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gary
31-01-2019, 11:18 AM
A press release (https://nouvelles.umontreal.ca/en/article/2019/01/29/goodbye-to-a-beauty-in-the-night-sky/) by the Université de Montréal in Canada today announces a
finding that the Homunculus is rapidly becoming obscured by the brightening
of Eta Carina, so much so that perhaps within a decade, and almost certainly
by 2036, it will be difficult to see.




I guess we've been lucky to live through a time to have seen it and it
is what it is, but from an observational point of view it will be sad to
see it become obscured.

But one day there are those, perhaps even us, who might witness Eta
Carina going supernova which would be quite a show.

Press Release :-
https://nouvelles.umontreal.ca/en/article/2019/01/29/goodbye-to-a-beauty-in-the-night-sky/

"Distinguishing Circumstellar from Stellar Photometric Variability in Eta Carinae" by Augusto Damineli et. al. abstract :-
https://arxiv.org/abs/1901.00531

Full paper (free, pdf) :-
https://arxiv.org/pdf/1901.00531.pdf

Saturnine
31-01-2019, 01:56 PM
Even more reason for us to observe and / or image the Homunculus as much as possible over the next decade whilst waiting for Eta to go bang.
As always, another informative post, thanks Gary.

glend
31-01-2019, 02:39 PM
Still shows up just fine in narrowband, so imaging will not be a problem in our life times imho.

multiweb
31-01-2019, 06:45 PM
Saw that figure 8 lobes in Paul Hatchman's 20" from wiruna years ago and imaged it so many times too. :lol: oh well....M8 is still intact. ;)

RobF
31-01-2019, 08:37 PM
What sort of scope do you currently need to see it? :question:

gary
31-01-2019, 09:26 PM
Hi Rob,

It is seen even in an 8" as a small peanut shaped object.

To see the filaments within the Homunculus, something like an 18"
or 20" readily does it under magnification and with good seeing.

It really does look angry. :)

astroron
31-01-2019, 09:34 PM
Rob on nights of good seeing lots of detail including filaments can be seen in the 16".
One of the sideways jets stands out also.
Cheers:thumbsup:

skysurfer
01-02-2019, 05:18 AM
I saw it in 2016 with a C14 on a star party and thought it was an optical flaw, but it is real. Then I looked it up with my much fainter ED110 but could still see it very faint.

mental4astro
01-02-2019, 01:54 PM
I'm a bit confused - is it fading or will it be overwhelmed by light?

Alex.

bojan
01-02-2019, 01:55 PM
It will be overwhelmed by light of the eta system itself.

mental4astro
01-02-2019, 05:04 PM
I thought that was the case. So not fading or dimming.

So, it's the dust between us and the Hommunculous that's dissipating, and it is this dust that has toned down the light coming from Eta Carina that's allowed us to view the Hommunculous. What a fortunate set of circumstances and timing that has allowed us to view it at this time of our history/existence!

bojan
02-02-2019, 06:44 AM
Yes.. I think in general we are living in a very special times....

Peter Ward
02-02-2019, 03:41 PM
I was unaware of that paper until your post (BTW thanks!) and due to my CCD camera being serviced in the USA at the moment.....
....put this odd thing called an eyepiece (TeleVue Nagler) on the end of my RC16 and had a gander at Eta last week....it had been a couple of years since I observed it visually.

My first thought was "Hummm... Eta looks brighter! "

Seems I was not imagining the change in appearance.

Eta going supernova in the next few years would however be way cool!

N1
04-02-2019, 11:53 AM
I spent some time viewing it on 1 February, using an 8" dob, and powers around 200x. Both lobes were very obvious, indicating above-average seeing that night. The nearer lobe (SE) was visibly brighter than the one on the far side (NW).

skysurfer
28-02-2019, 01:39 PM
So a new brightening to -1 (brighter than Canopus) in the 2030s ? Like almost 200 years ago in 1841 ?