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Merlin66
07-02-2018, 07:57 AM
http://www.bbc.com/news/av/science-environment-42967056/elon-musk-s-huge-falcon-heavy-rocket-due-to-launch
pmrid
07-02-2018, 08:05 AM
Well, I'm a convert. The images from Pad 39A were amazing. But most of all, the return of multiple boosters and the images of their spaceman sitting in that little car heading to a billion year destiny were just plain great.
Peter
glend
07-02-2018, 08:10 AM
What show! The Starman moment was amazing. Does anyone know if the centre core landed ok?
marc4darkskies
07-02-2018, 08:13 AM
I had sweaty palms watching the live feed and found myself saying go, go, go ...! Haha ... imagine how exciting it was to be there! That image of the space suited figure in the car was just amazing as was watching the two boosters land simultaneously!! Just incredible!
doppler
07-02-2018, 08:50 AM
Great stuff :thumbsup: That's gotta be the most unusual interplanetary space ship launched.
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/space/os-bz-falcon-heavy-spacex-launch-tuesday-20180206-story.html
julianh72
07-02-2018, 09:24 AM
I was watching it live, and I felt the same sort of exhilaration that I remember from the Apollo 11 launch and moon landing. I was willing it to succeed, along with millions of others around the globe.
Elon Musk does have a bit of a reputation for over-promising and under-delivering - but if you don't set some extreme targets, you will never make any progress. The recent success of the SA battery project, and the Space-X Heavy launch, are testaments to his entrepreneurial spirit.
And you have to give him full credit for showmanship - that Tesla Roadster / Starman moment was brilliant!
Octane
07-02-2018, 10:47 AM
I missed it live, but, watched the replay this morning before heading to work.
I was standing there wiping tears away.
Just incredible.
H
beren
07-02-2018, 11:01 AM
Awesome viewing, the boosters returning and landing back on the pad ....wow :thumbsup::)
baileys2611
07-02-2018, 11:50 AM
I heard that the disco ball sent up last month by NZ provided great ambience for the music playing in Musk's car as it zoomed past.
glend
07-02-2018, 12:30 PM
So Musk has explained the loss of the centre core, only one engine reignited for the landing burn, thus it impacted the water near the barge at 300 MPH. They have some work to do on that issue, but hey it achieved heavy lift orbit and Martian insertion burn.
The_bluester
07-02-2018, 01:10 PM
You know that they are well stocked with nerds (nothing wrong with that) when they sneak in a Hitchhikers Guide reference.
Interesting to see on the footage how soon after being kicked away from the main body the boosters started sorting themselves out to come home.
julianh72
07-02-2018, 02:55 PM
I wonder if they'll be able to integrate that technology into Tesla cars? It would be handy when you forget where you parked your car in a multi-storey (or when you have a few too many drinks after work) - just get an Uber home, and your Tesla will be waiting in the garage when you get home.
One thing that astounded me was how perfectly synchronised the two boosters were all the way down - from little attitude-control "puffs" to firing the braking burns, to touch-down - perfectly synched all the way. (Yes, in one sense, they both started at the same altitude and velocity, so they should in theory be synchronised, but I would have expected a little bit of randomness to creep in.)
julianh72
07-02-2018, 03:29 PM
To paraphrase Star Wars: "The Nerd is strong with this one".
"Tesla" is named after the archetypal mad scientist, Nikolai Tesla
While other hyper-cars have Launch Control etc, Teslas have "Ludicrous Mode" (and also have various "Easter Egg" modes for holiday season, such as Trans-Siberian Orchestra Mode at Christmas)
The first three mainstream Tesla cars are the S, 3 and X. (Geddit?) What's the betting that the next one will be the Model Y?
The Falcon 9 and Falcon Heavy are named after the Millennium Falcon (Star Wars reference)
The Kestrel was the first-generation rocket motor, while the current generation is the Merlin, and the next generation motor will be the Raptor - Kestrels and Merlins are both types of Falcons (which are themselves Raptors)
The Dragon series of spacecraft are named after "Puff the Magic Dragon" (as a rebuff to critics who said that SpaceX was fanciful when it launched in 2002)
Musk's personal preference for the name of the first SpaceX Mars mission is "Heart of Gold" (Hitchhikers' Guide reference)
The landing barges are named "Just Read the Instructions" and "Of Course I Still Love You" (autonomous, sentient spaceships from the Iain M. Banks novel "The Player of Games")
The Boring Company's (bad pun right there!) first tunnel boring machine is named "Godot" - after the character who never arrives in the Samuel Beckett play)
And then of course, you've got to admire the head of a rocket program who is prepared to release a "blooper reel" of all of his failed launches and landings, all set to the theme song from Monty Python: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lrn1c6N0phw (Even the caption at 0'29" is a classic: "It's just a scratch")
And they're just the nerd references that spring to mind - there are probably dozens of others.
Sconesbie
07-02-2018, 04:17 PM
I haven't seen it yet so don't give too much away.
Question though, how are they going to vacuum and wash the car up there?
It's already in a vacuum so no need to wash.
:P
Merlin66
07-02-2018, 04:38 PM
Hmm
Did he have to let the air out the tyres - would they explode in a vacuum??
I think Musk, being a shrewd businessman, had already taken inflation into consideration.
:lol:
Merlin66
07-02-2018, 04:59 PM
:lol:
Deeno
07-02-2018, 05:15 PM
Highest emission of any Tesla in circulation...
Seriously though....I think I can see my house from the front seat..
Will it have its headlights on? I'd like to see it zipping past tonight :lol::rofl:
Actually... seriously tho, would we see anything of this? As a faint satellite perhaps? Dylan O'Donnell did a beaut post on facebook just before giving some nice details/charts. Apparently it's due over Brisbane & Byron etc around 3:43am (2:43am for QLD) tomorrow morning.
https://www.n2yo.com/passes/?s=43205
Julian, btw, that was a very interesting post re nerdy, thank you.
glend
07-02-2018, 07:57 PM
I believe it is outbound now and no longer in near earth orbit per se. The burns boosted it to 7000km and then another on its tragectory for its ultimate loop around the sun and out to the Maritian orbital plane distance.
LewisM
07-02-2018, 08:00 PM
I guess that The Stig will no longer judge the Photo forum if it's out there drifting in space in a Tesla.
He went in peace for all Stig-kind...
Deeno
07-02-2018, 09:39 PM
Overshot...going to end up in the asteroid belt between mars and Jupiter...
baileys2611
08-02-2018, 12:07 PM
Took a wrong turn and ended up at Ceres orbit instead of Mars :rofl:
baileys2611
08-02-2018, 12:20 PM
Everyone saw this yes? Somewhere inside the car.
Andy01
08-02-2018, 01:16 PM
This.... :thumbsup:
pmrid
08-02-2018, 01:25 PM
That's great. Really clever juxtapositions.
Petyer
Thanks Glen :). Some folks over on our facebook page were wondering the same thing & probably on the minds of several people.
gts055
08-02-2018, 03:12 PM
I wonder how long the red paint remains red and the time to begin shedding pieces of degraded vinyl/plastic due to uv exposure. Perhaps a Tesla cometary trail/tail ? :) Mark
jenchris
08-02-2018, 03:32 PM
The paint is already etched from the van allen belt. Pitted and grey.
baileys2611
08-02-2018, 03:42 PM
Don't think they 'Wattyled' that part. Probably no primer either.
deanm
08-02-2018, 04:07 PM
I figured SpaceX must have arranged vents in each tyre, otherwise - in a vacuum - they would explode! (or at least blow the rims).
Any car component that could contain air would need to be vented (a bit of drilling needed?!)
I very much like Mark's suggestion of a 'Tesla comet' - that would be v. cool!
Dean
AndrewJ
08-02-2018, 04:56 PM
They might swell up a bit but i doubt they would explode, after all its only a "relative" 15 PSI change, and if a tyre can stay on a rim whilst cornering hard at 100mph, im sure it will stay on when a bit over inflated.
Andrew
julianh72
08-02-2018, 05:08 PM
If they were "flat" but full of air and sealed at launch, they would now only be inflated to a net pressure of ~100 kPa, or roughly half the normal inflation pressure.
If they were fully inflated at launch (~200 kPa say), they would now be at ~300 kPa, which would be very hard for road use, but would not be enough to blow the tyres or the rims.
sheeny
08-02-2018, 06:26 PM
Does anyone know the satellite name for the Tesla and Starman? It is visible?
Al.
billdan
08-02-2018, 08:09 PM
According to this scientist the car will only last 12 months before the radiation reduces it to its metal frame.
https://www.livescience.com/61680-will-spacex-roadster-survive-in-space.html
And of course the flat-earthers says the whole event is another hoax.
https://www.livescience.com/61688-flat-earthers-spacex-falcon-heavy-conspiracy.html?utm_source=notifica tion
Yeah Al, it's designation is "Nikola Bowie".
:D
skysurfer
08-02-2018, 09:42 PM
And it is a nice publicity stunt.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/feb/07/elon-musk-spacex-launch-utterly-depressing
And this costs his company too much ?
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/feb/07/tesla-quarterly-loss-elon-musk-spacex
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