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jase
23-06-2007, 08:00 PM
Well… I don’t like posting incomplete work, but I feel this has its own entity being a H-alpha image. I state that it’s incomplete in that I have not completed the acquisition of R and G chrominance data.

So, for your viewing pleasure, I present IC4628 in Ha (http://www.cosmicphotos.com/gallery/nebulas/index.php?path=./&page=0&img=IC4628%20in%20Ha.jpg&idx=0) - a faint, but very large emission nebula located deep within the tail of Scorpius.

The nebula is surrounded by beautiful open clusters which will really come out with the RGB chrominance data. At lower right is NGC6231, a rich open cluster known as the “Table of Scorpius” and shines at mag 2.6. The final composition of the image will be Ha:Ha+R:G:B which I will complete once I’m satisfied I’ve acquired sufficient data to make this image aesthetically vibrant.

Some info on this Ha image...
This was acquired over two nights (9th and 21st June) and has a total exposure time of 110minutes (just under two hours) using 10min subs. Yes, 10min subs. Typically, Ha images require much larger sub exposures to improve the S/N ratio, however this is defined by filter and telescope specifications. As the Ha filter I’m using (Custom Scientific 10nm) allows a higher penetration of energy than a 6nm or 3nm, shorter exposures are achievable. In addition to this as I’m imaging at F/5, the scope is reasonably fast – further reducing sub exposure time. The downside of the 10nm filter is that bright stars tend to bloat, though this is easily fixed in image processing. I have not done anything about the stars until I commence working with the chrominance data.

A few words on the processing this image…
Due to the dim nature of this nebula, I used MaximDL’s pixel math and multiplied all pixel values by 3. This increased the nebula brightness, but also white clipped the bright stars as they became higher than 65,500 counts. This is a compromise I’ve made and generally a good one as the stars will eventually be formed from the RGB information. Why did I increase the nebula brightness (or the entire image brightness) using pixel math? Simply, algorithms in particular, deconvolution don’t work well on dim (low count data). So, this image was then pushed through CCDSharp for two iterations of LR deconvolution. DDP in MaximDL – let MaximDL determine background level, then dropped it my 200 counts. MaximDL had the mid levels at 1800 counts – a little too high so this was dropped down to 1,200. Low pass sharpening as part of the DDP process was also applied. I feel this compliments the deconvolution step – well after blinking the images in MaximDL it appeared to make a positive improvement, and of course a negative one – noise. To reduce the noise, I used the PS colour range tool and adjusted fuzziness to only select highlights (details), then inverted the selection and ran the reduce noise filter. This cleaned the dim areas reasonably well. I could have perhaps been a little more aggressive on the noise reduction settings. I’ve discovered that many techniques I use for chrominance data simply don’t work well with Ha data. Actually, I’ve processed this image purely to represent the Ha nebulosity. I will process another Ha version when I start working with the chrominance data. The learning curve continues… (if you've read through this far, give yourself a pat on the back).

Hope you enjoy. :D All comments welcome.

glenc
24-06-2007, 06:25 PM
Thanks Jase, very nice image. Saw IC4628 the other night with a UHC filter.

Bassnut
24-06-2007, 08:33 PM
Excellent Jase, in every respect. I keep zooming in, and still it looks great. Fine detail. The Tak allows an awesome pic with the ST11k.

Cheers

iceman
25-06-2007, 06:38 AM
That's a beautiful image, Jase in a very interesting area of sky.

Very well captured with Ha. Are you going to add some RGB data?

Dennis
25-06-2007, 07:30 AM
Hi Jase

A beautiful image and many thanks for sharing your processing approach and techniques along the way. I learned something new and found it a very interesting and informative read.

Cheers

Dennis

Garyh
25-06-2007, 08:35 AM
Very nice Ha image Jase. You are a master at processing. I wish I knew half of what you must know!!!
Like that you have captured the darktower in the image as well.
Beautifuullll.
cheers

jase
25-06-2007, 11:56 AM
Thanks Glen. :) It is certainly an interesting object. I've only seen this object visually once and found it quite difficult to resolve. Of course, I wasn't using any special filters at the time. Maybe next time:shrug:


Thanks for your comments Fred. Still learning the ropes on processing Ha data. As you predominately work with narrowband data, if you've got some processing tips to share - I'm all eyes and ears mate. I found this one a more difficult object to bring out. Indeed the FSQ/STL11k is a killer combo. It an all weather imaging set up. The jet-stream can be going berserk, but at 3.52 arcsec resolution it will still produce great results. :thumbsup:


Thanks Mike. Yes, its not a commonly imaged object. I thought it would be a lot brighter, but its surface area is quite large (approx 25' x 40') and faint. RGB - certainly. I have only acquired about 30 minutes worth of the blue channel so still need to obtain R and G. I may collect some more Ha, but I will see how the Ha:Ha+R:G:B comes out. I may need to go deeper on the RGB chrominance as I don't want this data to add too much noise. Will be certain to post results once I'm satisfied. Thanks again. :)



Thanks for your comments Dennis. I enjoy sharing how I reached the final result. This adds an extra dimension for the viewer and also gives them an insight into some processing concepts. As you're probably aware, there is no right or wrong in processing and there is certainly more than one way to achieve the same result. Sure its easy just to post an image and say nothing, but if the astrophotographer puts in that bit extra to explain a few things, then it benefits all. I've certainly picked up a few pointers along the way from this great website, the only thing I can do is return this value to our community. ;)



Gary, thanks for the kind words. The darktower is an interesting object! I think "master" is pushing it as I'm far from it.;) Seriously, its just experience. You work hard to acquire your data, so its important to maximise its potential. Processing can either make or break an image. I literally spend hours processing data (and I mean hours!) trying different combinations and changing the work flow/routine to accommodate features I wish to bring out in an image. I do have a mentor who has worked in the publishing/prepress for 12 years. She has extensive knowledge of PS. I call her the "pixel princess". I'm too scared to give her any of my astro data in fear i'll be out done. :lol: Though I do have the upper hand with MaximDL's advanced tools.

richardo
25-06-2007, 05:52 PM
Top stuff Jase:thumbsup:
Love the extent of your FOV....
I haven't seen anything on this object, nor been able to image such fov's with my setup. So this to me is like being a kid at Christmas... Seeing something totally new:)
Love the dark column to the R/H top corner...... the sharp little glob and there's a Bubble neb to the main nebulosity.. all very interesting!

I love Ha as it reminds me of the days of B&W emulsion prints... something about them.....(the mystery of deep space??) Ha adds a whole lot more contrast and dimension to a HII b&W neb image..

Great write up on both the object and how you processed the image...

Scope looks to be performing most excellently as is very apparent from the pin point stars right out to the edge....

Top shelf all around, and the added RGB data will just be the icing on the cake...

Now I'll be a happy laddie if only these poxy winterish cloud bands would take a hike south:(...... typical, get new things sorted, then get nothing but TV nights.... ho hum..:whistle:

All the best
Rich

Ric
26-06-2007, 12:21 AM
That's a wonderful image Jase. I looking forward to the colour version when you collect the extra data.

Chers

jase
26-06-2007, 05:37 PM
Thanks for the comments Rich. :thumbsup: Indeed the image displays an immense amount of detail - what you'd expect though a Ha filter though. Actually, this wide field view doesn't do much justice when looking at the details.

Attached are two crops of interest - the dark tower and some small globs of dust and gas. I'm itching to get some RGB data into this image, but it won’t happen for a couple of weeks until this moon peaks and wanes. While I can process out the gradients (a pain), I'd prefer to wait until I can get some clean chrominance data. In the meantime, I'll continue to shoot some other Ha targets on my list as the moon won’t affect these. The Precise Parts FSQ/STL adapter is shipping from the US today so I'll be a much happier chappy when I can finally square the camera on the optical axis.:D Thanks again.


Thanks for your kind comments Ric. :thumbsup: Please don't hold your breath for the chrominance image - it maybe a while away.:)


Wooohhoooo - The custom made 72mm adapter is ready from Precise Parts. - Pic attached. :party:Now have to wait a few days for delivery. Finally, a clean optical axis is on the way (I hope) for the FSQ.

skeltz
03-07-2007, 09:16 PM
stunning picture jase nicely done HA brings out some nice detail doesn,t it
and the fsq106 and the stl11000 what a combo!!makes my fs102 look sad... anyway cheers mate:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Dr Nick
04-07-2007, 11:58 AM
Amazing clarity! ;)