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Atmos
01-04-2018, 11:58 AM
This is a smallish planetary nebula just to the side of the Running Chicken, does anyone know what it is called? The only reference I've been able to find is in TheSkyX where it is classified as "PLN 294- 0.1".

It is about 72 arcsec in diameter and while there is quite a substantial amount of Ha in the background surrounding it, I haven't stretched the image very hard.
I have lost some of the teal colour in the centre in the way that I've blended the Ha into it, something I do need to work on.

The second image is just a RGB shot.

HaRGB (3000x3000) (https://www.astrobin.com/full/339989/0/)
RGB (2000x2000) (https://www.astrobin.com/full/339989/B/)

glend
01-04-2018, 12:43 PM
The closest PN i can find is:

He 2-72, about 30' outside the Running Chicken.

Visual magnitude +14.5.

Interestingly, it has a PK catalog designation of PK 294-00.1

Those details are from Sky Safari Pro 5

RickS
01-04-2018, 01:27 PM
Nice catch, Colin.

Have a look here. There's a list of identifiers towards the bottom of the page: http://simbad.u-strasbg.fr/simbad/sim-id?Ident=PN+Hf+69&NbIdent=1&Radius=2&Radius.unit=arcmin&submit=submit+id

Cheers,
Rick.

Geoff45
01-04-2018, 05:06 PM
Challenging object Colin. The RGB shot is certainly showing structure, so reworking the Ha + RGB should be worthwhie.

LewisM
01-04-2018, 05:17 PM
Yeah, I want to know too - I asked the same question in my Giblets post a couple weeks back: http://www.iceinspace.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=165067&highlight=giblets -2nd image in my set of 3

Placidus
01-04-2018, 06:31 PM
Good work finding it, and great work photographing the thin bright fragmented ring just inside it.

RickS
01-04-2018, 07:01 PM
Did you check the link, Lewis?

http://simbad.u-strasbg.fr/simbad/sim-id?Ident=PN+Hf+69&NbIdent=1&Radius=2&Radius.unit=arcmin&submit=submit+id

LewisM
01-04-2018, 07:04 PM
The page won't load for me

RickS
01-04-2018, 07:31 PM
That's odd... Can you load Simbad? http://simbad.u-strasbg.fr/simbad

The object is PN Hf 69, aka ESO 129-29, Hen 2-72, PN G294.9-00.6, PN Sa 2-79, AM 1139-621, etc.

LewisM
01-04-2018, 07:36 PM
Works now. ASIO was probably deciding if it was classified or restricted :rolleyes:

RickS
01-04-2018, 07:44 PM
Must be something there they don't want us to see :lol:

cometcatcher
01-04-2018, 10:37 PM
Cool stuff Colin! So the chicken has a small PN near it. I'll have to check previous shots to see of I have it otherwise I'm going to have to hunt it next clear sky.

Atmos
02-04-2018, 06:53 AM
You found it!
The PK catalog must correspond to the PLN of TheSkyX.



I knew it would be out there somewhere! I found it on Aladin but I haven’t quite figured out how to get it to tell me object identifications. I’ve mostly just used it for star magnitudes.



Cheers Geoff, I was driving home last night and I think I’ve figured out a way of creating a H(b) channel to blend in with the blue. Certainly won’t help with any OIII signal towards the core of the PN however.



Thanks MnT :) Check our the 7 O-Clock position near the chicken (https://www.astrobin.com/full/339744/B/), that’s where it’s located. It appears to have created its own cavity in the Ha.



Thanks Kevin, it’s actually really close to the chicken so as long as you’ve captured the entire region it should be in yours.

Merlin66
02-04-2018, 12:03 PM
You can download the ESO planetary Neb catalogue for Cartes du Ciel.

One of the official designations seems to be "PK294-00 1" - note no decimal point.

SimmoW
02-04-2018, 02:12 PM
Nice closeup Colin, I was fascinated by it when I saw it in a couple of my chook shots, it's bloody small! Bottom left.

https://flic.kr/p/Rp8eHk

theodog
02-04-2018, 03:27 PM
Actually TheSkyX must correspond with the PK catalogue.

And Guide 9.1 has the object as below;

LewisM
05-04-2018, 11:04 AM
Did a repro through PI of the same PN - no new data, same old same old from the 85mm...

Atmos
05-04-2018, 11:14 AM
It is a reasonably small object ;)

bojan
05-04-2018, 11:48 AM
I also found it on one of my shots.... (crop atached, Canon FD 400mm F/2.8L @f/4 + Canon 450D, FSM)
CdC says (from two catalogs):

Planetary Nebula
PNG294.9-00.6 He 2- 72
Class:
Dimension: 68.0"
Magnitude:
Hbeta Magnitude: 15.75
Surface Brightness:
Central Star B Magnitude:
Central Star V Magnitude:

J2000 RA: 11h41m37.82s DE:-62°28'56.4"
Date RA: 11h42m30.30s DE:-62°35'01.2"

Melbourne 2018-4-5 11h41m ( TU + 10h00m )
Sideral Time : 0h15m
Hour Angle : 12h32m
Azimuth :+176°15'
Altitude :+10°02'

Circumpolar
Culmination : 23h09m
Distance to the last object : +00°00'00.0" PA:180

0h00m00.0s +00°00'00"


and:



Planetary Nebula
PK 294- 0.1 He2- 72
Constellation: Centaurus
Dimension: 1.1'x 1.1'
Magnitude: 14.70
Surface Brightness: 14.70
Description:


J2000 RA: 11h41m42.00s DE:-62°29'00.0"
Date RA: 11h42m34.49s DE:-62°35'04.8"

Melbourne 2018-4-5 11h41m ( TU + 10h00m )
Sideral Time : 0h15m
Hour Angle : 12h32m
Azimuth :+176°15'
Altitude :+10°02'

Circumpolar
Culmination : 23h09m
Distance to the last object : +00°00'29.2" PA:97

0h00m04.2s -00°00'04"