Maxvision factory making Meade and Celestron

[netwolf]

Hi All,

While looking into the Meade 80mm 5000 ED telescope, i found Maxvision who make these scopes in China. I found them on the hkastroforums where Maxvision have there own sub forum.
http://www.hkastroforum.net/viewforum.php?f=39

This lead me to another forum with some interesting pictures. Meade and Celestron scopes from the same factory..

http://www.astronomy.com.cn/bbs/thread-58923-1-1.html

This picture specifically shows both together on the floor.
http://www.astronomy.com.cn/bbs/attachment.php?aid=58128&noupdate=yes


Maxvision is selling the scopes badged under there name also.
http://www.hkastroequipment.com/catalog_1.html


Not really surprising i guess. The Celestron gear in these pictures seem to be there entry level goto telescopes.

Edit:
I do have a great respect for the Chinese manufacturers who have turned the world economy around and are making more products available to a larger market. And the quality will improve over time. On a recent trip to India I noted how technology was becoming more available to everyone. Like for examples cheap mobile phones. You can always find varying levels of quality in the same product. Quality A, B and C, it just depends how much you want to spend. When considering quality however one must also consider the lower replacement cost.


Regards
Fahim

[allan gould]

That blew my socks off. Meade/Celestron in bed together

[citivolus]

Thanks Fahim, looking through those pictures was very interesting, and reminded me just how much in China is done by hand.

[Astroman]

All I get is a message saying "对不起，请不要从外部链接下载本论坛的附件。" Any ideas what this means?

[leon]

I don't know about the production of scopes that much, but this is not uncommon with other products , where two different brands of products share the same factory space, so to speak.

leon

[netwolf]

Alan yes you will not see that in any marketing or magazine ad's. At first I thought i was seeing things then I zoomed in and could make out the Celestron badge leaving no doubt. Synta are obviously sub contracting the work to others, which is not surprising. I would not be surprised to find similar pictures in factory's making other branded equipment.

Regards
Fahim

[Astroman]

Yep we do this at work with competitors products... BTW image working now

[netwolf]

Andrew, which link are you getting that on?

Regards
Fahim

[netwolf]

Looking over the product range available on the hkastroequipment website, I note that only a subset of the Meade product is available. This is no surprise as the rest is more than likely made in California soon to be moved to Mexico.

Regards
Fahim

[netwolf]

Oh by the way I find Firefox plugin foxlingo very useful in translating these sites.

In english

http://www.google.com/translate?langpair=zh-CN|en&u=http://www.astronomy.com.cn/bbs/thread-58923-1-1.html



Regards

[Astroman]

ooo must get that lingo-a-jig then. The error was on the Celestron-meade holding hands link

[ballaratdragons]

Holden and Ford make each other parts (and other makes). Why not anybody else.

[Blue Skies]

Fascinating reading in English and those smilies are something else - I have no idea what they are meant to indicate! Thanks for the pics anyway, always interesting to see inside the factories.

[ballaratdragons]

Notice in the pics that no-one is wearing a hair-net, the floors aren't exactly spotless, and there are no sealed dust-proof rooms!!!!!!!!!

[StarLane]

My thoughts exactly. Lots of equipment lying on the ground unprotected from dust, dirt and hair (apart from the odd plastic bag on certain tubes).

[rally]

Thanks for info.

Did you also read the thread about the new Maxvision 5" air spaced triplet APO.
They compared it (very favourably) to a 7" TMB APO !

Not conclusive (by any means) but we're talking about a cheaper Chinese scope now being compared in the same class as Tak130's, FSQ106's, TMB 5 to 7" AstroPhysics EDT130 etc

http://www.hkastroforum.net/viewtopic.php?t=10276

Cheers Rally

[Kal]

roflmao!

Someone asks him to post a comparison pic of 30 second exposure using a DSLR, and his reply "However please note that we are testing TELESCOPES, not astrograph" yet he says "So is it high time for us to think twice before spending money on a Takahashi TOA 130, AstroPhysic EDT130 or a TMB 5 inch? Since at 1 / 3 the price you get a same performance (or even better) Maxivision 5 inch APO"

:rofl:

[ballaratdragons]

I must admit, you invent or design and manufacture something, and the Chinese will improve on it and sell it cheaper!

They do it with all sorts of products.

When I had a Harley Davidson Dealership in Ballarat, I was always amazed at the quality of the Taiwanese parts and accessories I sold. The quality (and fit) was far superior to the original HD factory parts and the Japanese copies.
I asked the salesman how they can produce such excellent products and also cheaper. He said he visits the Taiwanese Factories, and the production line workers totally love their work and take pride in every piece they make!!! They each make thousands of items a day, and have pride in every one of them. It shows!

There is a funny story about Japanese copies though.
During the second world war, the Japanese took a captured soldiers WLA Harley Davidson back to Japan and back engineered it. They wanted a bike that was as good as the Yanks.

The engineering dept, that did the copying somehow got every measurement 25% wrong!!!!!

What they ended up with was a WLA Harley-Davidson that was too big for them to ride :rofl:

[Louwai]

You will find that almost all "companies" that are registered or based in Hong Kong are purely trading agents. They do nothing but source items from factories. There is no room left in HK for factories.
ALL products they sell will be manufactured by mainland China factories, or Taiwanese factories.

For my importing business I never deal with HK sellers. I always track down the actual factory. Usually around 25% cheaper.

B

[Louwai]

I've been dealing with the Chinese for several years now. One thing that stands out. In China there are no False Advertising laws. Anybody will tell you anything they can think of to get youto buy their product.
What ever you ask for, their product will do it. Until you actually buy it. Then for some reason
"the research on that particular portion is not complete yet & so we didn't add it to your order"