOL, i have used the steel strings at my brothers place and its much easier with the narrower fret, and sounds better! (my guitar was a gift!)

Thanks for the WYWH tip! i'll try that tomorrow night!

Cheers!
:thumbsup:

[Outbackmanyep]

Hi dmizen!
I don't know that artist too well, but i'm sure Fringe_Dweller would know Mr Pugh!
I might have a listen to his stuff myself!

Cheers!

[Roger Davis]

How about:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ilNISJTryxw
Eric Mongrain

[dmizen]

a bit of back ground - Armageddon was a collaboration of martin pugh [from steamhammer] keith relf [yardbirds] and bass player and drumer who end up in steamhammer via edgar and johnny winter.

when steamhammer collapsed one half went to rod stewart as steampacket (?) the other half plus keith relf formed armageddon and released an album titled armageddon which made no 75 in the us in 1975. the album was recored contempoaneously with led zepplins physical graffiti in adjoining studios, to my mind there are tracks on the armageddon album that sound like an amalgamation of the two bands, given jimmy pages connection with keith relf through the yardbirds and pages abilty to appear just about every where I would not be supprised if that was in fact the case.

steamhamer were big in europe approx 67-72 their biggest hit (which they wrote) is juniors wailing staus quo had a bigger hit with it early in their career.

if your interested both steamhammer and armageddon are available on cd via amazon

[fringe_dweller]

i find asking people what their favourite music/guitarist is like asking someone whats their favourite colour, its such an individual taste thing.
its what speaks to you that matters, and i like some less technical but soulful/spirited players as much as I like the musical multi instrumentalist prodigies

dmizen, i admit to not knowing Martin Pugh , altho i am reminded of an ozzie astro photographer with the same name ;)
but it seems to me there are as many good and great guitarists as there are stars in the sky! but there is only one Sirius to me ;)
I am and have been for decades a HUGE fan of the yardbirds, and ol one lung keith relf was an amazing front man, and an extremely underrated harmonica player IMO
i see micky waller played with steamhammer, he played with JB in the JBG with stewart and woods at one stage, a GREAT drummer, the old six degrees of seperation with brit 60's 70's players is more like 2 degrees of seperation at times lol!

[GrahamL]

yeah aside the huge unbelievably talented names there are some some obscure ones you'd never know of who very much help shape a lot of music around today.

[fringe_dweller]

ok here's a selection of some cool vids of geetarists i like

Warren Haynes aptly titled facemelter

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMxG90vP-aU

joe bonamassa is very hot indeed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXGnyc539LY

Adrian Belew 3 of a Perfect Pair

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8f30bFAaGcs

here's an example of some that arent virtuosos - but still hit the spot with heaps of character ect.ie keith richards ect. i am going thru a down an dirty mississipi hills country blues stage for last year or two (there used to be better vids but they are removed?) i love the hypnotic trancey repetitive riff stuff to, kenny brown the white guy on git

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgsC1WlAzWE

and throw this one in as he amazing too

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3gMgK7h-BA

[fringe_dweller]

ok an aussie list

my fave hmmm could be ross hannaford in his 'ross hannaford trio' mode, one of my alltime favourite cd's is the self titled album from late 90's, with nicky bomba - hard to get now, he is playing adelaide git festival atm, diff line up tho

http://www.adelaideguitarfestival.com.au/?PK_PAGE_ID=1169&CMS_PERSON_ID=65

all the obvious ones like ian moss (got his latest cd, damn nice :) )
tommy emmanuel ect. tho lots of em arent born here like acdc's angus young, dave hole.
two guitarist from cruel sea, charlie owen
I have always liked rose tattoo's pete wells (RIP) (i like the former bass players turned slide gitarist ;) )

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=JyDjNIxnR0g

never been a fan of angry much, but i am just realising how much he sounds like rod stewart LOL, in his early days as a rocker! coz i read a blurb that said they were influenced by the faces, and i can hear it now! weird, and petes ron woods slide playing! bizarre

what about Brett Garsed? i like his stuff, plays with john farnham

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=WF9Sb-vdApc

thers more, cant think at mo tho

[GrahamL]

mick ronson was one i found worth a read on his life .

I have bumped a few comments by some of the huge names
emerging in the early 70 s giving the nod to mick as being a major
influence .

Bowie was an undeniable talent alone .. but his most succesfull time
was without doubt when mick was involved .. which is another part of a great talent i guess .. not only do you have to BE good but you need to spot others who are .

To lend a little to that notion drag out a copy of Lou Reeds transformer;)

lou was going nowhere special music wise .. until this recording.
read the credits and the question begs .. why would bowie go half way round the world and drag his bands guitarist into a recording studio and completely involve him in the arrangement /perfomance / production ??

mossy could be getting on a bit kearn ,my wife tells me he had to ring her twice for directions to her motel despite being nearlly out front:lol::thumbsup:

[fringe_dweller]

yep mick ronson was great too :thumbsup: I have a mad collecter old muso mate who every thing mick ever did just about, along many others, and ronsons solo stuff sounds just like the bowie/spiders! lol i loved all the bowie guitarists, especially SRV ;) tony visconti stuff you name it
heres an interesting vid

http://youtube.com/watch?v=GO1jkxAxS3w

LOL at mossy story, I had mates see him recently said he was great :) doing a lot more slide and playing a resonater/national even i see, thats what happens when you get old :P

also aussie guitarists - new i would forget some good ones, the dude from the living end, is pretty darn amazing :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[Outbackmanyep]

Bob Kretschmer from Icehouse......LEGEND!

[M110]

You are missing a few people verydear to me. Tony Iommi from Black Sabbath, who the creators of heavy metal. You name me one metal/rock guitarst since who would not name the riffmaster as an influnce.

Randy Rhoads who played with Ozzy after he left Sabbath. Randy's use of classical scales in rock instead of blues made his sound and the influnce on future generations worthy of guitar great. Sadly Randy died at the age of 26 after only giving the world only 2 albums with Ozzy.

And what about Eddie Van Halen with his two handed tapping technique? You can't tell me he didn't inluence just a few to pick up a guitar

[CoombellKid]

Having worked in the rock 'n' roll industry for a good 20 years of my life,
toured with almost every international act to tour Australia in the 90's in
various capacities. The best guitarist (in my book) was seeing Stevie Ray
Vaughan back in NZ several months before he was killed. Man that guy
was a showman. Another guy in Oz who appealed to me was Jeff Lange,
my old band supported him on a couple of gig's in the early 90's.

regards,CS

[CoombellKid]

Yeah old Randy Rhoads, that was a sad story, but if you get drunk and jump
into an aeroplane with a drunk pilot and buzz buildings it was only time before
something was going to happen. I believe Ozzy was actually asleep in the
room that plane crashed into, what a way to wake up eh'. Randy was a very
shy kida guy, while the rest would party after each gig Randy would head back
to the hotel and practice guitar.



I meet Eddie in Sydney when Van Halen toured here, unfortunately Sammy
had just left the band and that idiot from Extreme was the singer, very
disappointing IMO. it was my last rock 'n' roll show I did (apart from a couple
of opera house step gigs. Eddie was a huge influence on me. But I must
admit when I watched him during his sound check, I thought he had gone
to the dogs.

regards,CS

[fringe_dweller]

yep i was gonna say Jeff Lang Rob, abc2 had a show filmed at the gov here in adelaide, on the other night, which i watched. I have tried hard to like jeff lang, I like him as a player, which he is a virtuoso at, and he is an aussie legend i know, and ex- wunderkind prodigy, but his singing and choice of material leaves me cold, I like deeper to slightly deeper registered singers for blues generally - weedy voice+blues, thumbsdown

wish this tour had came to oz/nz, lots of the really good ones don't :(

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1nOn_eT1f4

[CoombellKid]

LOL, well he must of dropped the "e" off Lang, dont remember too much
about his singing. All I remember seeing is this pint size lil redhead kid with
hair down past his bum, and he wasn't much bigger than his stratocaster lol
This was back in the early 90's

Back then he was doing pretty good material, then I didn't hear from him
until a picture of him on TV a couple of nights ago, something to do with
the SA guitar festival.



regards,CS

[fringe_dweller]

lol, hey Rob, went to a show on w/e, who was is inside the door as i enter 2 feet away with a pram and child, yep he sure is not very tall! never seen him before in real life, had watched a fair number of his stuff on youtube, didnt pick up on that before - he looks much younger than in footage!
I thought he was missing from the shire at first? :P
he probably did more covers back then, does a lot of originals i think now, which not are all my 'cup of tea'

[fringe_dweller]

hehe

**Sat 01 Dec 07**
SINT RESPONSE. SAY IT'S NOT TRUE >snip,..
...>snip Thanks folks, Cheers
Bri

P.S. Mind you ... after seeing Jeff Beck last night in terrifying form heading up a sensational band at Ronnie Scott's ... I might just have to give up Guitar Playing! Jeff is utterly, brilliantly innovative and dangerous, still ahead of us all after all these years ... I had to give myself a good talking-to on the way out, to remind myself that we all have our roads to follow, etc., etc ... In Jeff's hands, the guitar becomes almost an entirely new instrument ... he is quite unlike anyone or anything else we have ever seen ... the guitarist's guitarist ... the Guv'nor ! (I wrote a song to commemorate this fact ... remember?) It reminds me of seeing Jimi Hendrix, all those years ago. As a privileged spectator, having being thrilled, shocked, stunned, and nearly obliterated, you have to one of two things. Give up, or go home and practice a LOT!!!

One of the best things about my life has been enjoying a relationship with many of the best guitarists in the world. I'm incredibly fortunate ... they're all inspiring, and great people too ... but I don't think I am out of line - I don't think there are many players out there anywhere who would quarrel with my next sentence.

In the dark art of weaving magic from 6 metal strings .... respects to probably the greatest living exponent ... BECK.

Bri

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[Nightshift]

Jose Feliciano.

For his pure understanding of the entire concept of music and his ability to apply it to the fret board. A true guitarist can produce unbelievable sounds from finger work (PIMA), Chords and slide without the use of electricity, most of the guitarists mentioned so far could not keep up with Jose acoustically, if in doubt, browse youtube and "flight of the bumble bee", he was only 16 when he played that and keep in mind he is blind. They all have their place but when it comes to pure music, Jose gets it from me.

Cheers, Dennis. (Desperately practicing to get to Jose's standards)

[bluescope]

Hi All

There are brilliant guitar players who specialize in different styles. In the field of electric rock and jazz there are too many to list.

Tommy Emmanuel is an Australian virtuoso of the acoustic guitar, to hear him play in a relaxed Xmas party atmosphere in a music store in Bondi with Rene Geyer singing as, I did in the mid 70's, was a real treat to remember. His solo albums since then have redefined what guitar playing is and he continues to tour the world wowing people with his amazing technique.

http://www.tommyemmanuel.com/home.asp

John McLayghlin is another innovator of the guitar both electric and acoustic.

http://www.johnmclaughlin.com/

By the way I was a professional musician ( guitarist ) for 22 years.

Check out these guys if you haven't heard of them.

:thumbsup:

[fringe_dweller]

yep jose' rocks always loved his version of the doors song 'light my fire'
have you seen jennifer batten's finger tapping version of flight of the bumblebee on youtube?! wild, she's been a fave for a while, was michael jacksons guitarists a while back, solo on 'beat it' comes to mind as her biggest moment to date, and i love her work with JB, especially my the '99 end of tour bootleg dvd/cd.
I play a nylon a lot now, as it doesnt wear down my nails like steel string, ive been a fingerpicker for a long time now. spent 5 years playin a heavy strung 12 string relentlessly, so the wide fret board feels natural now too, and was a 5 string bass player for many years also. play (smaller size glass) bottleneck slide a lot on it lol! freaks people out hehe

[CoombellKid]

Ummm correction, that was the man himself Edward Van Halen the guitar
and solo on Michael Jackson's Beat it, that is

regards,CS

[fringe_dweller]

Tommy was mentioned earlier :D love his stuff legend! liked dragon too ;)
and John M rocks of course, i recently got a mp3 bootleg of a JB show from tour' 74 and JM/Mahavishnu Orchestra double billed swapping top order every night, and JM joins in for a song, they did a lot together over years of course.

I kinda like this site, yes i know torrent/dimeadozen ect are all good and free, but i hate the reciprocosity BS, but you can listen to entire bootleg album/ concert for free as many times as you want! theres MO '73 one there, pretty cool.

http://www.wolfgangsvault.com/

http://crawdaddy.wolfgangsvault.com/Article.aspx?id=3042

do you still play just for fun/relaxation at least Steve?

[fringe_dweller]

hhmmm ive been misled then - still i think her version is better :P i feckin hate EVH - sorry :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEZwVqHX7EU

[sailormoon]

who is he?? sorry havnt really heard about him. First time like everyone else. I'm more into the younger generation stuff like Blink 182 and JEW

[fringe_dweller]

hey sailormoon, i like a LOT of stuff that was made WELL before my time, its about having an open mind and a developed palette - hmmm oh those pussy white middle class cry baby wannabe punks make me puke :P, like blink 182 (do they ever wear clothes? lol) I remember the the real thing of course
how about 'the living end' - are they old hat already?
tho I like john 5 from the modern shredders/players. i dont mind greenday either.
I also liked smash mouth too, thats old hat too now i guess?.
guitarists, which this thread is about, ideally, tend to get better with age, like fine wine :D its not always downhill from age 25, is it?

[fringe_dweller]

someone outta tell those classical and folkie fans that the stuff they are listening to is possibly 100's of years old :rolleyes: losers LOL

[thorsdad]

How about these guys that I haven't seen mentioned:

Joe Satriani - one of my favourites.
Steve Vai
Carlos Vamos - amazing fingertapping virtuoso:eyepop:.
Gary Moore.

Just a few of my favourites.:thumbsup:

[CoombellKid]

Read all about it :thumbsup:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beat_It

Don't be sorry ;) lot of folks were jealous of old eddie :lol:

regards,CS

[CoombellKid]

Saw him on his first tour out here down at the Enmore Theatre



How many guitar tracks does one need:rolleyes:



Ooooh Yeah!!

[DavidU]

I have been lucky enough to work with most of the killa aussie guitarists over the last 25 years.
One of my fav aussies is Irwin Thomas.......
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=srM0K8NanLw
Dweezil Zappa flew him up to Sydney last night to be the guest player (taking Steve Vai's place) !!!!!!!!!! and Irwin killed it !!!!!!! awesome !
Irwin Thomas is the real name for Jack Jones (Southern Sons ,Farnham. etc)

[fringe_dweller]

:lol::lol: jealous!? hardly, great advertisement for tooo much nose candy tho! i remember when they come out, it was like he had suddenly invented the guitar and all those tricks, well guess who started the whole finger tapping thing :whistle:
from that same era Mark Knopfler was head and shoulders over that kinda 'fluff' :lol:
i dont think eddie will be having, or has had ,a career at the top for 40 plus yrs!! and still going!
i did like some van halen - the band that is

[fringe_dweller]

he's a mighty fine player :thumbsup: a little reminiscent of eric johnson that piece for me

[CoombellKid]

Well I guess that all depends on how you look at it. Eddie just took it to a
different level, one that turned me on for sure. Personally I've never looked
at a guitarist as being the best or whatever, to me that just doesn't exist.
Different players do different things to me. Although I would have to say
Jeff Beck certainly rings my bell, not too many top 40's there. but then I've
never judge a musucians ability by making the top 40.

Besides if we really want to get purist on who did what first, finger tapping
wasn't invent by Mark Knopfler either. Try Nicolo Pagini (1782-1840) a
violinist from the early 1800's ;). I did a couple of shows with Dire Straights
back in 85's I think.... I'll have to look back through my stage passes.

regards,CS

[thorsdad]

Oops,
how could i forget the Sultan of Swing. I spent hours listening over and over to the end of that song just to get the lead. I eventually learnt it. I agree about there not being a best guitarist, just different styles. Eddie certainly rocks with his artificial harmonics and tapping etc. Others such as Knopfler, Clapton and Carlos Santana more melodic. Only heard about a dude called Dimebag Daryl (Pantera) last year when doing a search for harmonics etc. Some crazed fan shot and killed him on stage at a gig, wow crazy.

[fringe_dweller]

I meant JB was among the first, if not the first to do the finger tapping harmonics thing, on modern electric guitar just he was a bit more subtle and tasteful with it not just doing it coz he can, cheesy flashy hair rock look at me look at me stuff

in what capacity did you do those shows, as support act?

[fringe_dweller]

I love this EVH clip, my favourite :scared: :scared3:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXbCt_1mrak

[CoombellKid]

Truss spot operater. You ever been to a show in one of the entertainment
centres through out OZ. And before the show starts you see folks come
out in black and climb the wire rope ladders up into the rigs? that was me
when I started out in the entertainment industry.

regards,CS

[CoombellKid]

I'd love to look, but the o'l bush dialup I'm on would freak!!! ....I'm hoping
the 98% of OZ on high speed braudband includes me one day :lol::whistle::sadeyes:

regards,CS

[fringe_dweller]

hey that would of been a sweet job mate, what a view :eyepop: watched two knoflers eh :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

you know i''m only winding youse up dont ya? :D:D :cheers: eddie's pretty handy with a guitar for sure - arent they re-formed/ing and touring, hopefully here even, atm? i know he beat the cancer a while ago

[fringe_dweller]

its a spoof/send-up, with overdubbed intentionally/deliberately bad playing, there was a whole bunch of these for different players recently

hey I think kevin07 promised the good BB I hope they meant it :)

[CoombellKid]

I've met EVH in person. Actually I got him a chair to sit on during his sound
check in Sydney. And shook his hand, top bloke. Actually a friend of mine
who was the monitors guy for the Baby Anaimals had his wedding reception
in his back yard while on tour with the Baby Anaimals who were supporting
US wide Van Halen tour not long after they toured here.

regards,CS

[CoombellKid]

LOL, sweet job. I did the Bon Jovi Slippery When Wet tour as a truss spot
operater. If you saw the show I was on the back truss which moved up and
down. One minute you'd be 60' in the air the next 8' off the stage. That was
cool, but we didn't know about the pyro's until they came across the clear-com.
A split second later Booom!! right under ya bum, friggen nearly jumped
out of my follow spot seat, in fact if I wasn't strapped in I would of landed
on the damn stage. The bloke opposite me did the same. I still get a giggle
out of remembering that.

regards,CS

[fringe_dweller]

cool stories Rob, i have known a few roadies/techs in my time, good hard working people, bad hours of work sometimes i think. the pryo technics accident sounded slightly nearly dangerous!! if you know what i mean ;)

[CoombellKid]

Terrible hours, not only that but you were always renting some place you
didn't live in lol.

Pyro's are lots of fun : ) I love them. But when your not ready for them an
a percussion flash goes off 8' under bum, it's the first one that gets you.
I'm a ticketed pyro techician, and can fire mortors up to 3.5". I used to
do the Harbour Bridge on NYE when Sid Howard was doing it, back in the
mid 90's

regards,CS

[CoombellKid]

Hell I can still remember the song Bad Medicine <- typo?

regards,CS

[Outbackmanyep]

How about Per Gessle?? (Roxette)

[bluescope]

Sorry to take so long to reply ! I don't get online everyday !

I only play for my own pleasure these days, bit like getting back to how it all started. The guitar is a wonderful instrument to just sit and fool around on whenever the fancy takes you.

:thumbsup:

[fringe_dweller]

no worries Steve, glad to hear it :)
It would be hard for me to give up completely I would imagine, once its in your blood and all that, It's a pretty cheap hobby once you own a half decent guitar, not so much need for constant upgrading like some pastimes I spose ;) lol
some of the toys available these days makes it all extremely interesting again tho i must say, i would pick out modern acoustic pick-ups, digital Looper pedals, and of course ebay, just for a quick 3 large recent git world developments, out of many, many technological developments that deeply impress and stun me, almost daily it seems, too many to mention really. its all too hard to resist for me!! :lol: :thumbsup: