Hartung's Astronomical Objects no longer in print.

[White Rabbit]

The only place I can find it is on amazon.com in the US @$108 US. Anyone know of a simillar book to this. :sadeyes:

[casstony]

If you decide you really want that particular book you should grab it at that price. It could be years before they do another print run. When Rukl's moon atlas was out of print for a while I saw prices up to US$400 for used books. I just checked that my Hartung was out of reach of the kids - it is a very good book and I can't see many people letting go of their copy.

[JohnG]

Have a look on Bintel's site:

http://www.bintel.com.au/

Under Astronomy books, then under H, you will find it listed there, a number of other sites list it as well.

Cheers

JohnG

[casstony]

Melbourne Uni bookshop lists the book as available for $88 http://www.mup.unimelb.edu.au/catalogue/0-522-84553-3.html

[White Rabbit]

It was Bintel that told me it was out of stock. I went in to buy the other day.

Thanks for the link casstony, I'll have to see if sydney Uni has one, 25% off for students and I'm about to become a student.

Thanks

[Dazzler]

Hi White Rabbit

I've just ordered Hartung from the Sky & Space Magazine shop. Go to their website and follow the links. It was $87.95 plus $12 postage. Seems a good price given that it is now out of print. I'll post again if they I get a message from them to say they are out of stock.

Cheers.

[chunkylad]

Good luck White Rabbit.

It's one that's really worth hunting down.

Cheers

[Gargoyle_Steve]

Collins books online: price $299 !!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.collinsbooks.com.au/popcat.asp?storeURL=collinsbooks&CatMain=NAT000000&CatSub=NAT033000&CatMinor=&PageNo=1&CatMode=2&a=h

[astroron]

Yikes!!!!!!! Steve is it gold plated?

[snowyskiesau]

Dymocks have this listed for $87.95. No indication if it's in stock though.

[Dazzler]

Just heard back from the Sky & Space shop and they are out of stock so order has been cancelled. :shrug:

[White Rabbit]

Damn, It makes no sence. Every one that I have spoken about this this book to as said it's one fo the best and yet they are no longer printing it.

Thanks for the search's guys. I get paid on tuesday so I'll be "trying" to order then.

Thanks
Sandy

[astroron]

Have you tried Amazon?

[Argonavis]

http://www.amazon.com/Hartungs-Astronomical-Objects-Southern-Telescopes/dp/0521554918/sr=1-4/qid=1171281556/ref=sr_1_4/103-9471576-3759827?ie=UTF8&s=books

$US108 plus shipping


http://www.alibris.com/search/search.cfm?qwork=9205949&wtit=hartung&matches=5&qsort=r&cm_re=works*listing*title

$A180 plus shipping

[beren]

As an alternative maybe try your local library, in my local district 4 of the 6 branches have a copy and I have one of those virtually under perpetual loan plus the library service has a net service where you can search for the title your after, request it and renewals can be done over the net as well :)

[Gargoyle_Steve]

Apparently on hearing of the difficulty of getting this book now my wonderful girlfriend has bought a copy for me!
:eyepop:

She sourced it from Melbourne Uni as a present for my birthday, which is NOT until July!

To say I am stunned and impressed would be an understatement.
She's a very very good girl!
:thumbsup:

Luckily Ron she didn't get the (not so) gold plated version from Collins - I checked their listing, and I still cannot seem to find any difference in what they offer for $299. I must be missing SOMETHING surely ... Very strange indeed.

Cheer folks!

[astroron]

:thumbsup: Steve,glad you got anearly Birthday Present:)
I was wandering why the person who was after the book did not try Melbourne University Book Shop? even though the book is out of print does not mean it is not available for sale.;)

[Gargoyle_Steve]

She has bought it Ron, but has given me no guarantee that I'll actually GET it before July .. (laughing) ... but that's ok with me, knowing I'll have it eventually is almost present enough .....

Almost!
:-)

[Dazzler]

Having had the order cancelled by the Sky & Space Magazine Shop I have now ordered it from Dymocks online for $87.95 + postage. Fingers crossed that they have it in stock as their website doesn't give you than minor bit of information!:screwy:

I'll update this thread with news on the order.

[Ric]

Wow $299, that does come with a free telescope as well. :lol:

Cheers

[White Rabbit]

At the time I went into Bintels to buy the book I had the cash to buy, however so that I didnt leave empty handed I left Bintels with 3x barlow instead. I'll have to wait till next pay to buy it.

Thanks
Sandy

[astroron]

:thumbsup: Never leave an Astronomy Shop without buying something:lol:
Hopefully you will eventually get Hartungs:)

[Gargoyle_Steve]

You did the right thing Sandy,no doubt!
;)
I should be grateful that there ARE no astronomy shops anywhere near me so I don't have to resist the temptation. As it is internet shopping is way too easy as well, as my credit card bill clearly demonstrates.

[GrahamL]

abe books has this title pop up now and again .. there was one around
the $50 aus delivered this week I think ...

Just recieved burnhams vol 3 to complete the set today .from the US .. NEW .. like the other 2 weirdly .. never been opened a $1.95 plus postage ($12 aus total ) .. you do have to search often though most of the reasonably priced offerings get snapped up quickly :)

[Dazzler]

Surprise, surprise, surprise! Dymocks is out of stock also. :mad2:

Time to start hunting through some secondhand bookshops and hope to get lucky.

[White Rabbit]

Damn, I should have kept my mouth shut until I could actually get my hands on one. You @#$%$%'s better not take the last one lol, no seriously I mean it;). Suddenly Tuesday seems a lot further away.

Happy hunting boys.





Man, I have really bad GAS (Gear Acquisition Syndrome). I'm a sound engineer and musician so I have it real bad. I have more guitars than I could play. I own a home recording studio the Beetles would have killed for. But I can see the astronomy thing is going to be just as detrimental to my bank account. Thank the God's that the Asto shops dont do interest free credit is all I can say.

Take care boys.

Sandy

[White Rabbit]

Oh, if they do do intrest free I dont want to know ;).
Ok wait I wanna know.
No I dont.
MMmmmmm, yes I do.

Do they???

No, dont tell me.

Shhhh!!

[White Rabbit]

DONT TELL MEEEEeeeeeeeee!!

[White Rabbit]

:help:

[GrahamL]

There was a cheaper copy available last week $35 us
they do show up a bit if you keep looking



http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/BookDetailsPL?bi=840873469&searchurl=sts%3Dt%26y%3D10%26tn%3DH artung%2527s%2BAstronomical%2BObjec ts%26x%3D43

[CoombellKid]

I got my copy right here on IIS from memory for $85!!! thanks Striker!!

At the time when I was checking around for it. You could get it for $87.00
for the aussie printed version. Or US$275.00 from some printer in the US.
I had have a chuckle about it, I think it was the only Astro investment we
could make that was cheaper than something from the US.

It's a must have book if your in the southern hemisphere, I think the rights
were eventually sold to the US publisher. And as it is mainly southern sky
objects not too many northern hemisphere folks wanted it.

Same thing happened to the HB star atlas, Aussie maded then sold off the
a US publisher and now not distributed in Oz, although that may of changed.

regards,CS

[CoombellKid]

Hi Graham,

Be aware there are two versions of this book. The original by Hartung and
the second edition updated by David Malin and David Frew.



regards,CS

[Argonavis]

The original edition was a very modest book, unlike the lavishly illustrated 2nd edition by Malin and Frew.

I remember borrowing the original from the local library. It was one of the few practical observing guides available in the late 60's and 70's. The other was Menzels Field Guide to the Stars and Planets, which included a model to calcualte the positions of the planets in the days before PC's and planetarium programs.

The original Hartung would, I suspect, be of only historic interest. The Malin and Frew edition is much much better.

I could go on to say that the original is as rare as hens teeth, but that will mean that about 100 icers will put up thier hand to say they have one. Still, I have only seen 1 copy over many many years.

[astroron]

Let me be the first to say Iv"e got one:lol: :lol: :lol:

[Gargoyle_Steve]

There you go William, you only had to have a peek at Ron's bookcase on any of the many many times you've been there. (chuckling) We should have known you'd have it Ron - what other gems have you got tucked away?

When Joy finally hands my present over I must bring it up so we can have a look at the 2 versions together. Mind you she has an email from Melbourne Uni Publising to say they have processed her order, I'm still hoping that means that stock IS confirmed but it does not actually SAY that. My fingers are strenuously crossed.

[Argonavis]

I looked at the Melb Uni bookstore and it wasn't there, but here it is:

http://www.mup.unimelb.edu.au/catalogue/0-522-84553-3.html

that is a good price for an excellent practical guide, everyone here should have a copy

[astroron]

:hi: Steve, I have origanal editions of Carl Sagens Comet and Cosmos, also a copy of the Origanal NGC IC Catalogues 1 and 2, as well as some other interesting books:P

[Dazzler]

Steve

Bad news. Melbourne Uni have just emailed me and my order has changed from being processed to unavailable! Another avenue bites the dust. Hopefully you might have got their last copy but I think the chances are slim.

[Gargoyle_Steve]

No, it's the same story here as well, someone else got the last copy :doh:
My girlfriend has been away in Adelaide for the last 2 weeks, she ordered the book the day she left Melbourne. She's back in Melbourne again now and emailed Melbourne Uni Publishing to see what was happening. Here's part of the reply:

"Dear ....

Thank you for your internet order. Hartungs astronomical objects ....... ........ is not available at the moment. The report is a reprint is under consideration but no date for a release. You are recorded to receive a copy but I cannot confirm when this will be.

Regards .... "

Oh well - I may not have a copy of Hartung's on the way, but I do have a wonderful girlfriend, and even better she will be back here in Qld with me in a week !!

:thumbsup:

[CoombellKid]

Steve,

I remember trying to order the HB star atlas through the same folks a
couple or three years ago, and got the same answer.... I wonder if
they still have me on their waiting list. The bottom line is, if they get
enough interest and orders for that book they will happily reprint it....
it all comes down to money. One or two inquiries aint going to do it.

regards,CS

[CoombellKid]

Ok ok.... I sell my copy to the first person willing to fork out $600.00 :D :P

This will increase by $100.00 per day from here on.

regards,CS

[White Rabbit]

Thats a good point. Maybe we should take a pole on the subject and see how many people are actually interested it the book. If we have enough interest maybe we could contact the publishing house and see if they will do a reprint.

Maybe it is even something that could be done through ICEInSpace.

Whacha think

[glenc]

Here is a file containing all the DSO in the old 1984 edition of Hartung.
I have both editions.

[Gargoyle_Steve]

Rob as much as we all appreciate your very "generous" offer :lol:
I am going to have to pass on it.

I wasn't supposed to say anything until this was all done and dusted but apparently my very dedicated girlfriend Joy has done a LOT of searching via the net and she has found a 2nd hand copy of the David Malin, et al, updated edition (book and dust jacket both in Very Good condition) for sale in ........ Toronto, Canada!!
:eyepop:

(I guess they have pretty limited views of Southern Skies from there ;) )

She has received 2 emails now from the vendor, the first advising that her order has been processed ... and the second confirming that the book has been packaged and posted. Quoted delivery approx 30th April (not including customs delays, if any).

2 lessons in this:

First, persistance pays off.

Second, she's a very good girl, and will need to be rewarded with lots of chocolates, etc.

There is one down side : I'm Damned if I know what I can do for her birthday present in return that can possibly top this effort!

[Gargoyle_Steve]

Quick update : it appears that there is a registered package awaiting collection by Joy at her local post office. She assures me that there is only one object that she has purchased "online" and is expecting delivery of.

:party: :cool: :party: :cool: :party:


I'm still not sure whether she will actually give me the book now, or make me wait until my birthday which is nearly 3 months away.

:innocent:

[[1ponders]]

Well you just never know what you find at book sales.

I have seen the thread title but never looked into this thread until just now. Keep you eyes open guys because they are still around. I went to the University of Queensland book sale today and while browsing throught th physics and astronomy piles, picked up a reprint of the 1st edition in fantastic condition, with hard plastic cover (library covering :thumbsup: ) so it wont get damp outside for the princely sum of ...........













$1.50 :D

[netwolf]

Is there an ebook version?

If its not in print I believe it is legal to photocopy it. Have to check this.

Regards

[Argonavis]

I don't think so. Copyright expires 50 years after the creators death. In the case of the original Hartung, you will have to wait until 2029.

[CoombellKid]

Was that with or without student discount?:lol:

regards,CS

[[1ponders]]

Without :D