I hate this censorship !

[Bobbyoutback]

I read many articles from outlets overseas , when i tried to read this one
I rhttps://thedailycoin.org/2019/07/30/the-uk-is-about-to-get-a-lot-more-cultural-enrichment-video/
The video had been banned to Australians ' yep we are not allowed to see this :shrug:

Why ? because it might effect how we think about certain illegal immigrant cultures .
I did get to read this using a VPN , but the point is who controls our freedom of choice ?

How stuffed are we if this sort of censorship is not challenged , the suppression of truth is both poisonous & destructive .

Anyway In the meantime get used to the BS- platitudes of our media .

Bobby

Try here : https://thedailycoin.org/2019/07/30/the-uk-is-about-to-get-a-lot-more-cultural-enrichment-video/

[Ukastronomer]

what this

https://youtu.be/p1W-oSAkDRA

[Bobbyoutback]

Yep this is it , shame they stop Aussies reading stuff , this is mild ?

Regards
Bobby

[Ukastronomer]

You want to be grateful you live in an open society and not North korea or China, Russia, UAE, Angola, DRK etc etc etc

[xelasnave]

Hi Bobby

Don't get upset.

Firstly are you sure that "they" banned the video? And secondly who are "they". I have often found that there are more than one group labeled "they".

Governments love more people coming into a country and for good reason.

More people means greater prosperity strangley even if folk coming in all go onto social security...and don't really fit culturally or economically..we think it costs us more but not really.. when you don't operate under the Gold Standard and can create more more as I think we can even in this country more problems more people more fear etc is a good thing.

At a local level folk think immigration is always a problem and blame immigrants being responsible for pretty much any negative they perceive and sure there may be some justification but often their blame game becomes perceived as a negative and sometimes there could be a little truth in that...because the sad reality is in this country we need more people and when I say we I don't mean you and me or anyone you may meet ..by we I mean the market economy that we run upon. It cares only for numbers..more numbers..higher numbers...all business depends on their survival on next years figures being bigger than this years figures...well the turnover and profit figures. No boss employee or shareholder wants less next year and so the game is all about getting bigger numbers which finally boils down to more people...and it does not matter to the system what problems arise ..in fact more problems becomes a good thing because that means more work for agencies yet to be created.

Honestly there is no need to worry about anything it's all part of a grand plan that actually does not exist other than in the minds of folk who think there isnt or is but notwithstanding that don't believe anything that causes an initial response of fear or hatred or admiration and approval as really what can we be sure about other than even with all the facts we rarely know everything and moreover that we don't know what we don't know.
I hope that I have cleared up your concerns.
Alex

[xelasnave]

Further...fear often comes from relying upon generalisations of situations whereas all we need look at are specific events that may cause that generalisation and in so doing we can realise that although various groups are perceived by some as bad or participating in behaviour deemed unacceptable it usually is not the group at fault but single individuals often many in number who are actually at fault and so we can't find fault with any religious group or cultural group or any group at all irrespective of them individually being delusional as one individual does not represent a group even if he holds exactly the same views as everyone else in the group...or in other words any criticism of one should not extend to the group as within any group there will be some who give the group a bad name when that particular individual acts badly ... so don't judge say the Catholic church by a few folk who do horrible things which are not condonned by the group but nevertheless fails to act to address the situation satisfactorily in the view of reasonable folk because many individuals in the church does so many good things and are unable to accept that they really need to join another group if they really are sincere about doing good deeds...but as I always say and have said many times before but perhaps on this occassion it be more appropriate than earlier occassions...when the Sun sets in the saucer of milk the cat will sing to the cuckoo clock...sums it up nicely I think.
Alex

[sheeny]

The video link runs for me.


I don't why you can't see it. It's not censorship.


Al.

[bojan]

It works for me as well..

[xelasnave]

I guess I did not say it worked for me.
Alex

[casstony]

If we have access to ABC TV we should be ok. We can see the Chinese squashing protests and the Australians imprisoning refugees.

There's all the good stuff too (Costa, Micallef, Anh, etc) but they also shine a light on bad behaviour without fear or favour.

[fsphotography]

Well said Alex.
Frank.

[el_draco]

Absolutely ZERO problems are solved in the long term by increasing population. Carrying capacity of planet Earth 1.9 billion :rolleyes:

[xelasnave]

The problem I point to is that essentially most all of the world economies are a market system which demands growth ...as you observe such growth won't do us any good long term...it's like blowing up a Ballon with the only motivation being that you want a bigger Ballon...the market economy can't not really say oh we need to be efficient let's require car manufactures to produce only three models...no no no think of the investors the bosses and the workers in their little part of existence...tell someone else to cut back.
The alarming thing is there is not answer that I can see...only catastrophe can help out...we are like rabbits that breed up and destroy a patch such that their numbers are culled via starvation...one would like to think we could do better but I suspect we can't...clearly the world perhaps could be a better place if population was reduced...but who will do that..the Chinese were the only ones to have a go at it...
And I still think a market economy is perhaps the best we can come up with.
Alex

[bojan]

Well, there were others, but they failed.. perhaps there haven't had big enough numbers (and culture) to persist in something like this, and of course there was huge resistance from the rest of the world (or, should I say, resistance from owners of capital).

BTW, have you seen the movie "Elysium"?

[xelasnave]

I have not seen the movie but I googled it and get the idea..perhaps close to the current situation except Elysium could be called Dubai.

When the world Government is in place I hope they implement human husbandry and only let humans that have desirable qualities breed.
My idea would be only champion cage fighters with a degree is all the sciences as a selection base line :)
Alex

[Nikolas]

worked for me as well

[Bobbyoutback]

Well Alex I can see your point regarding the males but will the females need the same qualifications :question:

Bobby.

[xelasnave]

Bobby I was talking about the females. I expect that fathering would start via an annonomous male doner with a background in law, real-estate and astronomy who is kind and has a natural beard.
https://youtu.be/IReosLcMunE

Alex

[AstralTraveller]

I thought you had dodgy knees..... or hips or something?

[Renato1]

ISP's or whoever blocking stuff on the internet for Australians is all pretty silly - since we all have access to free VPN, at

https://www.vpnbook.com/freevpn

Cheers,
Renato

[Bobbyoutback]

OK then I'd like to volunteer also , just let me know when when I need to start growing the beard :D

Thanks
Bobby

[xelasnave]

I have had an operation on my back to fix something that presumably occurred in my last arm wrestle but I still experience pain from the nerves just not being the same ... oh I see what you mean I have certain things in common with the ideal doner ... mere co incidence.. but who would have thought.
Maybe I should get rid of the beard so no one gets any wild ideas.
Alex

[Oddity]

Also worked for me.

I presume that's enough data points to mean it's probably not censorship.... :shrug:

[AndyG]

Not one person here has mentioned which ISP they are with.

There are sites I can access at home with TPG, that I cannot with Telstra, or Optus at other locations. To access these I need to use VPN to tunnel back to home.

Indeed, OP's videos works at home on TPG, but not on my Phone via Telstra 4G. If I enable my VPN back to home (thus running through TPG), the video works on my phone.

The censorship appears subtle. Correct me if I'm mistaken.

[N1]

Like the dry food supply offers. Sounds delicious. This dude is onto something.

[xelasnave]

Perhaps doomsday preppers.
Bobby is a that where you get your faith in silver?
Preparing for the future is a good idea I xpect but some preppers are really over the top.
I listened to a guy who buys a packet of cartridges every time he goes shopping...not for his printer but for his rifle...one guy had something like 250,000 rounds stockpiled... He must think he is a bad shot I guess.
Alex

[N1]

I think there would be a market for living in style post apocalypse, where people eat real food instead of dehydrated crap, and live in houses instead of bunkers. The tech is probably there to make it happen so bring it on I say.

[LewisM]

You want to be grateful you don't live in the US, Australia, UK, Canada, New Zealand.

Oh, wait...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1ZOteqX9ls

[N1]

Some Kiwis found the obvious fix to the problem
(http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/394074/Three-arrested-after-spy-base-attack)

[Bobbyoutback]

Yes that's part of it Alex , when paper, digital & crypto moneys fail I'll need real stuff others will barter for .

Imagine what you can swap for a roll of toilet paper when the bad times hit !

Bobby :)

[FlashDrive]

Not that it's any big deal .... when I go out I have Bluetooth and Wireless turned off at all times.

I will only use wireless on the Phone at home running thru my Modem for updates only.

I've read articles that if you go into major shopping centers ( with your Bluetooth on ) ... there are devices that track you from shop to shop, so they can get a ' profile ' of what people are interested in.

I never ever ' log ' into free WiFi either offered by Business / Shopping Centers / MacDonalds etc etc

When I go away with my Laptop, I have a Portable WiFi Dongle that I log into, has WPA Security.

I try to make it very hard for those ' Scammers ' etc who try to make my life and others miserable.

Col...

[xelasnave]

How will you barter with the guy with 250,000 rounds of ammunition?

As to toilet paper check out how the Romans managed:)

Alex

[Oddity]

Fascinating. It works on both iiNet and Kogan (which I believe is Vodafone network).

I care little for the content but I am annoyed by the concept of ISP blocking. If Australia has a subtle equivalent of the great firewall of China then I agree that we have a serious problem in our country.

[N1]

By administering just one piece of silver where it really hurts

[Bobbyoutback]

Alex Iv'e got enough mates who are licensed shooters , so I'm covered that way .
I prefer toilet paper to the sponges the Romans used :)

Have Fun
Bobby .

[FlashDrive]

Gum leaves aren't too bad :lol:

[Tropo-Bob]

Modern medicine is responsible for the population explosion. Just look at the number of survivors that have had triple bypasses. Fifty years ago they would all have died. My Dad lived another 12 years after his bypass. My best mate's father is still alive, some thirty years later.

I had tinnitus as a baby. I would have died in my first month without modern medicine. The last person I told this to was similar, as she was a blue baby.

Nature will probably let loose with an antibiotic resistant superbug to restore the balance and that may lead to the greatest natural cull since the Black Plague.

Oh well, we all got to go sometime. Personally though, I would rather hang around longer than the biblical lifespan of three score and ten.

And so it is with everyone. Africa's human population is expected to increase from 1 billion to 4 billion, just by increasing their lifespans to be similar to those currently experienced by Western Populations.

[AstralTraveller]

Bracken - the real stuff - soft, absorbent with an earthy perfume. You can get by with Common False Bracken but it is a bit abrasive for delicate skin.

[xelasnave]

I was wondering could you eat grass...I expect if you cooked it to aid digestion one may survive on it...
alex

[phomer]

It may still be censorship; just personal :rofl:.


Paul

[Bobbyoutback]

I've eaten Warrigal greens , cooked up just like spinach .
Has a better flavour :thumbsup:

https://tuckerbush.com.au/warrigal-greens-tetragonia-tetragonioides/

[xelasnave]

Yes I have eaten cooked weeds and very nice ...what they were I don't know...I might try cooking some grass and see what happens...one needs to be prepared if you don't have a stack of silver and no guns or ammo:P

Alex

[Bobbyoutback]

Getting back to the original complaint , I do notice that those videos seem to reappear later ' on a past page that few would then see .

My ISP is Telstra , who I think are pathetic !

When I contact them on any problem .
I get overseas puppets who I have difficulty understanding & can't seem to comprehend what I try to tell them . :rolleyes:




Bobby

[Oddity]

That explains a fair bit. When it comes to Telstra I often find it useful to apply Hanlon's Razor.

[Bobbyoutback]

That will not help in reality ( Hanion's Razor ) :P

I then have to use Aussies to fix things , Telstra are useless ' the offshore support are hopeless every time .

Alex , There are some good books about bush tucker I have read . you Sir are worth saving when the 4 horse men return :)

Bobby

[dikman]

Optus must use the same no-help desk!! Atrocious people to deal with.


Sometime ago there was a firearms-related video that some members on a hunting forum were complaining about being blocked. It was eventually worked out that the blocking was selective, depending on your ISP. Telstra and Optus were blocking it but most others weren't.

[pgc hunter]

Oh yeah dealing with Optarse is about as fun as getting stabbed in the eye. A while ago I was over charged for some 3rd party crap that I never applied for nor even knew about. Took about 3 months and 10 back and forths being bounced around between departments before they finally managed to resolve the issue :mad2:

Another time I wanted to upgrade my plan, and it was "online only". Tried it online, but ofcourse that didn't work. So called them up, and after being treated to 1.5 hours worth of refusals from multiple departments all spewing the old "we can't do that because it's online only" rhetoric, being put on hold, etc etc I finally got my new plan. :mad2:

[xelasnave]

It's change and one needs to not become critical as that only makes you grumpy and grumpy is a condition of old age one must manage.

And it is amazing how a good attitude gets you thru these new business strategies we label as annoying.

Once I needed to get some paper tax forms for my Dad and now you just can't pick them up at the post office you must call and ask for some to posted out.

Well Dad goes on as to how that is such a bad thing ...all it is change...a good change...the push is to have everyone lodge on line which is a great way to handle the situation.

I have convinced him that the benefit to him is the Government is trying to save money and are doing so by implementing better and more efficient proceedures...his reply...it's all about empire building...do you see the problem????..when we get old our tendancy is to criticise even the good things no matter what...my brother in law won't have a mobile phone for a heap of old man grumpy reasons...so sad he denies himself going to Stanford University for one..please always look at the bright side and let the grumpy old men pick fault if that is all they can do...also I like that old saying...there never was a statute erected to honour a critic.

And when you have this bright attitude folk become more helpful..funny that.
Alex

[JeniSkunk]

In this case, Alex, I think your dad and BIL are correct.
Change against the public to reduce service and add more profit to the already very wealthy.
Change done so it improves things and doesn't further disadvantage the already disadvantaged is how things should be done. Unfortunately, what usually happens is the sort of problem your dad runs into. Change that makes it harder and more difficult to do ordinary things needed to live. Change that harms and not helps. It's cutting costs, without those savings and their benefits being ploughed back into an improvement in service.

A first rate example of such negative change, self-scan checkouts at Colesworth. As customers, those corporations now expect us to WANT to do the job of their PAID employees, with us not receiving even a percentage of the Staff Discounts granted to their paid employees for shopping at their stores.

Your BIL is also right in thinking that you shouldn't have to have a mobile phone. You shouldn't have to be instantly contactable 24/7, but society has trained itself to expect, and now demand it.
Wanting a phone to just be a phone. PREPOSTEROUS, STUPID, and LUDDITE attitude!.
Not be on Facebook, and/or Twitter, and/or Instagram is looked on as an anathema. If you are not on them then you are a social outcast.
Changes like that harm, more than help as they destroy the very notions of privacy and solitude.

[bojan]

I tend to agree (and yes, I am grumpy old man sometimes..)
The latest occasion wnen I got really grumpy was when I was switching to NBN.. I hreatened my provider (iinet) I will dump them if they do not provide me with re-connection without any cost and effort from my side, because I did not want nor I initiated that change anyway, ADSL was working perfectly OK for me..

They obliged... but I guess I was a rare example...

[xelasnave]

Hi Jenifur
First let me tell you the news..the lady who travels to Brisbane and back, firstly had a car accident but recovered but now is not talking to me...in any event she is out of the picture as to doing either of us a favour...I just would like to see you get a bit of dark sky is all.

Anyways I meant to send you a message so your reply here woke me up. But I hope she comes around and we can get my plan back on track. She is a caring person really and that is why I felt we could get her to get up a dark site viewing session..she lives in my old place and it is as dark as you could want.

I got a van and getting in and out is a performance as I am sure you can appreciate and made the mistake of walking around the other night without my stick at least but with the camera and you guessed it big fall..no injuries to me or the camera..so stick always at least.

Anyways back to your great post.

I think as a generalisation I can agree with your generalisations but change is what it is ..it arrives with benefits and disadvantages...things will be different that is a distinct quality of change.

I guess I no longer see the phone as a phone..but that's because I am in contact with so few people ..er in all only 6 ..one ex, two daughters Dad and two mates...but for me I like you tube so much..learn stuff mainly..how to make moonshine for one..listen to rain recordings...go to Stanford University to listen to GR lectures which I think is really something..a mug like me attending lectures at Stanford..that is a privilege in my book...face book..I felt the same but I joined about two maybe three months ago because there is a group there that discusses Asiair wireless thing for scope and camera management while laying in bed with my tablet...that only but I found out you can use it for video linking which I liked because I was able to show Dad one of the miracles of our modern world... One mate is on it and he sends stuff which I don't look at ... But it's how you use it..it is different to what I thought is so far as it's more private..at least the way I do it..I don't post photos of my lunch there..I post that here:D.
I guess the message I am trying to send is not to let change upset you and let it take more away ... Moreover you can't change change:)...I did not know about the Coles thing...I started going back to Mac Donalds a while back after avoiding them for a long time to find they have screens that you put in your order...at first that annoyed me cause folk lose their jobs and I like to see a real person when ordering...and they are trying to train up the customers..in a very sneaky way...you go in and there is an assistant to help you use the screen because the cash register is not working..sure..it's that BS that ticks me off but I can see certain benefits for customers ..less waiting time for example but my response certainly is..I don't like this change and it's only benefit is the bottom line...well MacDonalds is off my list again...they are such poor value for money...now he little cafe gives twice as much for the same money and just so much better food.
But at the root of all our problems is the fact it is a market economy..it must use more, employ less people, increase dividends and continually expand..a recipe for problems..a lot of folk have to lose and eventually it must collapse but I can't think of another system so I am not going to worry and just be as happy as I can before everything ends.
Thanks for your input.
I hope you are doing ok.
Alex

[Nikolas]

Bobby my isp is telstra and I had no issue watching that video, I'm not sure what the issue was or is on your connection but it definitely is not an isp issue
You are right about their support though they are terrible I had a minor issue and it took 3 hours on the phone with an overseas muppet who then royally screwed it up further ,the next day when I had contacted Filipino operator she was able to sort out my issue in 20 minutes. Amazing when one does not follow the script and actually listens to you how things are fixed.

[AndyG]

Interesting. The video does NOT appear when using my Telstra 4G. If I switch WIFI on, and run through the home TPG, the video appears upon reload.

Specifically, the video is replaced with a link "Video source". When clicked this link cannot resolve a page.

Anyone else care to try it on their Telstra Mobile connection? Telstra and Optus are usually the first to block things. I believe this is the case, but would appreciate a greater sample size. As I mentioned earlier, there's a stack of sites I cannot access on th Telstra 4G, but can with at home on the Wifi / with VPN.

[JeniSkunk]

Just tried it on my home ISP and Android tablet on Telstra 4G.
Home ISP is Internode.
In Chrome on my Windows desktop, the video plays fine.
On Android on Telstra, the video source website cannot be resolved.
On Android on WiFi, The video plays just fine.

[Bobbyoutback]

Hello Nikolas ,
Happened again this morning so I clicked over to my VPN & refreshed '
so I could see it .

I'd leave Telstra if i could keep my email addresses , does anyone know a ISP who employs just Aussies & provide good customer service :shrug:

Bobby .

[Nikolas]

Aussie Broadband as far as I know

[Bobbyoutback]

Thanks they have very good reviews & you get to speak with an Aussie if a problem happens :thumbsup:


Have a look at the horrendous reviews of Telstra customers , what an appalling record .

https://www.productreview.com.au/listings/telstra-bigpond-broadband

[JeniSkunk]

That problem is something that impacts so many, which is why they don't move ISPs.
What's needed is email address portability, the same as phone number portability. I've no idea if it might be possible to do, allowing for the domain structuring of the internet.


Unfortunately not. If such an ISP existed, there'd be big talk about it, and mass migration to it among the folks on Whirlpool (https://forums.whirlpool.net.au/).
The glory days of there being worthwhile Australian ISPs run by people who care, are long gone. Simon Hackett sold Internode to Mike Malone who ran iiNet. And in turn, Mike sold iiNet to TPG.
Now, all that's left is really only the big mobs, who only care about Money rather than the users.

[LewisM]

You need to get out more Jeremy - I feel MUCH more censored, censured, and information oppressed in Australia, US and UK than I do in my MANY trips to Russia (MANY!). Don't believe all the propagandist BS they spew...because 90% plus of it is NOT true and they are using this stuff as political weapons. In fact, the US censors claiming now "False news" - wasn't it up to us to decide? "Drink our Kool-aid propaganda, not theirs..."

[xelasnave]

Yes I tend to agree somewhat Lewis as to it is us that are victims of a never-ending propaganda campaign.
One woman approx dies each week due of domestic violence...not a problem it seems...that is one of many deaths that should receive more attention...and yet what are we told to worry about..terrorism..you know that evil dark concoction of fear that claims the lives of Australians daily.
Alex

[Bobbyoutback]

How about an app that translates your old email addresses to your new one's .
:question:
Bobby

[Wavytone]

Was aware long ago that ISPs were using email addresses to lock you in forever. Hence when i first acquired an internet connection at home chose to use accounts at iCloud (Apple) which I figured would be around longer than me. Hence we are not tied to any ISP.

Ultimately you do have to choose an email provider so choose one that is not an ISP, has a spotless record for security (not Microsoft), has no motive to abuse your data (Google or Yahoo) and will last a long time.

[netwolf]

Who cares about another red neck american talking about illegal immigrants from mexico being the cause of all their ecconimic problems and relating that to europe. How about the censprship in UK education system in not teaching the impact of the british empire on countries like India. How many Indians starved to death because there great hero winston churchill, the bengal famine of 1943 3million died. Or how about the American genocidr of native american indians. Its ok to censor this history from your education system and make movies about WC and others making them out to be heros. Lets talk about the real cesnorship. Or lets talk about the wrongfull war in iraq on the baseless WMD claims, that has lead to the prrsent refugee crisis. How about we stop creating problems that create refugees. Or how Americans stop buy drugs from Mexican cartels that are ruining that natiom so people dont have to leave.

Oh wait how about you change the sign on the Statue of Liberty...
Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!

How does our anthem go
Beneath our radiant Southern Cross We'll toil with hearts and hands; To make this Commonwealth of ours Renowned of all the lands; For those who've come across the seas We've boundless plains to share; With courage let us all combine To Advance Australia Fair.

How about the terrible shooting in America dubbed hate crime because well of course it was not a muslim gunmen else it would be dubbed terrorisim... and this nut on youtube wants to talk about knife crime while advertisng people to stock up on Ammo....

[Bobbyoutback]

Thanks ' that is great advice , what would be your recommendations please ?

Bobby :)

[xelasnave]

Don't stop there Fahim please don't tell me you have exhausted your examples of hypocracy.
Alex

[xelasnave]

It has come to my attention that I was having a shot at Fahim..I wasn't I feel much the same way about how we fail to think we could be wrong and also that the horrors of colonialism are glossed over generally.
Alex

[netwolf]

I got that Alex. my point was that we focus on the symptoms of today and there assumed effect on us. But we must see it in the context of history and the larger picture. People on the right are imho narrow in there view as it serves there purpose.

Stats and figures are meaningless without context. Why are they people displaced in the first place , but nobody wants to look into that mirror... its easy to call them ecconomic refugees , but when there homes and towns are burning well baics human instinct is to flee to safety.

There is a scene in the movie the day after tomrrow where americans are shown fleeing south to mexico to avoid the cold , that is human instinct its not ecconomic.
https://youtu.be/yyD_67t7mI0

[xelasnave]

Absolutely so many folk fall for the "party line".
One could ask he question why are we getting involved in places like the Middle East. And there is an obvious answer if one looked at the whole picture.
As I raised earlier this fixation on terrorists is a part of a device to support political agendas irrelevant to us but we are fed the line that terrorism is a threat so great we must indulge the fear without looking at the numbers...and any opportunity to beat it up is seized upon..like Martin place..that was a crazy man not a lone wolf terrorist cell..but guess what Mr and Mrs Average even Mr and Mrs Above Average falls for the line.

It all comes down to education and with education one can put things in context...which is all you rightly call for.

The R right has so much to answer for ... Their elite arrogance is know to everyone but them.
Alex

[astroron]

I wonder if theis thread is trying for the longest thread record :question:
It seems never ending. :shrug:
Cheers:thumbsup:

[xelasnave]

Hi Ron may I let you in on something..it is a general grizzle thread and as such has the potential to be as you say never-ending.

It reflects and underlying concern that overseas folk are taking jobs that Australians won't do and despite all the wonders of our modern times it should all occur without change. Understandable I certainly want things to be better and different but none of this change stuff.
I hope you are doing well I often wonder how you are going.
Alex

[JeniSkunk]

Well it is a problem, Ron, even if IIS isn't really the best forum to discuss the issue of ISPs applying and enforcing domain censoring, when there's no standing legal orders for them to do so.
Because that's what's at the heart of the matter that the OP complained about.

[LewisM]

Fahim, I cannot smash the - sadly non-existent - like button enough. SPOT ON!

The propaganda spewed upon us by the MSM, US Govt, UK Govt and Aus Govt is truly bewildering, and yet the sheeple just drink it all in, barely any take a moment to think and analyse it, let alone resist it or query it because they were TOLD.

Now brace and watch Australia bend the knee to the US and send our Navy to the Gulf. Just wait and watch...of course, the Yanks strategised it well - 2 requests, one of which Australia was naturally going to immediately reject (hosting US missiles). Now the Brits are leaning on us after caving (as usual): https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe/britain-urges-australia-to-contribute-in-the-gulf-20190807-p52eyg.html