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leon
24-04-2019, 07:57 PM
Hi Guys, it sounds a little naughty.

However i have been traveling for nearly nine years and have always put some good bearing grease on my ball (tow Ball) and all is well :thumbsup:

I do however change my ball with a new one ( H R) each 12 months

I have had people say leave it alone and run dry.

Your opinion please.

Leon :thumbsup:

xelasnave
24-04-2019, 08:06 PM
They are wrong Leon and you are clearly correct.
We all know any moving part that it must be lubricated.
I could offer detailed evidence but really do I need to...
Folk who stand for ungreased tow balls are just wrong and should be cast out.
Alex

LewisM
24-04-2019, 08:07 PM
I was going to say ask Alice :P

xelasnave
24-04-2019, 08:14 PM
Lucky you didnt ☺

Alec

raymo
24-04-2019, 08:33 PM
Its not quite as straightforward as Alex would have us believe. Because the
towball assembly is not sealed, as in a wheel bearing, the weight on the ball
very quickly squeezes the grease out from between the top of the ball and the top of the inside of the cup, and down the curvature of the ball where it serves little purpose. You'd have to stop and reposition some grease to the top of the ball every few minutes to keep it lubricated.
If Leon replaces his towball every 12 months, greasing it becomes pointless,
as a towball will last many years without lubrication. My towball is almost
thirteen yrs old, still fully serviceable, and has never seen a skerrick of grease.
raymo

xelasnave
24-04-2019, 09:14 PM
All wise observations Raymo however it is not the years that passed but the frequency of use.

This is a difficult problem to analyse.
Raymo has made a valid observation that hints at a need to instal a mechanism that supplies grease on a more regular basis than a mere occasional application as it seems undetermined re grease points.
Measurements of ware need to be made in an ungreased state and a greased state.
Perhaps tests should be conducted both in the lab and the in the real world.
Obviously coastal verses inland dusty conditions add too the matters to be considered.

I spent most of last night watching utube vids showing trailers detaching from tow vehicles...could these accidents provide an insite into the pros and cons of greasing tow balls.
And then if it comes down in favour of greasing in general terms should consideration be further directed to the type of grease...
I am inclined to recomend to the Government to ban all towing until further research can be conducted.
I suggest a committee be assembled to draw a set of guidelines for a body that should be convened to set out the boundaries of the enquirey.
Alex

GrahamL
27-04-2019, 12:12 AM
i was always told not needed , this from somewhere else

torana68
27-04-2019, 05:48 PM
If it squeaks I put a little grease on it, just to stop the annoyance. Grease or not doesn’t seem to make a lot of difference to anything else. I’ve towed across the country from side to side and all over with various trailers.
“Intended yaw dampening” sounds like a load of rubbish.

leon
27-04-2019, 07:51 PM
Thank you all for your responses.

Leon

multiweb
28-04-2019, 12:38 PM
Unless you use a yaw dampening facilitating agent such as molypaste 2000.

torana68
28-04-2019, 02:19 PM
😁 is it safe to google that or do I need my tin foil hat first?

multiweb
28-04-2019, 02:44 PM
Hazmat suit.

UniPol
28-04-2019, 02:48 PM
I've always greased the tow ball on my cars and place those plastic protection caps on as well. Trouble is the caps get pinched by persons who obviously have a greater need than me and consequently I'd get grease on my trousers on more than one occasion so maybe that's a good case for not greasing the ball. I have a feeling that it is illegal to drive around with the gooseneck/tow ball without something hitched to it, may be an old law? Pretty useful though, I've had a few people run up the back of my car on a few occasions and the damage inflicted on their cars can be pretty nasty as it is virtually a point impact. Not so good is banging your knees and shins on it as most would know. Sorry, a bit off track but yeah.

leon
28-04-2019, 07:50 PM
If they rung up your tow hitch then they deserve to be damaged they are just to close up your clacker, IMHO

Leon

Wavytone
28-04-2019, 09:27 PM
You're right about it being an offence to leave the ball in-situ. It arose from the morons who - while reverse parking - punch a hole in the radiator of the car behind.

If you have good reason to leave the tow ball in place - for example being a regular weekend sailor towing a dinghy on a trailer every week, that would be considered OK. The ones that will be fined are the types that have a caravan towed maybe once a year at Xmas but leave the ball on all year round.

The reason I know was that when I learnt to drive I was a keen sailor, with a dinghy on a boat trailer - and I learnt from the outset what this meant.

OTOH the towbar also had its benefits - my car was once hit front behind... the towbar provided significant protection.

And FWIW I used to grease my ball, sparingly.

multiweb
28-04-2019, 09:57 PM
:lol: It is said the little toe is there to detect furniture that is out of place, sounds like the knee has also a purpose.

Sparksinspace
29-04-2019, 12:14 PM
Depending on what you are towing you could always get one of these and do away with greasy balls hitting your shins!;):lol:

http://www.iceinspace.com.au/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=243312&stc=1&d=1556504033

raymo
29-04-2019, 12:34 PM
You may well be right Nick, about Queensland, but there are no rules here in W.A. regarding removal when not in use; the only rule is that the towing attachment must not protrude unnecessarily far behind the vehicle, and must not have any sharp edges likely to cause bodily harm.
raymo

Outcast
01-05-2019, 01:50 PM
Only law in Qld is it must not obstruct your number plate, not illegal to have it fitted when not towing....

I just looked it up...:)