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xelasnave
30-12-2006, 04:07 PM
Sandy,Sascha, myself and Leroy the mother dog, have spent the day down on the Clarence about a klm from here.. we were packing up to come home and Sandy was about to repack the "things"... she was about to reach in the bag when she noticed a little black snake had made it home:eyepop: ..we must have only been there for three hours and its mainly sand with some poor grass hanging on.. how we or the dog did not see it earlier is a worry:shrug: . Anyways Sandy threw the bag a couple of metres away and it crawed off a metre and hid in a clump of grass:) .. it was only 2 ft pretty chubby for that short however. Sorry I was not composed enough to remember a photo.
Poor old Leroy did not notice the snake crawl away even, so her days as "Snake Dog" are over it seems.
alex

dugnsuz
30-12-2006, 09:31 PM
That was a very close encounter Alex.
Glad man and beast made it back unscathed!
Cheers
Doug:thumbsup:

spacezebra
30-12-2006, 10:33 PM
Yikes:eyepop: - that was a close call!

Cheers Petra

jjjnettie
31-12-2006, 12:33 AM
Yowzers!

Ric
31-12-2006, 02:33 AM
Hi Alex, they move so quickly and quietly that sometimes you just dont see them.
I have been sitting by our dam and literally had big browns just pass right beside me and into the water before I can even react.
Freaky stuff thats for sure.

Cheers

xelasnave
31-12-2006, 06:52 PM
The guy I have up home to keep an eye on things told me he found a brown snake in the laundry. He recons he got it by the tail and dragged it backwards and let it go at the dam. He recons when you drag them slowly they want to go the other way so when you let then go they want to go in the opposite direction to you..sounds good but I am not grabbing any snake by the tail.
Anyways heres some other fotos ..I was trying out the 300mm lens and caught these now wild goats up in the rocks... and mother dog and Sascha
alex

CoombellKid
01-01-2007, 10:13 AM
chubby for it's length, sounds to me like a death adder.

We've removed a few here this summer so far. 2 red belly blacks, 1
eastern brown and as couple of stright browns. Oh yeah the green
snake in the bathroom while the missus was on the toilet lol

regards,CS sunny snake free days

Dujon
01-01-2007, 10:15 AM
It must be that time of year, Alex.

Christmas Day enticed a whip snake into my yard. A long thin thing - I don't think I've seen one before - probably a couple of feet long but not particularly enhanced girthwise. My son caught it, allowed my granddaughter to feel what a snake really feels like (they are not slimey) and then released it.


No, snakes don't worry me - apart from being wary in their presence - I was sitting on the throne at the time. The shout "I've got it" did raise my interest level though. I don't know what variety it was but apparently they are not (usually) fatally venomous but can give you nasty symptoms should you be unfortunate enough to become a victim. The only reason it was noticed was because one of our cats was showing much interest in it. On close inspection the poor thing had multiple wounds - presumably from the cat's claws and/or teeth.

We've had a few red-bellied blacks around the place, mostly juveniles (where's mum!), but no browns as far as I know.

Ric
01-01-2007, 10:19 AM
:scared: I wouldn't grab anything thing that has fangs attached, I'll just call the wildlife officers, they are trained and know what to do :D.

cheers

CoombellKid
01-01-2007, 12:01 PM
I'm not sure about in the cities or maybe close to major townships and it
is not like we're right out in the boonies. But when I called for help to remove
the first brown snake we had out here. They said sure but it's going to cost
cost $175.00 we found a cheaper solution for a $1.50

regards,CS sunny days

jjjnettie
01-01-2007, 01:54 PM
Ok Rob, I'll bite, what was your $1.50 solution?

Dujon
01-01-2007, 02:22 PM
Hmmm, 'Nettie. I'm off to check the price of a shotgun cartridge.

CoombellKid
01-01-2007, 04:38 PM
jjjnettie,

I no longer wish to further incriminate myself :whistle:, but John maybe has
the right idea.

But I do have this to say, I have no problem with or fear of snakes.
Hell I've been observing for 4+ years in my lil spot and I still wear thongs
at night. but when there are lil tots about:scared: , then I will use any measure
to remove them from the house/yard. Tots come first :D

regards,CS sunny days

Outbackmanyep
01-01-2007, 05:21 PM
hmmmm #4's seem to do the trick!

CoombellKid
01-01-2007, 05:37 PM
Unfortunately they tend to make a mess of the furnishings:eyepop:

regards,CS sunny days

ving
01-01-2007, 06:20 PM
I am a bit of a reptile lover. glad the lil' guy didnt get hurt and no one got biten :)

I had a whip snake once as a pet, it bit my brother and his finger swelled up for a bit then subsided. interesting to watch :)

Ric
01-01-2007, 06:35 PM
Hi Rob, thats a bit rude of them to charge a $175. The local WIRES people down here dont charge, they just tell to close the doors to the area of the house and they come out and remove the critter.
I have also heard that certain types of plants if grown in pots by doors ill deter snakes from entering because of the scent in the air but I'll have to research which ones they are.

Cheers

ving
01-01-2007, 07:20 PM
I cant blame the snakes for avioding goode olde mary jane, i cant stand the stuff either :P

Ric
01-01-2007, 07:27 PM
Hi Ving, I dont know if thats one of them :lol:
But at least they would be in a good mood :rofl:

Cheers

CoombellKid
01-01-2007, 07:47 PM
Ric,

It was WIRES who we rang. I have removed 3 brown, 2 red belly blacks
and 3-4 greeen snakes from inside the house over about 4 years. The
last greeen snake was last week. I have no problem removing green
snakes. But when you live a half hour+ from the local hospital, that
maybe has anti-venom, sorry to say the other snakes loses out.
Although I rather a red belly black in the yard than a brown, they
generally want to go in the other direction.

btw, I do try the lasso on a stick first, if that fails well...

Not sure about mary jane, but a neighbour has these flowers that are
meant to do the same, the name I cant remember.

regards,CS sunny days

Ric
02-01-2007, 11:38 AM
Hi Rob, I can see how it would add up to be a costly exercise. I they are doing the same down here then snake cowards like me wont have a choice I suppose.
I always thought they were a volunteer organisation and hence free services.

Cheers

CoombellKid
03-01-2007, 01:27 AM
Brown snakes generally wont hang around when red belly black's are about,
they tend to kill them off, which actually is a good thing because red belly
black's tend to be very shy of humans. If you have Red Belly black's it's
probably because there are mice about.

regards,CS sunny days

Dujon
03-01-2007, 10:29 AM
Thanks, Rob. Yes, the little fellows I had about the place didn't even try to attack the stick I was using to guide them elsewhere so I figured they were relatively safe to approach. I'm still not sure that I'd like to do the same with a full grown six-footer though.

Mice? Don't know to be honest. I haven't seen any (or traces) in the house, workshop or garden shed. Then again, I've a couple of resident cats. I also have a creek-cum-drain that runs down the side of my property - unfortunately dry for months at a time - which I believe attracts the RBBs. Perhaps the frogs?

neB
03-01-2007, 12:15 PM
Sure is snake season. My Mrs found one on her sewing table under some material over Christmas. Just a little carpet snake but I heard the scream outside at the other end of the house while painting.

I've heard that snakes don't like geraniums. But with with a big house on acreage I'd have to plant thousands of them to make any sort of barrier.

CoombellKid
03-01-2007, 05:00 PM
I wouldn't consider RBB's safe to aproach, their bite is just as deadly
as any brown. If they are cornered they will have a go at you. Leave them
be imediately on hearing them hiss or start to figure of 8. If they have an
exit path they will leave. Where a Brown will attack as soon as it feels
threaten.



You'd be right there, frogs are a favourite of RBB's. Green snakes go after
the mice. Sorry I always get that back to front :doh: we kinda have frog city,
and rabbit city here, brown snakes like rabbit holes. And rat-sak fixes the
vernim. But at least out here in the bush they dont come out of some sewer
pipe, actually I suppose they're organic vernim :lol: they like my darn garden
the lil beggers, especially the capsicum.

regards,CS sunny days

Dujon
04-01-2007, 10:52 AM
Interesting, Rob. I hadn't realised that the RBB was that venomous (at least to a healthy person). I really should do some research. My son, by the way, is well versed in snake handling and keeps snakes at his home. They are non-venomous pythons and, yes, he does have the requisite licenses etc..

In the interim: What are these Green Snakes of which you write? Where I used to live - about 3-4Km from my current residence - we used to see many a green Tree Snake (plus the odd goanna and kangaroo) which I had always considered to be innocuous and thus just left them alone. Another error of judgement?

Oddly enough we had the occasional RBB over there as well, even though the nearest creek was probably 100 metres away and 200 metres down over a cliff.

I did have a snake which I've never identified - not that I've done much checking - which was, approximately, two feet (600mm) long and was an overall light brown(ish) colour with creamy bands around. Girth not all that large - probably about 30 to 40mm in diameter. As I had young children at the time he was despatched, with much trepidation, courtesy of a garden spade.

ving
04-01-2007, 11:15 AM
sounds like a juvenile brown snake. they start thier lives banded :)

still just as dangerous an the grown ups :)

Dujon
04-01-2007, 12:12 PM
Perhaps, Ving, I don't know.

This image seems more appropriate. One of the locals at the time did in fact suggest it was a Tiger Snake even though he hadn't seen it.

http://images.google.com.au/imgres?imgurl=http://www.museum.vic.gov.au/bioinformatics/snake/images/scutlive6.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.museum.vic.gov.au/bioinformatics/snake/images/scutlive6.html&h=295&w=550&sz=50&hl=en&start=15&tbnid=JJvxLqx1P8hFCM:&tbnh=71&tbnw=133&prev=/images%3Fq%3DTiger%2Bsnake%26svnum% 3D10%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26sa%3DG

CoombellKid
05-01-2007, 02:55 AM
That right Ving, the young ones can be just as or even more venomous
then it's adult. Well thats what I have been lead to believe.

John, have a read here, I'm not a snake expert myself, just a bloke
who lives amoung them. And learnt what I know from local friends
and farmers. I've always known them to be lethal, but maybe that
is not entirely true, but like the info say's it should be treated as
such.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red-bellied_Black_Snake

Green snakes same as Tree snake, in your attic snake etc...etc... I
think they are all the same. all non-venomous like pythons. Yup we
have Roo's and Goanna's, and another variety which I think is of the
monitor variety which reach upto 2m in length.

regards,CS sunny days

FNQ_View
07-01-2007, 02:58 PM
I am no herpatologist ( snake expert ), but a word of advice about snakes - the ONLY reliable way to identify a snake is by scale count. For example around the Innisfail area - an RBB is a greeny blue colour ... easily confused with a harmless tree snake. Colour & patterning are a function of environment & diet ( caused up here by their diet of predominately green tree frogs I'm told ) Shape & behaviour are useful identifaction aids.

Mick