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Gargoyle_Steve
23-06-2007, 04:48 AM
Given the large amount of rain, cloud, rain again, and that overpowering jetstream that have all plagued observers across SE Qld it was with some optimism that Ron and I decided to do some observing last Tuesday night.
:rolleyes:

The day in question was clear and the skies were blue - so far so good, compared to the previous night having been totally clouded over all night long. Vehicle packed I set out on the pleasant 1 hour drive to Ron's place, arriving around 4:30 pm to find the gate closed, and no Ron! Thinking to myself that this did not auger well I drove through to the observing field and set up my dob to cool, hoping Ron would soon arrive. Luckily he did, no more than 5 minutes later. Everything was back on track.
:thumbsup:

Equipment set up we took a few minutes to enjoy the spectacle of Venus blazing away to the west, a reasonably thin moon a little above her in the sky, and Saturn lurking even closer above the moon - this was the night that later saw the moon move to within 0.4 degrees of Saturn from our perspective, and an occultation for parts north of Australia!

I tried to capture this site with my digital camera (pretty much crap results) before we headed in to have some dinner and a chat - both very satisfying! We came outside again around 6:40pm, just a couple of minutes before my alarm went off to advise of the imminent Iridium flare. We nearly missed it as it appeared much higher in the sky than my figures from the heavens-above website predicted (my fault, co-ords I used for Ron's place were not entirely accurate) but we did manage to see the satelllite before she faded out to nothing.

And so it was that we began our observing in earnest around 6:45 pm - for what neither of us suspected would be a wonderful night, certainly one of the finest I have had since I bought my first scope around 15 months ago. It also became one of the longest observing sessions I have ever enjoyed, as we observed for 10 hours with only 2 breaks for coffee and more chat during this time.:lol:

The ONLY downside to this night was the jetstream, which was very clearly still considerable, but as we are both visual observers and don't much around with all that tedious alignment and tracking and imaging and swearing and tripping on cables ;) the jetstream was of much less concern to us. Planetary detail was not possible to gain in any more than split second glimpses, and early in the night even bright double stars such as Alpha Centauri were not "split" but rather appeared as 2 overlapping points of fuzz.
(Even this did clear up somewhat much later in the night)

The night remained cloudless, and I mean cloudless, all night long! There was zero moisture - let me say that again : Zero! My dob can be seen trickling condensation like a tap many nights by 8pm, running like a fountain by midnight. There was not a single drop, not the slightest smear of moisture felt on the body all night long. Eyepieces did not fog, not at all - despite the cool 6 degree night - neither did mirrors on our 2 reflectors. No fog rose up from the river, no moist layer 20 feet above our heads, no clouds at all.

The wind WAS cold when it gusted up, adding a few degrees chill factor to the night - this was the same night where 60km winds had been predicted, and I heard the next day that the Port of Brisbane and the Bay islands had felt gusts of up to 100km/h.

None of that mattered - we had dark skies, no moisture, wonderful transparency, and good company to observe with!

So what did we observe then? Well what else do you observe with clean dark skies, but a jetstream that makes things look fuzzy - you observe any fuzzy object you can!:doh:

Nebulae, galaxies - they fell before us one after another. I hope we can manage to reconstruct a list of objects that we viewed that night. We woudl observe solo for a while, then we would point both scopes at the same object - Ron's 16" and my 12", each armed with a 13mm ep (his a Nagler of course, mine a humble Hyperion ;) ) and compare views. Ron got out his OIII filter and we compared that against my DGM-NPB and we'd compare again.

Both armed with Argo Navis's we went from object to object on the merest whim - I think the most obscure thing we looked at was an ESO galaxy - from memory (:eyepop: ) it was ESO-98-G13. I used my An at one point somewhere after midnight to run through every Messier object visible to us in the sky - I think I observed around 40-45 of them?? Hard to remember now but there's a lot of them in Scorpius, Sagittarius, etc, etc.

We looked at Vesta earlier in the night, then again 2-3 hours later, then again even later. Star clusters, nebulae large and small, globular clusters, galaxies, planetaries - they were all ours for the taking! But from the moment that the first star in the Great Square of Pegasus rose from behind the hill we decided we were not quitting until we saw the Andromeda Galaxy rise! I don't think we realised that this would be after 4:30 am, but we stuck at it and saw Andromeda eventually rise between the trees that crest the hill to the north.

Satisfied at a fantastic night we packed it in finally - glad to be heading inside and out of the wind and cold at last, but I wouldn't have missed this night for anything!
:thumbsup:


PS : The next morning the sky was overcast, and the air cold - and we saw no sun for the next 3 days after that again. We sure picked the one right night to go observing!

[1ponders]
23-06-2007, 09:38 AM
It was a cracker of a night that is for sure Steve. I was up at the observatory at Mapleton, where it was 9 degrees inside (with 3 of use keeping the temperature up with our body heat) with about a -200 degree windchill factor outside.:cold: :cold: :cold: Man it was bitterly cold outside. Easily 25 knot SWers. As soon as I walked outside I started to shiver, and that was with 5 layers on. I thought we might lose one of the dome flaps at one stage.

But I could have reached out and grabbed the milky way it seemed so close and clear. True seeing was atrocious, but the transparency was absolutely awesome. One of the clearest nights I can remember. Made the frost bite worth it. ;)

erick
23-06-2007, 01:55 PM
Thanks Steve, great report! :)

Gargoyle_Steve
23-06-2007, 02:29 PM
Glad to hear you enjoyed reading it Eric. :thumbsup:


It was an awesome night Paul, that's for sure, and it's good to hear that were you enjoying it as well.

The best thing is that the memory of how cold it was with that evil wind will fade, but the memory of such a fantastic nights observing will stay forever!

:2thumbs:

astroron
23-06-2007, 03:15 PM
Steve as I mentioned I have had quite a few nights like that in my 15 years of living, but not with an observing buddy, it was realy good to have someone enjoying the night sky with:thumbsup: .
Great report:) I hope we have many more nights obsserving like that in the future:stargaze: :astron:
I wasn't cold as I had all the good gear on:cold: :rofl:
I hope your report inspires more people to venture up here for some good observing:thumbsup: Ron

davewaldo
23-06-2007, 04:35 PM
Well I'm sorry I missed it! I wanted to come that night but I had to work at the last minute!

I'm so glad you both had such a great night... I just wish I was there!

Oh well... next time I guess.

Good report Steve, I enjoyed reading it also.

By the title of you post Steve "Ron's Cambroon Observatory" I thought this might be about a working Bee to help build Rons new Dome.

When will that be happening Ron? I'll be there if I can!

Gargoyle_Steve
24-06-2007, 12:53 AM
The reason I titled the thread that way Dave is that Ron's place actually IS an official, approved, listed Observatory. Lots of guys say they have an observatory (lower case "o") but Ron really does have an Observatory (upper case) though he is too modest to mention it much.

from http://asa.astronomy.org.au/observatories.html


"Essential criteria if a facility is to be considered are:

a permanent 'observatory' structure housing the telescope(s)
A clear strength in one or more of the three areas:
research - astronomical data is regularly submitted to (and accepted by) an internationally recognised astronomical organisation or journal
education - a well-defined and continuing educational program (not just occasional school visits)
community use - a well-defined and continuing program program of access to the local community and/or tourists (preferably advertised; not just occasional visitors) "and.....

" Significant Amateur Society/Private Observatories
.
.
.
DO3-25 Cambroon Observatory - Mr R. Knight (Kenilworth, QLD) "

(There's only 31 sites with this status out of a previous 39 of these nationwide!)

:thumbsup:

jjjnettie
24-06-2007, 04:37 PM
I'm glad you both had such an excellent time.
I was concidering coming up myself but as you know, things are a bit pear shaped around here.
Did you catch any good meteors?

astroron
24-06-2007, 05:05 PM
:hi: JJJ yes we had a good nights observing:) we saw some very good Meteors but no spectacular Meteors:(
Steve was tracking a very high satalite for a very long time, I have forgotten the time but think it was around midnight so it must have been very high to be reflecting the Suns light:eyepop: :thumbsup:
Sorry you couldn't join us.
Maybe next time.:thumbsup: :astron: :stargaze:

jjjnettie
24-06-2007, 06:52 PM
My next Astro outing will be Astrofest.
I won't be taking my scope though, just the cameras.

Ps, they cancelled my op, it's now on the 4th of July

astroron
24-06-2007, 11:14 PM
Best of luck for the 4th of July:thumbsup:
If you want to look at anything my scope will be available:)

Gargoyle_Steve
25-06-2007, 12:53 AM
That satellite (or alien battle cruiser!!) I was tracking Ron came into my view at 02:10am (making the date the 20th). It rose near enough to vertically from the horizon and passed just to the side of the Jewel Box in the view of my 13mm Hyperion, ie 68° field of view at 115x. It was quite faint even in my 12" dob, and it was taking over a minute to pass through the field of view. I tracked it for a number of minutes and it had still only climbed to the same altitude as Beta Centauri. So far my efforts in attempting to ID this object have not been successful. Anyone with any suggestions please let me know.

Jeanette you know we all wish you the very best with your op, I'm sure it will go well, and we all look forward to hearing from you as soon as possible afterwards (when you get home from the hospital will be ok, no need to rush) ;)

You should also rest assurred that there will be a myriad of scopes at Astrofest available to you Jeanette - if you need a scope to do some imaging through come see me, the 12" Star Cannon will be at your disposal.

As an aside: your recent info re the various symptoms of bowel cancer has prompted me, I am going to be seeing my doc in the very near future to have things "checked".

I don't want to do this, I'm not looking forward to it - but I am going to do it!
The only upside I can think of at present is that once it's done I can honestly say that when I have a pain in the ass I'll be thinking of you!
:rofl:

[1ponders]
25-06-2007, 09:04 AM
Jeanette, just bring your camera, laptop and adapters. I'll have two losmandy mounts and scopes there, so you are welcome to use what ever you need. As long as Dennis isn't keeping one preoccupied with his chatter. ;) :lol:

Zubenel
28-06-2007, 05:52 AM
On ya Steve ,
I was there the previous Tuesday night and only lasted to 11.30pm:( That obsscure Galaxy you mentioned piques my interest as it is the Circinus Dwarf discovered at Mt Stromlow in 1978. We are looking through a tunnel of low dust as it is of very low galactic declination:whistle:
Ron uses the faint stars ( zero mag) in the coal sack to gauge the trasparency. The night I was there the 6.2 star was just vis. Sounds like the rest were visable for you :lol: Hope to chat up next month .Zub.

ps hi Janette

jjjnettie
28-06-2007, 09:05 AM
Hi Wes, Dave and Ann say hi.

Good onya Steve, if it's any consolation, the procedure is done while you are knocked out. The only thing that is hurt is your dignity.LOL

At the other Astrofests I spent more time looking through other peoples scopes than my own anyway. This time I'm looking forward to doing as much imaging as possible. I'm limited only to how many DVD discs I can fit in the car. Thanks for the offer of the mount. These lenses that Bert gave me have opened up a whole new side to the Gstar. You wouldn't believe what I saw last night with the moon up. Woweee. Wish I'd hooked it all up to the recorder. What a camera!