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In a 9 Nov 2017 article in The Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/science/2017/nov/08/zombie-star-amazes-astronomers-by-surviving-multiple-supernovae), Science Editor Ian Sample reports
on the mysterious case of iPTF14hls, a star in Ursa Major that has
undergone a supernova power explosion multiple times since 1954.
The first star ever observed to have done so.
Article here :-
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2017/nov/08/zombie-star-amazes-astronomers-by-surviving-multiple-supernovae
Abstract and paper in Nature (requires subscription) "Energetic eruptions leading to a peculiar hydrogen-rich explosion of a massive star" by Arcavi et. al. :-
https://www.nature.com/articles/nature24030
xelasnave
10-11-2017, 01:33 PM
Thanks for posting that Gary and all the posts you do ..its great.
alex
Thank you Alex. You are most welcome.
Sarah Kaplan is also writing about it in the Washington Post today :-
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/speaking-of-science/wp/2017/11/08/the-strangest-supernova-weve-ever-seen-a-star-that-keeps-exploding-and-surviving
and Amina Khan in the LA Times :-
http://www.latimes.com/science/sciencenow/la-sci-sn-long-lasting-supernova-20171108-story.html
Stan Woosey has a draft Jan 2017 paper on "Pulsational Pair-Instability Supernovae" on arXiv here :-
https://arxiv.org/pdf/1608.08939.pdf
Perhaps he was on the money. I hadn't heard of the classification until today.
Some astronomers apparently theorize that the 1843 eruption of Eta Carinae A might be an example of a pulsational pair-instability supernovae.
This latest stars published brightness and light curve look phenomenal.
Whatever diet it is on is rich on energy!
Best Regards
Gary Kopff
Mount Kuring-Gai NSW
xelasnave
10-11-2017, 02:51 PM
I am wondering about it being another star.
If a super nova happens I expect material would be blown into space and possibly caused mass to be added to a nearby star such to cause its mass to get to a collapse point.
Perhaps binaries.
I guess any idea seems more reasonable than just one behaving as the observations suggest.
Anyways I will follow up with my scope.;)
Alex
Eratosthenes
10-11-2017, 11:09 PM
"....An even earlier explosion appears to have happened in 1954 when a burst of light was detected from the same location. The group’s calculations show there is a 95 to 99% chance it was the same star."
95 to 99% chance:D
xelasnave
11-11-2017, 12:22 AM
But a 5% chance it was a coincidence...someone said.
A double bunger is more newsworthy and other things.
Alex
Dave2042
11-11-2017, 10:06 AM
It's a legitimate reason to be a bit skeptical.
That said, it's worth remembering that 95% is very certain by the standards of observational astrophysics. The high sigma levels that particle physics produces are entirely due to having a computerised accelerator doing gazillions of repetitions of the same experiment. A luxury astrophysics doesn't have.
Transporting the particle mindset to astrophysics is not really sensible.
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