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Glenhuon
20-10-2007, 10:07 PM
A while ago I started playing around with an Agent webcam I bought on Ebay. Later I bought one of the colour DSI's and the webcam got put aside. The DSI has so far been a pain in the behind, so back to the webcam. After a bit of hacking and dismantling I ended up with the body and a bare CCD chip. Yesterday I managed to graft on an IR filter to replace the built in one which was removed with the lens holder, and with a polarizing filter stacked on top these are the results so far. The software with the cam also gives some control over brightness, contrast, exposure, gamma etc. Still playing with these settings.

All 3 are avi's reduced to individual bitmaps and stacked in registax and given minimal processing in Paintshop Pro 7.
The first two are slightly different settings on the polarizing filter I used, the third is with a little tweaking of the software settings as well.
All video files were around 200 frames. Scope was 80mm SurplusShed ATM refractor at prime focus.

Omaroo
02-11-2007, 07:56 AM
Don't know why I didn't see this post before Bill.

Great stuff. I like looking for alternatives too. It's what drives me I guess.

Does the eBay shop you bought this webcam from display its characteristics? It looks like it's reasonably light sensitive, and like many cameras available now should perform well down below 1 lux. I'm looking at a Logitech Fusion right now and I can have one from Trickie Dickies, today, for about $90 - which is less that the venerable ToUcam once the ebay seller adds their transport cost.

It's be interesting to see how you go with barlow too.... :thumbsup:

Cheers
Chris

Omaroo
02-11-2007, 08:00 AM
LOL! I just put a $50 max bid on eBay for the aGent. Let's see..... 7 hours to go.

Glenhuon
02-11-2007, 10:47 AM
Best of luck Chris:thumbsup:
I managed to jag mine for $45.

Bill

GTB_an_Owl
02-11-2007, 11:20 AM
would the cheaper one without the 4x zoom be a better choice ?

who cares that it's not vista compatible

geoff

Glenhuon
02-11-2007, 03:27 PM
When I bought mine it was supposed to be the cheaper one, but when it arrived it had the zoom and a built in mic (about as much use as udders on a bull for what I wanted it for :)) Yep, who cares about the Vista bit, tried it once for 24hrs and went back to XP, have enough software problems now without looking for more . :D
They are a bit tricky to take apart without doing damage, you have to push the cable in a little and pull on the end cap and bit by bit the whole plastic body slips out of the tube. I ended up carefully cutting through the plastic just aft of the end cap with a junior hacksaw till it comes off and reveals the lens tube. The inner body is split and comes apart to leave a bare circuit board. The lens holder is only held on by 2 small screws on the back side of the circuit board. Handle carefully, the wires are pretty thin.


Bill

Omaroo
02-11-2007, 04:08 PM
Just won it - AU$26.00 plus AU$14.00 freight from Melbourne. All up - AU$40.00! :)

Bill - what was the diameter of the unit as it is?

Cheers
Chris

Glenhuon
02-11-2007, 05:55 PM
Good catch :)

Its 31mm, 40 thou under the diameter of an 1 1/4 eyepiece (32mm). I just stuck a bit of 0.5mm brass shim into the focuser to make up the difference :)

Cheers
Bill

Omaroo
02-11-2007, 06:48 PM
Brilliant! Better slightly too small than too big... :)

mill
02-11-2007, 08:07 PM
Geez you paid wayyyyyy too much for that.
I only paid the starting bid of $19.95
Patience pays off :)
It is a good camera and fits straight in a 1.25" eyepiece holder.

mill
02-11-2007, 10:51 PM
Just took it apart and $%#$^#&#$ snapped some wires off because it came out too easy.
Has anyone a pic of how the wires go?
Will be eternally gratefull.
With some i mean all :(

ballaratdragons
02-11-2007, 10:59 PM
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:lol: Yep, it sounds like a great camera ;)

mill
02-11-2007, 11:09 PM
S happens Ken :(
Ill just hope someone can help me.

ballaratdragons
02-11-2007, 11:13 PM
It sounds like a scarey thing to happen, Martin! Hope you find a wiring diagram.

citivolus
02-11-2007, 11:36 PM
For another $19.95 you can get a very good wiring diagram :rofl:

Sorry, couldn't resist.

mill
03-11-2007, 07:22 AM
:(:(:help:

Omaroo
03-11-2007, 09:37 AM
Why'd you take it apart Martin? Do you plan to cool the chip?

I'm going to get back to my cooled & modified ToUcam soon, and see how these two compare.

mill
03-11-2007, 09:56 AM
Had to get the lens assy off for guiding.
All of a sudden it came out way too easy :(

Glenhuon
03-11-2007, 10:18 AM
Pic coming shortly Mill
Here it is. Starting at the legs of the metal can (Cap or crystal, not sure which), from left to right it's Red, White, Green Black.

mill
03-11-2007, 10:29 AM
Whoohoo!!
Thank you very much :thumbsup:

Glenhuon
03-11-2007, 10:43 AM
YVW
Hope you got a good magnifying glass and a steady hand :)

Bill

mill
03-11-2007, 10:58 AM
Didn't have a drink yet :P
Thank you again :)
Soldering iron is heating up now and will post the results shortly.

mill
03-11-2007, 11:35 AM
Hmm your camera is different than mine.
On my camera the wires go on the left hand side of the cristal.

mill
03-11-2007, 01:46 PM
Working again :)
White and green had to be swapped on mine.

Glenhuon
03-11-2007, 06:08 PM
Good on yer :)
Must be a different model.

Glenhuon
03-11-2007, 06:12 PM
Been busy here too, just finished hooking up my solar powered stereo on the patio. Playing some oldies, entertaining the Mrs and the neighbours :)

mill
03-11-2007, 06:16 PM
Solar powered is good :)
We need that for our equipment at night.
Star powered?

Glenhuon
03-11-2007, 06:21 PM
Star powered, I wish :D
Have a little 3 watt one thats earmarked for charging batteries for field work. (planning ahead)

Glenhuon
03-11-2007, 06:23 PM
Time to shut down, that thunderclap was almost overhead :eyepop:

Cheers
Bill

Omaroo
12-11-2007, 10:36 PM
OK - mine arrived in the post today. Works well on both the PC's and the Macs at home. I like the focus adjustment - very sharp at full resolution.

Anyways - time to get the lens assembly off. I'll leave the rest in the original case because it is such a good fit into a 1.25" focuser as it is.

Cheers
Chris

kljucd1
12-11-2007, 11:22 PM
Hi,

I am waiting on mine to arrive, should be fun modding it at least. Seems to take decent pics as well.

Daniel...

Glenhuon
13-11-2007, 09:35 AM
You'll find there's a great range of adjustment in the filter controls too, supplied software is very good.
Have fun guys :)

Bill

Mark
14-11-2007, 07:42 AM
Just put my bid in.

snowyskiesau
17-11-2007, 11:36 PM
Well hope these Agent webcams are OK, just won mine - $33.95 including postage..
Now to see if the laptop still works.

Mark
23-11-2007, 09:05 AM
Got mine yesterday.

Now to butcher it.....

snowyskiesau
23-11-2007, 06:21 PM
Picked mine up from the post office today.
Now to work out HOW to butcher it - and still have it work afterward.

Mark
23-11-2007, 11:48 PM
Mine came apart easy-peasy. A bit of wriggling with a wee screwdriver and the whole assembly slid out. A gentle nudge to release the blob of goop holding the circuit board to the shell, and the split shell came apart and the focusing 'ring' / lens assembly was out. Toss over left shoulder.

Reassembly was somewhat more difficult as apparently three hands are required. Plug back in to test...all working. Now a dust cover to prevent blobs on ccd. Aha! Lens pops out of focusing assembly, so just screw it back in.

Cool!