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strongmanmike
24-03-2023, 08:19 AM
I have a couple of image acquisitions on the go, hopefully finish them eventually :rolleyes: but last Saturday it was lots of high cloud (https://pbase.com/strongmanmike2002/image/173481355/original) (it stayed like this all through the night) and in the afternoon I thought it would be a lost night...but meah, it didn't get much worse than that photo after dark, so I decided to hit something relatively bright, so it might have a chance of revealing something through all the high crud, so... Gabby got the nod :thumbsup:

Due to the inability to actually see the high cloud at such a dark location and in terms of stars and Milky Way visibility, it was a strange night of looking up at what appeared to be a pretty clear night sky but it wasn't, simulating a variable Bortle level, ranging from about Bortle 3 to 5 throughout the night, was really weird.... :shrug: in the end, I managed to put something respectable together :)

Anyway, apart from a short period around midnight, when for about an hour it dipped below 2", the seeing was not the usual steady sub 2" I have enjoyed regularly up at Eagleview to date, instead ranging from 1.9" to 2.4" across the 6hrs, so still a tad better than my previous observatory site but more mortal levels :) and I used every single 5min sub frame collected.

Also, all acquisition details are under the image but...no steroids (ie. BlurEx et al) were used in the processing of this image :P

I couldn't decide on my favourite orientation and crop...so here are two:

Gabriella Mistral - favourite crop (https://www.flickr.com/photos/strongman/52766337269/in/dateposted/) (click on image and scroll around with your cursor)

Gabriella Mistral, her profile - full frame (https://www.flickr.com/photos/strongman/52766339299/in/dateposted/) (click on image and scroll around with your cursor)

For those who don't know where the name of this nebula comes from, seems it reminded someone long ago of the head profile of the famous Chilean poet named Gabriella Mistral and I recon its a pretty good match :)

Mike

Mickoid
24-03-2023, 10:08 AM
Well despite your problem with high cloud, you wouldn't know from the result you got Mike. Very nicely done and well worth persevering through the night. I know what you mean about the sky appearing clear but on a second or third glance there's just something up there making it look a bit opaque. Good to see you posting images from your newly completed observatory. :thumbsup:

alpal
24-03-2023, 11:49 AM
Nice picture Mike,
it's good that you got some imaging time with all the clouds lately.
We've had nothing but clouds in Melbourne
and only clouds predicted for at least one more week.

cheers
Allan

Dave882
24-03-2023, 12:06 PM
Lovely image Mike- beautiful colour and stars still really nice and no bloating even give your conditions. I attempted a night imaging out of Sydney last week (B4 sky) but got fogged out. Couldn’t see it at first but funny how there’s an unmistakable smell to the air as it builds…

strongmanmike
25-03-2023, 08:12 AM
Cheers Michael, I've enjoyed the visual observations too, an 18" under a good dark sky provides great views, love it :thumbsup:



Yeah, shame about all the high cloud, with no Moon, I really wanted to hit my favourite, galaxies :D



Thanks Mate, yes, well up at Eagleview, we find ourselves "inside" any low cloud reasonably regularly. it's like I imagined the top of The Magic Far Away Tree, when I was a kid...Hmmm?..I think The Lands of Topsy Turvy and Take-What-You-Want created the most vivid visuals in my mind :P

Mike

Andy01
25-03-2023, 11:30 AM
She looks good and I really like the colour palette you have chosen.
- a bit hard to compare 1.2M with James Webb's 140M version though :lol:

strongmanmike
25-03-2023, 04:55 PM
Thanks Andy :thumbsup:... but naaah yer wong mate, Webb's focal length is actually a veeeery short 131.4m :P...but, and even with a 6.5m mirror, at infrared wavelengths, its resolution is a positively blurry 0.1" (roughly the same as Hubble at visual wavelengths I think?)...well, according to here (https://jwst.nasa.gov/content/about/faqs/facts.html) anyway..? :)

Mike

Craig_
25-03-2023, 04:59 PM
Looks really nice on the large version on the Flickr page! The IIS version is so small on my 4K monitor, three of my fingers put together are wider! Great result.

strongmanmike
25-03-2023, 05:11 PM
Thanks Craig :thumbsup: :lol:..yeah, I only ever attach a small thumbnail of an image to the thread, just so a little picture of it appears next to the thread title :shrug: Ya gotta click on the links in the thread to see the big'un's. Hmmm?...I hope everyone knows this??..:question:..and doesn't think that, that's it..?? :eyepop: :confuse3:?

Mike

TrevorW
25-03-2023, 06:10 PM
Usual good result, I see you are using Flickr, I've posted most of my images there as well :)

strongmanmike
26-03-2023, 12:34 AM
Thanks Trevor, I do prefer how some images look when displayed on Flickr, over PBase :question: and this was one of these.

Mike

kosborn
26-03-2023, 11:49 AM
Lovely image Mike. What I would do for dark, clear skies... So does your no steroids comment mean no sharpening at all,or just a tad of non-AI sharpening..?


Kevin

strongmanmike
26-03-2023, 01:14 PM
Thanks Kevin :thumbsup:... firstly, dark skies don't help that much, with narrowband imaging and there are plenty of examples of deep narrowband images taken from city skies, especially with 6nm or less band pass filters, however, it really comes into its own and once the Moon is not around, when you want to shoot for faint broadband signal, like faint tenuous dusty fields and galaxies (https://pbase.com/strongmanmike2002/image/173194871/original), tidal streams etc. Exposures can be significantly shorter for the same signal to noise ratio too and you can just get that bit deeper. Also, dark skies mean that you aren't dealing with significant gradients and rarely need to resort to gradient removal, that isn't dealt with already by your flats :thumbsup:

My comment re no steroids is just a bit of fun, I'm seeing what AI sharpening like Topaz and BlurEx is doing to images (and I don't have access to either) and I'm feeling like it's almost a bit fake or kinda a check box/slider adjust, form of cheating..?..(it's not, I know... just exaggerating for clarity). I use more traditional Lucy-Richardson deconvolution in Astroart (or not, depending on the object/field) sometimes some unsharp mask in Astroart and smart sharpening in PS CS3+...ie, just good'ol fashioned health food store supplements, not black market equine steroids :eyepop: :lol: :P It's really just a bit of humour, AI sharpening is here and here to stay but I can now clearly see when it has been used in images, it imparts a characteristic "look" you could say...or, in other words, my eye is being AI trained, so to speak, to detect when it has been used :lol: :thumbsup:

Mike

matlud
26-03-2023, 02:45 PM
Really nice Mike despite the unwelcome high cloud. Look forward to seeing what you get up to once the weather and moon cooperate. Cheers, Mat

Ryderscope
26-03-2023, 03:57 PM
Lovely work Mike and a clever use of imaging time given the conditions :thumbsup::thumbsup:

strongmanmike
26-03-2023, 10:41 PM
...Galaxiiiiies :D :thumbsup:



Thanks Rod, hope you are enjoying your northern travels?

Mike

willik
27-03-2023, 01:07 AM
HI mike
Honest opinion little bit over done but still a nice image seen better from you
Martin

Ryderscope
27-03-2023, 05:30 AM
Yep, travels are going extremely well. Been away for a week but no clear skies yet at this stage. Hoping to catch some clear skies soon.

strongmanmike
27-03-2023, 08:49 AM
OK, cheers and fair'nuf Willik, be good to know a little more detail though, like what aspect you feel is over done? The colour? Sharpening? Contrast :question:



Fingers crossed you get some clear skies mate :prey: :stargaze:

Mike

Bart
27-03-2023, 10:35 AM
Very nice Mike. Her profile is very clearly defined. Lovely work.

strongmanmike
27-03-2023, 11:02 AM
Cheers mate :thumbsup:

Mike

Startrek
28-03-2023, 12:57 PM
Mike,
Outstanding image from top of the mountain
That big rig really provides some excellent detail and resolution
Keep ‘em coming ….
Martin

strongmanmike
28-03-2023, 02:11 PM
Thanks a lot Martin :thumbsup:..I..must...re..sist..muu ust...reeesist...but one day I might have BlurEx too :sadeyes: :help: :)

Mike

Startrek
28-03-2023, 05:32 PM
You don’t need that Blur thingy
Just a bit of Decon and she’s apples with your rig and location
Your pushing through only half the atmosphere that us ground dwellers have to contend with
Cheers
M

strongmanmike
28-03-2023, 05:56 PM
...but no high cloud! :scared:

Mike :thumbsup: