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Startrek
04-01-2025, 11:35 AM
Cloud Free Night on my mobile hasn’t updated since Thursday evening 2nd January
Yesterday and last night was clouded out until the early hours , however CFN reported clear skies from 3pm yesterday arvo onwards until today
Does Rob still operate this app ??
Cheers
Martin
bluesilver
04-01-2025, 11:44 AM
I am not sure with the Cloud Free Night Program,
But if it is of any help, i use Astronomy.tools cloud forecast and appears o far to be fairly accurate.
https://clearoutside.com/forecast/50.7/-3.52
Just put in your town or postcode up there on the top left hand corner and it should give you a good idea.
bojan
04-01-2025, 02:13 PM
I am using this one (https://www.yr.no/en/forecast/daily-table/2-2177091/Australia/Victoria/Ballarat%20North/Ballarat).
It is very good for 2-3 days in advance, less accurate for more than that.
BTW, I think most of those websites use the same data (as available to weather forecast agencies) to create their forecasts...
Startrek
04-01-2025, 02:35 PM
CFN uses Access model direct from the BOM and generally is updated every 3 hours or so
CFN is also good for 2 to 3 days in advance
I use CFN in conjunction with Weatherzone ( site specific) and is pretty accurate when comparing both every 3 hours from mid afternoon ….,
It’s been great and reliable since being transitioned to another operator.
The live satellite map is working fine but the Access G model forecast is stuck ( no update
Maybe BOM hasn’t released data to CFN ??
rdahni
04-01-2025, 04:09 PM
The Cloud Free Night service is still operating. The Bureau delivers near real-time ACCESS-G model data to the NCI, from where CFN freely downloads this model data. The NCI server is currently not responding hence ACCESS-G model forecasts are not updating in CFN. Real-time model data direct from the BoM is only available at a significant cost. Recommend Weatherwatch MetCentre for real-time ACCESS-G and ACCESS-C model forecasts (subscription required).
Startrek
04-01-2025, 04:17 PM
Thanks Robert,
You now jogged my memory regarding BOM and subscriptions
I guess we can wait for the server to respond in due course
Cheers
Martin
GTB_an_Owl
05-01-2025, 10:01 PM
i use 7Timer
see working here https://weather.byrnes.website
use "7Timer Home" Page link
geoff
Startrek
08-01-2025, 08:52 AM
CFN is back on line today
Just in time for 2 weeks of cloudy and intermittent wet weather
If find the CFN Access model layout with all the weather parameters more useful than a lot of the other weather / astro Apps that show coloured block charts or just numerical data etc…
strongmanmike
08-01-2025, 09:26 AM
I agree, it has proven quite accurate for Tinderry.
Unfortunately the ACCESS G model going down recently did stuff me up when the most recent prediction, at the time it had frozen, had it as totally clear... I was waiting for the update to make my final decision buuut meah, I gambled and went up the mountain anyway..aaaand DOH! it clouded over and even rained :rolleyes:... very annoying. Made a nice Puttanesca Pasta though and watched the cricket, then a movie... :drink:
Glad it is back up :)
Mike
OzEclipse
08-01-2025, 09:39 PM
Hi Mike,
It seems from other posts that it was the transmission of the model data, not the model itself. ACCESS G is available in the free versions of both Windy and Meteologix. One of these may get their model publication directly from BOM thus avoiding the routing block you experienced.
Joe
strongmanmike
09-01-2025, 11:50 AM
Thanks mate, yeah I gathered it was just the link to the BOM model that was down.
That Windy site looks pretty comprehensive, thanks :thumbsup:
Mike
rdahni
09-01-2025, 01:50 PM
Windy now has hourly (Premium) and 3-hourly (free) ACCESS-C model forecasts!!!
Startrek
09-01-2025, 02:31 PM
Hi Robert,
Can you provide a link to Windy ?
Windy.com seems just for outdoor daytime sports etc.. and not for Astro stargazing and imaging ??
Also it mentions only for Android and I use an Apple iPhone
Thanks
Martin
rdahni
09-01-2025, 02:43 PM
Have Windy installed on Samsung phone, but prefer Windy.com on the desktop or laptop. Just login (free), select a favorite location and Clouds and you have a forecast map and meteogram, but not as well presented as Cloud Free Night.
Geochron
09-01-2025, 03:19 PM
Windy is available on the App Store for iPhone. Just make sure that you download the Windy.com one as there is another one just called Windy.app which is less useful.
Windy is great - not only showing predicted cloud through the next 3 days at hourly resolution but also a host of other 'layers'. For example you can use layers such as 'PM2.5' (particulate matter in the atmosphere) to predict seeing and layers such as 'Dew point' to indicate when you might need to worry about dew. All these are available in a map format so that you can see changes approaching your site.
Another thing that may not be well known is that if you download the BOM app then you can set this up for your exact location and it will show predicted cloudy/clear conditions on an hourly basis for the next 3 days. I can't find anywhere on the main BOM site that provides this degree of granularity in both time and space - it is more concerned with regional trends.
Startrek
09-01-2025, 04:09 PM
Thanks Robert
Startrek
09-01-2025, 04:09 PM
Thanks Jon
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