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strongmanmike
26-10-2017, 01:00 AM
Well some 18 months after its inception in my mind....I don't know what to say really :question:...other than I am utterly flabbergasted...I knew this scope was good and that it had a great reputation (hence why I went with it over other scopes) but it is not until you see it with your own eyes and use it for yourself that you finally understand ... :jawdrop:
Because I had work the next day, I only went out to test the operation of the whole new rig, to make sure the NJP was going to handle the massive load (http://www.pbase.com/strongmanmike2002/image/166437746/original) for slews and guiding, get the MegaMOAG setup, see if there was any image plane tilt and generally shake down the system...and the whole shebang worked flawlessly first go :eyepop: all essentially perfect :shrug:...so I did a first light image
The NJP handled the almost 100kg total load riding on it, no slipping when doing gotos, the MegaMOAG was easy to setup and the auto guiding was bloody perfect, dithering worked and the Robofocus worked perfectly too, even when the massive imaging end (ProLine16803+CFW-5-7+MegaMOAG and Lodestar) was hanging nearly straight down and scope pointing nearly straight up! No obvious image plane tilt was evident and the focus held stable for the whole 3 hours of imaging this field, with only one small tweak of two button presses near the end...
After sitting idle for 4 years, the big FLI Proline 16803 worked without a hitch, like it had never stopped....
I really have to give the kit and whole setup one of these... :bowdown: man, was I happy :D
Then the first frame came down :help:...and I was totally floored :scared2: a massive 4deg X 4deg field full of pin point stars corner to corner..so again, essentially perfect :prey: :prey2:
The only negative was I had no flat field panel....that arrived just today :thumbsup: so the small amount of vignetting could not be flattened out...next time :)
So Pickle me Grandmother...Happy days :cool:
Here is the full res first light image, the small attachment below is only a crop so please open the big file and go for a swim
This is a modest exposure with minimal processing, test image - all capture details are under the image:
SMC and 47Tuc (http://www.pbase.com/strongmanmike2002/image/166457068/original) Now with flats (Full frame 100% Full Res image 20meg) please feel free to zoom out in your browser to fit it all on your screen.
The sky is the limit now :)
Mike
Joshua Bunn
26-10-2017, 01:57 AM
Isn't it just fantastic when it works like i was suppose to, loved reading your write up, and looking forward to more of your great shots like this Mike.
Josh
Atmos
26-10-2017, 06:14 AM
Fantastic Mike! Isn’t is just wonderful when everything works.
Are you now to have both rigs going at once? Go both low and high resolution.
el_draco
26-10-2017, 06:23 AM
Wall to wall... :thumbsup:
Octane
26-10-2017, 08:05 AM
Haha, welcome to the club!
H
RickS
26-10-2017, 09:07 AM
Congrats on the first light, Mike!
Andy01
26-10-2017, 09:54 AM
Congratulations Mike - an awesome start to widefield imaging with your new toys :)
The blues though, are they really that iridescent in the SMC?
I can't comare as I havn't imaged that area myself but your image sure has some vibrancy :eyepop:
Well done, can't wait to see what's on your target list! :thumbsup:
Stevec35
26-10-2017, 10:42 AM
A very nice first light Mike. The globular clusters look great but I'm a bit bothered about the SMC. It looks too iridescently blue to me and a bit flat. Interesting comment about the focus holding steady. You usually have to refocus my FSQ every 30 minutes or so. Takahashi must have done something to improve that.
Cheers
Steve
strongmanmike
26-10-2017, 10:42 AM
Ha ha thanks for sharing in my child like glee guys :thumbsup: and Andy yeah t'is pretty blue in the light of day :eyepop:, somewhat Tony Hallas like even huh? :lol: there are a few other bluish versions out there and I do like blue though :) was only a test image so no biggy
I just can't believe that the whole rig worked so perfectly so easily...I mean how the hell does this NJP handle such a massive load so well :eyepop: :)
Mike
gregbradley
26-10-2017, 10:53 AM
That's a great first use. Its great when everything works straight away. A bit of a rare experience so savour it! Nice writeup, your excitement over this new scope is palpable.
Your NJP is an outstanding copy of the mount. Mine was good but I doubt it would've done that.
Greg.
strongmanmike
26-10-2017, 11:01 AM
:lol:...must be the Italian in me (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCFEk6Y8TmM)?..passion
yeah I love this NJP it just can not be faultered...
FlashDrive
26-10-2017, 11:30 AM
That's huge ....great result. :)
Col...
strongmanmike
26-10-2017, 11:40 AM
Yeah I know Steve, you are probably right, the colour wasn't reeeeally the point here though, it was just a first light and hey, I like blue ...few other blue versions out there though.
Yes, I was surprised to see the focus hold so well too, I collected LRGB, in that order and only had to refocus when the green started and only two presses of the Robo focus buttons. Anyway time will tell, maybe I was just over excited and it will all fall in a heap...:lol:
SimmoW
26-10-2017, 11:46 AM
Yep, that's TAK sharp right! Great to see your first light come so easily, mine's been a beatch but worth all the effort, and learning heaps along the way
strongmanmike
26-10-2017, 12:16 PM
Cheers Simon, yes I feel blessed that my rig is so reliable and easy to use...even if it is a challenge to duck and weave around inside the dome in the dark, to keep my bulky frame from hitting anything :lol:
Mike
Slawomir
26-10-2017, 06:05 PM
Awesome news Mike, thank you for sharing.
Yes, it is rare to read that everything goes so smoothly right out of the box, so it is a double pleasure to read your post :thumbsup:
batema
26-10-2017, 06:24 PM
Magnificent first light Mike. You must be so excited. Can't wait for the images to come.
Mark
Great image indeed, :) and what a Scope, :thumbsup:been there,
Leon :thumbsup:
alpal
26-10-2017, 08:15 PM
Hi Mike,
it's a good idea to have 2 telescopes on one mount -
you can get 2 pictures at the same time!
From now on we'll all expect a wide field and a closeup when you post. :)
cheers
Allan
strongmanmike
26-10-2017, 08:45 PM
Cheers Suavi, I have to say although the setup worked well straight up, there had been a few delays with order problems and I had some trepidation on how it would all work, not to mention the long wait for the finances to come to fuition just to buy the damn thing! Would I be bitterly disappointed or would I have lots of connection issues or what if, what if.....? :prey: so, as Greg said, the relief was indeed palpable :)
Thanks so much Mark, me too :thumbsup:
Thanks Leon :)
Huh! I can't actually do that, the two scopes are as wide as the shutter opening, I would be turning the dome every few minutes :lol:...unless I get dome automation...:question:
dylan_odonnell
26-10-2017, 10:15 PM
100kg ?!?!
You're still breaking weightlifting records Mike 😂
That's just not right. You can't get everything working first try!
Next you're going to tell us the weather was fine the moment you had it all set up too?? :D
Placidus
26-10-2017, 10:36 PM
A joyous result. We are thrilled on your behalf. A very well thought out system, and a beautiful unrehearsed first light.
strongmanmike
26-10-2017, 11:34 PM
Ha ha yeah you should'a seen me holding onto the whole shebang with the Dec axis horizontal, all the scopes and cameras on one side, I had to hold it all with my left side while my right side unscrewed the thread Tak 6.5kg weight so I could slide the weight plates on and off in different combinations and screw the 6.5kg back on each time.. the RA clutch wouldn't hold, I had to stop it all swinging down and smashing into the pier!..it was hair raising and at one point I thought shight I might not be able to do this :help:...but I dug deep and just did it, caused a few beads of sweat :)
Well Rob, I was suitably amazed too and yes as soon as it was all setup on Sun it was indeed perfectly clear, steady and transparent...Sunday night was almost a religious experience :lol:
Thanks guys, like I needed any more...it has renewed my enthusiasm for this caper :thumbsup:
Mike
dylan_odonnell
26-10-2017, 11:39 PM
Hah! I'm just a little guy and I can get the 11" on myself but always rope a visitor into the OTA changeover. 100 kgs is INSANE! and with such expensive equipment! A hernia aside I would've **** myself regardless given the stakes 😂
strongmanmike
26-10-2017, 11:43 PM
The things we do.... :thumbsup:
Great first light Mike. That’s a hell of a setup you have there! How much fun are you going to have!
multiweb
27-10-2017, 08:23 AM
Massive fov. Would take 4 panels to cover the same area. :thumbsup:
strongmanmike
27-10-2017, 11:14 AM
You're not wrong Dave :thumbsup:...most excited I have been since back in 2011 when the AG12 arrived :P
(http://www.pbase.com/strongmanmike2002/image/132998028/original)
You mean with your camera..?
Mike
graham.hobart
27-10-2017, 11:15 AM
very nice !:thumbsup:
multiweb
27-10-2017, 12:33 PM
Yeah QHY8.
Atmos
27-10-2017, 01:19 PM
If I’d have tried that Mike your setup would have just lifted me off the ground haha
strongmanmike
27-10-2017, 01:22 PM
Cheers Graham :)
Right got it...actually looking at that and given you need some overlap, you might even need to take 6 panels? You would have slightly finer image scale though :)
Mike
strongmanmike
27-10-2017, 01:30 PM
Yeah after I got the telescopes all balanced...I went out and did the same with a few pints of my favourite beer Crankshaft...
strongmanmike
27-10-2017, 06:10 PM
Even though just a test image...I decided to reprocess and fix the blue saturation and the registration error I had, much better now I think? :thumbsup:
Same link in OP (http://www.pbase.com/strongmanmike2002/image/166457068/original)
Mike
markas
27-10-2017, 06:38 PM
Hi Mike,
I agree - it looks great now!
Mark
strongmanmike
27-10-2017, 07:30 PM
Thanks so much Mark, yeah better for sure...I was being lazy cus it was just a test image :P
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