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gregbradley
04-03-2018, 11:47 AM
The Sony A7r2 series has had some controversy over a hot pixel suppression algorithim Sony uses much the same as Nikon did several years ago.

It can damage stars that are quite tight - I believe its 2x2 pixel sizes it hits.
So tracked images with fine stars may find the dimmer tighter stars attenuated and in some cases (A7s) where the pixels are larger it can punch holes in the star centres etc.

Later models are a tad less bad and the small pixels of the A7r2/3 models seem to escape most of this and its hard to notice.

But a smart poster on DPreview stumbled across a way to turn it off on the earlier models A7r2, A7s2 and probably A7r and A7s. You simply turn the drive mode to continuous Hi or Lo mode and the camera uses 12bit instead of 14bit and saves on processing power. No doubt the engineer thought no one would want long exposures in continuous shooting mode (usually reserved for action).

So I tried it out for the first time under dark skies.

I quite like the result. I am not sure how much was star eater off and how much was the near perfect seeing and very accurate focus. These variables make it hard to judge changes sometimes. But there is no disputing the stars are tight and bright and lots of them so it seems its a win.

Sony A7r2, Sigma Art 14mm F1.8 tracked. 8 x 30 seconds ISO6400 x 3 panels.

http://www.pbase.com/gregbradley/image/167083228/large

Greg.

RickS
04-03-2018, 05:06 PM
A very nice result whatever the cause, Greg!

OzEclipse
04-03-2018, 11:07 PM
Looks good Greg.

Joe

Joshua Bunn
05-03-2018, 12:05 AM
Thanks Greg. I'm going to test it on my a7s when i can.
A lovely natural looking image there aswell Greg.

Josh

gregbradley
05-03-2018, 06:09 PM
Cheers Rick. I also have the latest model the A7r3 which is a pretty stunning camera overall. Same sensor but a more advanced and powerful processor and image processing chip.
It also has a feature some cameras like the Pentax K1 and Olympus have called pixel shift. It works like regular LRGB imaging without the L. The pixel shift moves the sensor 1 pixel for each of 4 images so you get 4 red 8 x green and 4 x blue.

It makes it a 170mp camera and also improves colour depth. Quite a bit more than I expected.







Thanks Josh.

It may not make a huge difference on the A7r2/3 but it may on the A7S.

Greg.

Derek Klepp
06-03-2018, 05:09 PM
Thanks Greg .I’d be interested in your results with the A7r3 and the Sigma14mm.

Mickoid
07-03-2018, 01:12 PM
Nice one Greg. You have captured some great action by using your continuous shooting mode! ;)

gregbradley
07-03-2018, 05:59 PM
Its virtually the same as the A7r2 one here. The A7r3 has a little bit less amp glow and noise and it has pixel shift which seems to make the most difference.



Thanks. I think it helps a bit.

Greg.

Ryderscope
18-03-2018, 07:49 PM
That’s come out very well Greg. A great composition with getting the light just right and foreground detail.

gregbradley
25-03-2018, 01:06 PM
Thanks Rodney. These nightscapes are harder than they look.

Greg.