Is Win10 the worst version ever?

[Russj]

I've been using windows since 3.11 after moving from a Commadore 64, in the early days of windows there were plenty of problems but it was perhaps expected as the os developed, moving up thru 95 and Win7 the os improved and while there were still problems, Win7 in particular worked well for me.
Enter win10 what a piece of garbage, hard drive hammering away continuously, 10 second lock ups where not even the mouse pointer will move, a useless browser that you cant disable, upgrades you cant turn off and generally make the problems worst, just to mention a few.
I've carried out every "fix" that I've been able to locate and the problems persists looking at the M$ forums there are ongong complaints that M$ seems to totally ignore, in 1990's we expected a few problems with an os as they developed, but we're in 2018 when you would expect an os that is at its peak development, instead we have an os that is as bad as win3.11

Interested in other forum members comments, is anyone happy with win10?

[Marke]

I have had very few issues if any with Win10 its been pretty smooth actually . My main issue with it is that it caters to much for mobile / laptop use with its tiles and crap and updates that change things without notifying you but as for running smooth thats never been an issue.

[Zuts]

What a ridiculous biased statement.

Hopefully the mods will lock this clickbait thread immediately! It's all been said and locked before hasn't it?

[Lognic04]

I moved to Linux Mint, couldn't be happier! Running it for a year now!

[AstralTraveller]

Yep, been on Mint for perhaps a decade (Ubuntu before that) and I'm very happy. My wife needs some Win-only software and for that I have Win 7 in a VM. For most users I can't see the need for Win.


Having said that I have used Win 7 at work for years without a problem. It started looking dated but that was all. I've had Win 10 for a month or more now and it's fine. Looks and feels smoother than 7 and is perceptibly quicker.

[redbeard]

I agree that Win 10 is the absolute worst version ever!

I do a lot of different tasks with my pc, software and hardware and I find Win 10 unusable quite often. Not installed anymore.
File transfer for one is a joke. Win7, 20 times faster which is normal.
Win 7 works very well.

Cheers,
Damien

[LewisM]

Nope, Vista or Win8 take the cake for worst ever. I remember my wife suffering with Vista for a LONG time before I flushed it to XP for her. I run Win7 on my astro-imaging/safe-secure work machine, and only use Win10 (the one I am using now) for general useless stuff like forum chat etc etc. Not a single important or personal thing is kept on here.

Much of the mouse hanging in Win10 can be a fault of Chrome browser, that Google cannot seem to fix in the most recent "updates" (more like Google intrusion). It particularly stalls with certain anti-virus programmes (might say something about Chrome...hmmmm), especially Malwarebytes.

Plus, Chrome has started NOT allowing me to go to some websites despite me trusting them, so I just use Firefox. Chrome can go jump.

[Nikolas]

I use mac and windows
Mac has never been an issue but in regards to windows, I loved win 7 but win 10 seems awesome until update time which is forced upon you.
Not a fan of forced updates which at times seems to wreck things rather than fix them

[LewisM]

I turned Win10 updates off a LONG time ago. Takes some registry etc finagling, but it CAN be done, despite what Windows/Microsoft tells you. Just google it...

[JA]

Yes it runs happily in the background without intruding and not crashing at all, across a host of applications from browsing, Word, Stats, Eng., video editing, etc...

Best
JA

[FlashDrive]

Nope ...Don't like it... runs like a ' ripple ' in a bucket of sh*t

Win 7 Ultimate 64Bit for me ...runs smooth as a Swiss Watch ...

Col...

[Shano592]

I quite like Win10, except for one issue I had recently...

When I take my laptop home, I leave it running with the screen close, when not in use. The settings are such that it won't shut off, so I can jump straight back on with no down time.

Now, a few weeks ago, I opened the screen to blackness, but the system was still chugging away. So, 5 seconds on the power button and a forced reset. Up comes the expected Safe Mode login screen, and I enter the password... Failed. So I enter it again, confirming each keystroke as I go... Failed. Hmm.. Restart... Safe Mode, same result, wth? I thought, "OK, I'll show you." Advanced Restart, Wipe Everything... Failed. How the heck? Just wipe! Nope.

Eventually, I worked it out without losing everything on the laptop (which has been running faultlessly since 2012, I will add). It turned out that there was a command line set of operations that would reset the password cache or something, and then I was able to login as per normal.

Also, I will add that this error has popped up occasionally since at least Windows 7.

Win 10 for me is very solid, and removing the Edge browser icon was as good as deleting it. Opera runs rings around it anyway, and has a built-in VPN.

Also, I liked Windows Vista. I'm a tinkerer, and Vista let me customise quite a lot to my liking.

[Max Vondel]

I hate Windows 10
with all its stupid new look boxes
Can't turn off windows update except by drama
No bloody good if you are tethering your computer through your phone as I do.
And its hard to find drives and stuff
Still got win7 on my main and I am happy with that
I have to say it's the worst window systems yet
"Not happy Jan"

[JeniSkunk]

Windows 10 as the worst ever version of Windows? I don't know if it bests Window Me to take that accolade.
Windows 10 as the worst version ever of Windows mobile on multi-platform? Absolutely yes, no ifs, no buts, no maybes.

[raymo]

I will list two or three problems out of the almost countless ones I have had with W10. The compulsory update deleted my Windows games such as
Hearts, Freecell, etc: DSS will not work on either of my W10 laptops, despite
deleting and re downloading DSS several times, and the DSS problems are bizarre, such as the final image being fine, but when saved it saves one
original sub rather than the final image. The other laptop changes the final image into mono when saving it. On one laptop I can only put one sub at a time into DSS[ a huge pain if stacking 100 or more subs], and the other
laptop only allows me to first enter 4 subs, and then singly after that.
My email inbox empties itself into cyberspace from time to time, so I have to check my emails very frequently, or risk losing them. I won't bore you all with any more. W10 sucks. My ancient W7 laptop just keeps soldiering on,
albeit slowly.
raymo

[LewisM]

Raymo, re the email - check settings to keep the email indefinitely or until you delete it, otherwise, Windows defaults to keeping them for 30 days or something. It is one of the first settings you must change.

With DSS, I suggest you also check the save parameters when you are saving - if I remember, it does give several options. Also, try Shift-A when selecting your files.

[raymo]

Hi Lewis, Re the emails; the settings are o.k. it dumps them randomly, after
12hrs, a week, or a month, or any other amount of time. Ditto with DSS settings. As far as I know there is no way you can set it to save a single sub instead of the final image, what would be the point? Similarly, when would one complete the colour balance, saturation, and luminance adjustments, only to then want to convert the final image to black and white?
My really ancient W7 laptop still does DSS faultlessly, so I dawdle along with that. Another of my problems is that one W10 laptop automatically goes on
line when fired up, but the other one connects sometimes, but I usually have to do it manually[ the auto connect box is ticked].
Both W10 laptops used to allow loading all images into DSS in one go, but if I try now with Shift-A, or try highlighting more than four subs,
it goes haywire like when you pull the lever on an old fashioned poker machine, and the fruit goes spinning around.
Incidentally, I cannot access settings in my email, the settings tab is inoperative, but all the other tabs are fine.
raymo

[Exfso]

Cmon Lewis, give us the good oil!!;)

[AndyG]

Hi Peter, I'm sure Lewis will. In the meantime, some light reading:

http://www.iceinspace.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=168460

Be Excellent to Yourself!

[FlashDrive]

Here yah go Gents ...have fun ....

https://www.techadvisory.org/2018/02/how-to-turn-off-intrusive-windows-10-settings/

and

https://www.cnet.com/how-to/10-things-to-disable-in-windows-10/

and

https://gadgets.ndtv.com/laptops/features/windows-10-7-default-settings-you-should-change-immediately-after-install-744550

Pop....:D

[brian nordstrom]

:thumbsup: Same here ( touch wood ) I have it on my laptop and desktop and it just does it's thing without and problem , fast and realiable for years now .

Updates smoothly and fast with no interuptions and most times I don't even know it has until I shutdown , yes all good here .

I like it .

Brian.

I :question: just wonder if a few members here have pirated copies ???

[leon]

Alice has laptop running Win 10 and hates it, I have a desktop running Win 8.1 and love it every thing except the odd issue runs fast and efficiently .

Leon

[Ausrock]

My original work laptop (of >7 years) has Vista which has not been overly problematic.

A "few" years ago, when looking for a replacement I managed to find a dealer selling laptops with genuine Windows 7 OS, this has not missed a beat to date.

A couple of years ago we bought the "better half" a laptop which came with Windows 10..........what an intrusive, overly controlling load of crap this OS is.

With all that said, my pick is the PC in our "recording" studio which has run faultlessly on Windows XP for more years than I can remember, absolutely rock solid.

To each their own.

[raymo]

My fave was XP, although I have to say that my desktop PC has run W7
trouble free for many years.
raymo

[OICURMT]

I guess no one remembers Windows ME

[mynameiscd]

Well I'm still using a cutdown vs. of xp sp3 on my laptop.
Yeah I can't use the latest progs in 64bit and it's pretty slow with DSS but stable as a rock.
Ok it might have some holes in it if I go on the net but with 80% turned off its running on about 12 processes i just don't connect this old Asus FJ3p to the net.
I can still run 16 adat channels of audio at 32bit with not one error but I can't get on the net without turning a heap of processes.
Maybe I'm living in the early 2000s but if it ain't broke don't fix it.
Cheers
Andy

[AndyG]

I'm not usually one to get onto the negative bandwagon, but I'll say this. It was policy to not sell a PC (hand built "biegeboxes") with WinMe on it at the old PC shop I worked at. It was fine - as long as you liked a blue and white colour scheme :P

[raymo]

I have a mint condition Acer digital video and still imager which I can no longer use because my last surviving W98 comp has died, and there are no
drivers available to allow me to use it on later versions of windows, such a shame to throw away a fully serviceable item.
raymo

[spiezzy]

Mmmm I don't seem to have any of those issues don't have forced up dates or freezing or Error messages oh yeah I use a Mac .

[FlashDrive]

Yeah , but your over on the ' Dark Side ' :P

[spiezzy]

Col experience the dark side of the force sooo much POWER!!! Gsshhh Gsshhhh

[FlashDrive]

:eyepop: :lol:

[AndyG]

I always wondered how to spell the onomatopoeia of a lightsabre. Thankyou, something struck off my bucket list.

OK smarty pants, spell me a TIE fighter roar :P

[spiezzy]

Andy it was supposed to Darth Vadar breathing but any a lightsaber will do :rofl::rofl::rofl:

[AndyG]

Well, if that's the case... "You're not my Father!".
We derailed this thread or what...:question:

[spiezzy]

I think so my Bad I do apologise we can get back on track now

[skysurfer]

I am not a Windows fan (use a Mac and Ubuntu), but Win10 is not the worst. Even considering the unavoidable updates which appear when you are in the middle of something. I have made a script which sabotages the updates and when I really need an update, I just disable that script (scheduled task) temporarily. If a use Windows at all. And then I run it in a Virtual Box image on my Mac.

[AstralTraveller]

Have you seen elementaryOS? It's built on Ubuntu but the GUI looks Mac. I've got an early beta installed, which is a bit too rough, but it's been developed since then.

[csb]

Wasn't Vista the worst version?

I just bought a new Acer with Windows 10S.
Thankfully converting to full W10 was easy, quick n free.

[AndyG]

Nah. At least Vista was NT based. Vista's main curse was the well documented lack of consulation with industry players by MS, and certain shortcuts taken by developers used to dealing with the Win9x base, now having to play in an NT based "consumer" OS.

My vote goes to WinMe. It was just drunk behind the wheel.