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strongmanmike
04-10-2017, 08:48 PM
I had collected some data on this almost exactly a year ago and never completed it, so with a 3/4 Moon smack in the middle of Aquarius on Sun night...there weren't much else to shoot so I thought meah, I'll grab some more on it. Not the best to shoot OIII with so much Moon but meah...hear ya go :)
It was surprisingly faint actually but hopefully the subtle approach worked..? :question:
Anyway, here is a SIIHaOIII narrowband verison with some RGB for the stars
BTW note the really faint Ha bubble lower left, thought that was perdy cool :)
NGC 456 (http://www.pbase.com/strongmanmike2002/image/166317964/original)
HaRGB (http://www.pbase.com/strongmanmike2002/image/166361690/original) version
Mike
Andy01
04-10-2017, 08:54 PM
Looking good Mike - love the framing and composition. :painting:
Not sure about the colour palatte for my taste though, someone once said "blue & green should never be seen without a colour in between..."
But the RGB stars give it some colour balance, colour palatte is highly subjective and rules are meant to be broken so hey, well done!:thumbsup:
Slawomir
04-10-2017, 08:56 PM
Interesting target Mike, I do not recall seeing it before. As always, very well processed :thumbsup: and perhaps a bit different from your usual targets :question:
P.S. Your images frequently make me think of getting a fast Newton...
RickS
04-10-2017, 10:45 PM
Nice work on the "dangly bits" Mike :lol: It's good to see an unusual subject as the main attraction and I like the offbeat colouring as well.
Cheers,
Rick.
Placidus
05-10-2017, 07:59 AM
We like that a lot, Mike.
We had a go at this a long time ago (https://photos.smugmug.com/Category/Star-Forming-Regions/i-bwDMD8J/0/7dd5bde9/O/Mermaid%27s%20Pantry%2C%20NGC%20456 .jpg) before we mended our rotten ways. Your use of RGB stars and your processing makes your version clean and pleasing. We had no idea about dithering between frames, so we had a lot of tiny defects that you've avoided.
We called it the Mermaid's Kitchen. There is a giant blue strawberry at six o'clock. Immediately toward top right of the strawberry is a jellyfish. Presumably mermaids eat them. You've got the finest structures in the jellyfish beautifully! Up toward two o'clock is the head of a dolphin. The reclining mermaid is herself only hinted at by a pair of curvy bits with impressive cleavage in the centre, surrounded at by a diaphanous gown.
It was fun comparing the two versions, seeing that we agree on the undelying nebulosity but have presented it in different ways.
Atmos
05-10-2017, 08:06 AM
That’s really nice Mike. I’ve done it in RGB and Ha but not OIII or SII. It looks reasonably devoid of SII.
strongmanmike
05-10-2017, 02:32 PM
Cheers everyone :thumbsup:
Wasn't overly happy with this really, couldn't work with the data too well. I had rotated the camera since the previous imaging session a year ago and in the meantime I had a lap top repair earlier this year including a new hard drive, so the original files weren't in the laptop when I started out at the observatory, so I didn't have a reference frame to match up with...sooo I just guessed the framing based on memory. Needless to say my guess was off by a bit and this resulted in serious cropping being necessary, hence the bubble at the bottom left being cut in half :doh:
.... but meah, an image is an image :)
Andy, if you map SII to Red, Ha to green and OIII to Blue...this is what ya get, one must heavily tweek and remix it to change it to something else (which is fine to do BTW). The Red SII was just in the edges of the nebulosity, hence it is mustard in those bits, the OIII is confined mostly to the big bright patches, hence they are quite Blue and of course Ha is very dominant so plenty of green mixed in the rest of the image. This resulted in what I think is still a mix of more than just green and blue as there are turquoise and mustard hues in places too...but yes green and blue are the dominant colours/hues ....that's just da Physics I guess? :)
I might do an Ha RGB version yet too :question: :thumbsup:
Mike and Trish, yeah I remember yours, t'was a good'un despite your Learner plates :D I remembered that faint bubble in your shot too but as I said above, errors in my reframing over the space of a year meant it got cut off :sadeyes:....
Mike
Shiraz
05-10-2017, 08:32 PM
That's an interesting structure - haven't seen it before.
Really neat image as is - should also look great as an Ha RGB.
gregbradley
05-10-2017, 09:51 PM
Interesting object. This different to NGC346 right? (they look similar but I am not sure - http://www.pbase.com/gregbradley/image/161910491/large).
These SMC and LMC nebula make very interesting imaging targets and are rarely imaged. They really suit the SX694.
Greg.
strongmanmike
05-10-2017, 10:08 PM
Cheers Ray, you know me, like to image less well known targets most of the time :) I'll have a crack at an HaRGB and see how it looks :)
Hmmm? should you have gone to specsavers Greg..? :question: :lol:...seriously, I guess there is some vague similarity but yes NGC 456 is different to NGC 346 and I recon probably a little more interesting appearence...?
I agree shooting the various nebs in these close galaxies, especially in the LMC, is something that could keep me busy for the rest of my days :)
Mike
atalas
07-10-2017, 03:19 AM
Hey good object ain't It....not sure If the strong colour is hiding the fine structure though Mike....or maybe not.
Looks good anyway:thumbsup:
strongmanmike
07-10-2017, 10:50 AM
Thanks Louie, nah I think it is just not a fine structure rich object :shrug: not much structure in M&T's shot (https://photos.smugmug.com/Category/Star-Forming-Regions/i-bwDMD8J/0/7dd5bde9/O/Mermaid%27s%20Pantry%2C%20NGC%20456 .jpg) with the 20" Planewave either. It's certainly faint though...I guess it is 200,000 light years away :lol:
Mike
peter_4059
07-10-2017, 12:23 PM
Interesting object and nice capture Mike.
strongmanmike
08-10-2017, 04:07 PM
Thanks Pete, not imaged very often this one :)
Mike
alpal
08-10-2017, 09:33 PM
Nice pic Mike,
I had to look at Stellarium to see where it was -
way over on the edge of the SMC -
the opposite side from Tuc 47.
Did you try any other color mapping?
cheers
Allan
Ryderscope
08-10-2017, 10:00 PM
''Tis a good rendition of this object. The SHO palette fits the bill.
strongmanmike
08-10-2017, 10:30 PM
Cheers Al and Rod just added an HaRGB version
Mike
strongmanmike
08-10-2017, 10:30 PM
I've now added a more natural colour HaRGB (http://www.pbase.com/strongmanmike2002/image/166361690/original) version
Mike
traveller
08-10-2017, 10:41 PM
I like the image, it’s quite a “ballsy” shot :lol:
Bo
rustigsmed
09-10-2017, 10:18 AM
nice one Mike!
Both versions look great.
I imaged this a while ago too, narrowband with a warm DSLR ... :screwy:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/80336656@N07/21163199634/in/dateposted-public/
no matter what i did i couldn't pull the fainter stuff above the noise.
Cheers
Russ
atalas
09-10-2017, 04:58 PM
Looks good in both I recon :thumbsup: I lean towards natural colour for my taste.
Andy01
09-10-2017, 05:06 PM
Looks great in HaRGB Mike - well done :)
strongmanmike
09-10-2017, 09:32 PM
Ah don't be such a dick Bo :P...like triangles in the stars, can a penus, be found in all pareidolia :question:
Yeah it's quite a faint bugger actually, so not surprised you had such difficulty Russ
Yeah me too Louie
Thanks Andy
Ryderscope
09-10-2017, 10:04 PM
Ok, now I can't decide which one I like best :confused2:
strongmanmike
09-10-2017, 10:08 PM
Ah well Rod...just spread the luv :love:
ha ha me neither...but perhaps lean toward the vibrant coloured stars in the HaRGB version...?
marc4darkskies
11-10-2017, 05:36 PM
Mmmmm ... natural colour! <sigh> All is good with the world again! ;) Lovely shot Mike.
strongmanmike
11-10-2017, 10:32 PM
Ah you NB Newbee :lol:....but yes, out if the two I also prefer the HaRGB version :)
Mike
Stevec35
11-10-2017, 11:52 PM
Nice shot of one of my favourite areas of the SMC Mike. I've imaged this a few times over the years. I'm surprised it isn't better known.
Cheers
Steve
strongmanmike
12-10-2017, 09:32 PM
Cheers Steve, apart from the gonad area...its surprisingly faint, so that probable doesnt help....
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