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Shiraz
30-05-2022, 12:56 PM
hi
Possibly the most beautiful object of them all. Conventional processing and not particularly deep.
Updated this image using the 1600 camera.
Thanks for looking..
Cheers Ray
higher res at
https://astrob.in/full/iy3xwk/0/?real=
250 f4 Skywatcher on eq8 with asi1600
multiweb
30-05-2022, 12:57 PM
I had forgotten how good your stuff is Ray. Very high quality shot. :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:
alpal
30-05-2022, 01:15 PM
Excellent picture Ray,
it's sharp, detailed and colorful.
Some of the background looks a bit too dark.
When I checked it in Photoshop it's a bit clipped
in the dark areas at about a level of 9 out of 255 bits.
I like the dark areas to read about 20 to 26.
cheers
Allan
Dave882
30-05-2022, 01:25 PM
Fantastic shot with tonnes of detail and beautiful colour!
rustigsmed
30-05-2022, 01:48 PM
great to see an image from you again Ray. spectacular shot!
cheers
russ
Hi Allan,
I too think that Ray has produced a wonderful image (BTW Hello Ray:D) : wonderfully sharp and contrasty. I would suggest that in addition to his skills , the reason for the darker darks /contrast is Ray's wonderfully dark location.
I'm always curious so I often check on LightPollutionMap for images I like and in that location, based on 2015 World Atlas data, an SQM reading of 21.7 to almost 22 is not uncommon, both in and around the township. We can both, I would suggest, dream about that level of sky brightness in Melbourne. Homebase for me in Melbourne has an SQM of 18.7 mag/arcsec^2 (Bortle 7) or a sky brightness of 3130 µcd/m^2 which equates to about 18 times brighter than a typical ~172µcd/m^2 darksky background). In Ray's location the sky brightness is much darker than Melbourne at ~231µcd/m^2 (~Bortle 4) and is even darker within 5km out of town(Bortle 2) at ~ 180 µcd/m^2, which is very close to a perfectly dark sky of ~172µcd/m^2 darksky background. His area is ~ 13 times darker than the Melbourne data I quoted and that's why, for the same exposure, same camera/QE and without any stretching, his "darks" will always be darker - much less light pollution.
Best
JA
Peter Ward
30-05-2022, 02:21 PM
I never tire of seeing top-shelf renditions of this beautiful object :thumbsup::thumbsup:
Shiraz
30-05-2022, 03:44 PM
Hi Marc..thanks very much.
hi Allan. thanks for the advice. I had set the background so that the bulk of it was about the level that you suggest, but there is one particularly dark small region that is slightly clipped. I thought that it looked better overall with some clipping, but will go back and have another look.
thanks very much David.
G'day Russ. Thanks. Good to be posting again.
Thanks JA. no doubt about it - dark sky is an unbeatable asset. Good explanation.
Very generous of you Peter. Thanks.
thanks everyone for the comments. Regards Ray
Startrek
30-05-2022, 04:32 PM
Ray ,
That’s a really nice M20
Detail and colour spot on
Well done !!
I captured some data on it last night , haven’t imaged M20 in Sydney for nearly 2 years , see how it turns out under all that Bortle 8 muck
Cheers
Martin
Bassnut
30-05-2022, 04:46 PM
Wow that really pops with the bright stars and colour. You got a lot of deep OII and detail too, well done!.
Addos
30-05-2022, 05:33 PM
some nice sharp colours you got both in the stars and the dso. great job!
AdamJL
30-05-2022, 07:45 PM
Goodness me, that is a gold standard for this object. Beautiful!
Retrograde
31-05-2022, 09:58 AM
Excellent Ray - the Hi res version is sweet!
strongmanmike
31-05-2022, 11:44 PM
Hi there Ray :hi: haven't heard from you in a while..? Good to have you back.
Excellent, a most beautiful Trifid that, with superb colouring, you have showcased the subtle browns, teals, greens and the whites, as well as the usual blues, in the reflection/absorption cloud around the central magenta Ha/Hb flower, very few images of this beauty nail the balance between them all, this well, a great image.
Mike
gregbradley
01-06-2022, 07:29 AM
A beautiful Trifid Ray.
The short exposure strategy strikes again!
Greg.
Shiraz
01-06-2022, 05:27 PM
thanks Martin. appreciated.
thanks Fred. tried to keep it a bit on the colourful side without going overboard, so thanks for the comment.
Thanks Adam. enjoyed processing this one.
Thanks Adam. appreciated.
Yeah Pete, it only just holds together at highest res, but still ok. Thanks.
Hi Mike. Long long story. Short version is that the best I could do for a while was capture data for later processing. Thank heavens for SGPro and the EQ8 being happy to spend the odd nights doing just that.
Now starting to process the backlog and having fun finding out just what is there.
Thanks for your comments on the image. I agree that the subtle colours around the magenta are something to be careful of - I tried to do that.
Hello Greg. Thanks. short exposures and low noise cameras can do OK.
Thanks everyone for the kind comments Regards Ray
strongmanmike
01-06-2022, 06:02 PM
Sounds like what I have to learn to do with my new setup :scared2:
Just had another look at the full res image, its a cracker mate, stunningly well processed. If people haven't looked at the full res version at Astrobin they should! :thumbsup:
Mike
Shiraz
02-06-2022, 04:06 AM
Just had a look at your new setup. Like wow! you will probably need to go full automated?
If any use, I use SGpro in semi automated mode. set it up for one target in the east and then let it follow that till it gets 1- 2 hours past the past the meridian, when the seeing usually collapses.
Auto refocus about every 12-15 minutes (quick with cmos) and phd generally will deal with minor clouds. My jobs after setting it running on dusk are to listen for rain and to shut it all down in the morning.
I guess the point is that there are useful intermediate stages on the way to full automation.
thanks Mike. that's very generous.
strongmanmike
02-06-2022, 10:12 AM
Agreed, I'll likely do it is stages, just so I don't get too freaked out :lol:
Like a really yummy plate of food, a great image really excites me :party: :screwy:
Mike
graham.hobart
02-06-2022, 04:51 PM
super nice Ray. The big version is a feast and very sharp.
codemonkey
03-06-2022, 03:22 PM
Great to see you back at it again, Ray. Awesome work, as usual!
Shiraz
09-06-2022, 03:05 PM
Cheers Mike
Thanks very much Graham
Hi Lee. Thanks very much
Thanks folk.
Cheers Ray
Ryderscope
09-06-2022, 08:53 PM
Thanks for the opportunity to tour an excellent M20 Ray.
marc4darkskies
10-06-2022, 08:51 AM
You don't realise what a beautiful image this is until you look at the full res version. Great work Ray! :thumbsup::thumbsup:
Shiraz
10-06-2022, 07:35 PM
Hi Luke. Thanks very much
Hi Rodney. Thanks for your comments.
Hello Marcus. appreciate your comment and will change the link to point directly at the high res.
Thanks folks. Cheers Ray
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