View Full Version here: : James Webb telescope lifted atop its launch rocket
Hans Tucker
15-12-2021, 09:24 AM
https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-59632757
multiweb
15-12-2021, 10:35 AM
Woohoo! Go Webb! :party:
Saturnine
15-12-2021, 10:58 AM
This is certainly good news, only 1 week to go to launch.
Hans Tucker
22-12-2021, 05:09 AM
Well we are just 2 days out
https://jwst.nasa.gov/content/webbLaunch/countdown.html
strongmanmike
22-12-2021, 10:42 AM
What better date than Christmas Day!...double time and a half $ for all the team members :lol:
Hans Tucker
22-12-2021, 11:50 AM
The highly anticipated launch of NASA’s $10 billion James Webb Space Telescope has been delayed yet again.
The massive telescope is now set to take off on Christmas Day, December 25, with a launch window between 7:20AM ET and 7:52AM ET - the previous date was December 24.
Live coverage will be shown on NASA's TV channel and website beginning Saturday at 6AM ET.
AdamJL
22-12-2021, 03:59 PM
There are 8 launch dates until mid-Jan I think.
What's the reason for the latest delay?
Hans Tucker
22-12-2021, 06:01 PM
High winds at Europe’s Spaceport on French Guiana is to blame for the current delay but there is also a reported intermittent communication problem.
astronobob
24-12-2021, 09:40 PM
COUNT-DOWN,,
1 Day,, 1hr and 40'ish minutes from the time of this posting,,,
https://jwst.nasa.gov/content/webbLaunch/countdown.html?fbclid=IwAR2TYoq-HNZSrxlTjNhrZvOYupOmk5nfhJzfnRLty4S wEka2rNh0Y74JCII
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Live Stream, link ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVKzZ89N2Ks
Thanks for the link, very exciting….finally!
Thunderbirds are go go go
Wow, over 700 different things have to unfold. I thought the mars crane was amazing, this is insane.
Wishing all the best!
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=james+web+unfolding+video&docid=608025643979337846&mid=54FE5EEE87F8DF268DFD54FE5EEE87F 8DF268DFD&view=detail&FORM=VIRE
go to 4:15 for the unfolding sequence
astronobob
25-12-2021, 11:20 PM
:bowdown:
AdamJL
25-12-2021, 11:26 PM
Amazing, GO WEBB!!!!
astronobob
25-12-2021, 11:29 PM
T + 8 mins,,, Flight Nominal , , , :prey:
AdamJL
25-12-2021, 11:30 PM
main stage separation, this is incredible
alpal
25-12-2021, 11:49 PM
Great liftoff - I saw it on ABC 24.
The word nominal has no meaning I can find in terms of rockets:
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/nominal
What do they mean?
astronobob
25-12-2021, 11:49 PM
Awesome Launch - perfection from Ariane 5 :thumbsup:
lazjen
25-12-2021, 11:53 PM
Separated and on its way. Awesome work so far.
astronobob
25-12-2021, 11:54 PM
Take it up with NASA,,,
Freedom of speach :rolleyes:
alpal
25-12-2021, 11:59 PM
It has no meaning in English for rockets yet they said it
about 10 times on the TV broadcast.
Saturnine
26-12-2021, 12:02 AM
Wahoo, Perfect liftoff and ride into orbit and off to its lagrange point. Has been a long wait and now another wait for all its systems to be operational.
astronobob
26-12-2021, 12:19 AM
Agree, using the best available Rocket which has produced yet another flawless Launch :thumbsup:
Now its all left to James-Webb manufacturers,,, :eyepop:---:whistle:---:eek:-------:scared3:
astroron
26-12-2021, 12:30 AM
It means Normal.
No anomalies.
It has been used for launches for a couple
of decades or more.
The people who it effects know what it means
Cheers:thumbsup:
alpal
26-12-2021, 12:34 AM
Really - I have been following the space program since the Apollo landings on the Moon
and I've never heard it used before.
AdamJL
26-12-2021, 12:43 AM
nominal just means normal.
And it's used in science a lot.
A lot!
sunslayr
26-12-2021, 12:52 AM
Anyone else spot the JWST in W.A skies tonight? Blew me away when I spotted it while I was looking at Leonard. Should have posted here first but was too mesmerised :)
whatever, step one is successful, its in orbit and on its own, go, go, go
if you ever view a space x launch, maybe 20 or 30 per year (soon to be a few hundred per year), you hear it a lot
alpal
26-12-2021, 07:20 AM
I thought I had watched plenty of those launches yet
I don't remember ever hearing the word nominal.
Maybe I have Alzheimer's?
From a google search:
The relevant definition of “nominal” is, “as named.” Nominal, in this technical context, does not mean “normal.” It means as planned, as named, or as written (in the mission plan). Often, it means “within acceptable or expected boundaries.”
multiweb
26-12-2021, 08:24 AM
Such a relief it was a good launch and it's on its way. Ariane is a reliable launcher and the site location closer to the equator gives that little extra boost for really heavy payload. Still you never know until it goes up without any issues. Now to the long trip and unfolding phase.:thumbsup:
astroron
26-12-2021, 10:31 AM
Ya must have been asleep or getting a beer or two or three.;)
Happy Christmas.
Cheers:thumbsup:
astroron
26-12-2021, 10:36 AM
You answered your own question.:D
Cheers:thumbsup:
wavelandscott
26-12-2021, 11:57 AM
I borrowed this from Heidi B. Hammel’s Facebook post…
I had to shrink it to fit but I hope you get the idea
Camelopardalis
26-12-2021, 12:14 PM
Another flawless launch from arianespace :thumbsup:
Shame it was cloudy :lol:
astronobob
26-12-2021, 01:21 PM
Awsome Info, Thnx for posting, I wonder if NASA will have live updates on each action staged on the days performed ?
Could be good updates to this thread and keep it all together for the record :question:
The JWST has been Born,, to grow into a fully fledge Telescope to help explain the Birth of the Cosmos
Time Line of events to happen - Counting Live distances etc : https://jwst.nasa.gov/content/webbLaunch/whereIsWebb.html
:atom: :earth:
Hans Tucker
05-01-2022, 10:42 PM
Sunshield Successfully Deploys on JWT :thumbsup:
https://www.nasa.gov/press-release/sunshield-successfully-deploys-on-nasa-s-next-flagship-telescope
Hans Tucker
06-01-2022, 01:35 PM
James Webb Telescope successfully deployed it secondary mirror support structure. Another milestone achieved :thumbsup::thumbsup:
Hans Tucker
09-01-2022, 06:29 PM
Final Stage Completed ... The Team fully deployed JWT's 21-foot, gold-coated primary mirror,
https://www.nasa.gov/press-release/nasa-s-webb-telescope-reaches-major-milestone-as-mirror-unfolds
astronobob
19-01-2022, 12:13 PM
A couple of Mirror segments having allignment problems :shrug:
Scott Manley,, Video link has been copied at the time of mirror segment issue,,
https://youtu.be/DaCdVJ7ghk8?t=742
Hans Tucker
19-01-2022, 12:23 PM
Wow .. they launched with known non 100% functioning hardware. Given this will go where even Scotty can't carry out a repair there is a lot of faith on their suppose fix for the problem.
astronobob
19-01-2022, 01:07 PM
Yeah eh,, Scott mentions that a Sensor had failed, not sure if only one or more, considering two mirrors having a problem, , though also need to know where these sensors are and what they actually do apart from the obvious.
I'd think they be behind each mirror segment measuring each mirrors position, distance etc,,, Apart from that, its also mentioned that the motors that move the mirrors are all working which is a good thing for sure,, so maybe the plan of arranging all the other mirrors into locaton 1st and then try moving the two concerning segments manually or more like overiding the sensor mechanisms and attempt to allign these two by trail and error ?
Just a thought and my Bob's worth ?
multiweb
19-01-2022, 01:35 PM
Seems ok.
multiweb
19-01-2022, 08:19 PM
Cool 3D visualisation of Lagrange points.
https://youtu.be/7PHvDj4TDfM
https://youtu.be/7PHvDj4TDfM
Hans Tucker
19-01-2022, 09:35 PM
A3 & A6 still have to null to be ok.
Kevin_Hall
19-01-2022, 09:59 PM
Have anybody heard of LUVOIR misson? I've found a video about this mission (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YH_w5StGoEY&t=2s), interesting to watch. No sooner had they launched JWST than they started to make another huge telescope :lol:
Though as far as I know it's now only a concept, but I'm eager to see what it could show us
AdamJL
19-01-2022, 10:58 PM
LUVOIR looks fascinating
I like the idea of distributed telescopes though. Just like how Webb and LUVOIR are made up of multiple mirrors, and how the Square Kilometre Array is distributed over multiple countries, it'd be great to have a telescope system comprised of swarms of cameras that fly out to some huge distance. Multiple AU away. Spread out over the solar system.
I remember reading about such a system in a science fiction book by Alastair Reynolds where they were able to image exoplanets and see terrain with it.
lots of cheaper satellites, lower cost?
astronobob
20-01-2022, 05:57 PM
Some screen shots,, All mirrors out to required positions, obvoisely micro adjustments needed when initial imaging tests are done at a later date :thumbsup:
Roughly 95% distance achieved considering timing,,
And a pic of the Filter Wheel for added interests :eyepop:
Thanks Bob, that filter wheel is very cool!
I found a (slightly) higher res version...
https://supernova.eso.org/static/archives/exhibitionimages/original/0806_filter_wheel.jpg
(Edit: Trying to find a description of what each filter is/does)
AdamJL
20-01-2022, 07:16 PM
But are they using native drivers or ASCOM :p
Steffen
21-01-2022, 08:34 AM
Is that some kind of focussing mask on the bottom right?
astronobob
22-01-2022, 09:24 PM
A Bartinov Mask Steffen ;) hehe,,
Pic attached showing names of each Filter in the Wheel - from Link 4 below
Fun Fact : JWST has an effective f/number of f/16.67, and an effective focal length of 131.4 m.
Have found some other interesting info on this Miri Filterwheel -->
1st; is an 'Animation' of the Light travelling through the MIRI Imaging System, quite remarkable,,,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfG5wqsM3Bk
2nd; YouTube showing the Filterwheel moving through its Positions 'Testing'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fu7TH8FWmoc
3rd; PDF (Particularly Slides 4-8 showing some of the Corongraphic filters used,,
http://ircamera.as.arizona.edu/MIRI/MIRI_coronagraph.pdf
4th; MIRI Filters and Dispersers
https://jwst-docs.stsci.edu/jwst-mid-infrared-instrument/miri-instrumentation/miri-filters-and-dispersers
julianh72
26-01-2022, 09:45 AM
An image of JWST in orbit at L2 has been captured:
https://www.virtualtelescope.eu/2022/01/25/james-webb-space-telescope-a-new-image-24-jan-2022/
All it takes is 300 second exposure on a 17" telescope, for anyone wanting to replicate the feat!
AdamJL
26-01-2022, 09:53 AM
Great overview of the mirror assembly
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cUp0AEwV2w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cUp0AEwV2w
julianh72
28-01-2022, 10:35 AM
The "Where is Webb" website (or is that "webbsite"? :lol: ) has added a rather cool 3D viewer, based on the "NASA Eyes" platform:
https://webb.nasa.gov/content/webbLaunch/whereIsWebb.html
Sunfish
28-01-2022, 02:02 PM
Nominal,
Baseline of expected values as in nominal value or nominal dimension.
Could be a little bit more or could be a little bit less than expected.
But generally within acceptable limits.
Kevin_Hall
04-02-2022, 12:46 AM
JWST has reached its destination - L2.
Its first target will be a star in the constellation of Big Bear - HD84406.
https://www.space.com/james-webb-space-telescope-first-target-star
astronobob
04-02-2022, 06:12 PM
In the past day or so, for the first time, photons from distant stars traveled through the entire Webb Telescope
https://www.space.com/james-webb-space-telescope-alignment-begins
Alignment procedure: https://blogs.nasa.gov/webb/2022/02/03/photons-incoming-webb-team-begins-aligning-the-telescope/
strongmanmike
06-02-2022, 10:36 PM
Yeah..?..similar to using Catseye tools :face:...both iterative at least :P
Mike
astronobob
08-02-2022, 01:20 PM
Iterative at the very least ;) and one can-not train-automate a catseye, :question:,,, :P
julianh72
12-02-2022, 08:16 AM
I just came across this video which explains the design and operation of the mirror actuators. It's a very ingenious design, which uses a single stepper motor and drive train for both coarse and fine positioning, and a combination of gearing and flexure to obtain ~2 nanometre precision. (The presenter has built a working replica with a commercially-available stepper motor and a 3D printer.)
JWST Mirror Actuators are AMAZING!: https://youtu.be/5MxH1sfJLBQ
alpal
12-02-2022, 08:46 AM
This picture is on CNN showing the result so far of the alignment.
You can see the single star appearing 18 times from the 18 segments
which is of course before full alignment.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/220211113911-02-james-webb-telescope-images-0211-exlarge-169.jpg
The full article also shows a mirror selfie:
https://edition.cnn.com/2022/02/11/world/james-webb-space-telescope-selfie-images-scn/index.html
cheers
Allan
jakob
12-02-2022, 08:50 AM
Very impressive! Thanks for sharing.
:eyepop::thumbsup:
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