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LewisM
06-07-2017, 09:09 PM
...which speaks volumes in and of itself. Alien Covenant.

2 words: DON'T BOTHER!

I am a HUGE Alien fan (hence my Xenomorph avatar), and I was EAGERLY awaiting this one to HOPEFULLY fill some of the gaping maw of Prometheus plot holes. It doesn't - in fact, it exacerbates an already drive-a-container-ship through the plot holes.

It rambles on with inane human BS for a while (though I enjoyed the opening scenes with David and Weyland), trying to flesh out some really forgettable characters. I mean REALLY forgettable.

Then it starts stealing pieces from other sci-fi movies, not just Ridley Scott's own. The entire Covenant is totally reminiscent of Solaris (especially the fix-the-sails scene). Then the "Lets go searching for this random transmission that takes us to an alien planet (shades of Alien), then let's drop down in a drop ship to the planet (Aliens) without having first done any real scanning or research on the planet (nope, we just blindly go and suck it and see). We decide to stay there as our new home world, instead of the original with a ship full of colonists (insert MANY sci-fi movies here). We buzz the planet (Prometheus), and decide to land on the water (yeah, OK, that's kinda smart).

Armed bunch of crew (Aliens) goes adventuring in the woods, find a derelict Juggernought (that's the Engineer ship in case you aren't a fan) that took Shaw and David to this planet. We don't even get to see much of this, as one crew member is infected, then another...blah blah blah. New xenos "hatch", and run amok, then do a velociraptor triangulation hunt ala Jurassic Park. then out of nowhere, David appears...

Then we get at least SOME of the back story, which is the intersting parts, then that ends and we are back to hohum. Blah blah blah, boring boring boring...David is a sycopath...Walter is a good android...switch places blah blah blah blah...Hero pushes Alien into space in a vehicle/loader (Alien and Aliens) then into hypersleep and David does his other nasty stuff. How this is even remotely going to tie into the LV426/crashed Juggernaught full of eggs and a Space Jockey is anyone's guess, cause I cannot see how (unless the Engineers go to their infected planet and steal the remaining eggs...and then crsh...and then the rest is Alien)

Apparently they cut all the INTERESTING stuff out, as has been typical of Ridley Scott's stuff for ages now. The man has lost the plot. He's just makinghay while the sun shines. Well, he lost this fan. He missed SO many opportunities to make this great. I could have written a better script!!! (this really was a rehash of the entire franchise, mixed with the original Prometheus script)

3 out of 10. REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY droll! :mad2::mad2::mad2:

SO disappointed, I feel like writing Scott a letter. Ruin the franchise with 1.5 movies (Prometheus had at least potential to start the tie in...this one just made a preposterous leap)

dbowie
06-07-2017, 09:21 PM
Im devastated, been looking forward to this, if it aint broke dont fix it...

xelasnave
06-07-2017, 11:26 PM
I find all fiction disappointing.
Why indulge made up stuff when there is so much reality to review.
Alex

glend
07-07-2017, 01:44 AM
Thanks for the warning Lewis, i was hoping for this movie to tie the plot lines togerher. Looks like it will have to be avoided. At least Sigourny W managed to steer clear of it.

dbowie
16-07-2017, 02:07 PM
Well I watched Covenant and I gotta say I wasnt too dissappointed actually apart from the overly played love interest crap which permeates everything thesedays, I found it tied things together quite well and had a twist i wasnt expecting but wasnt surprised with so if your a Ridley Alien fan you will glean some familiar moments from Alien 1 done subtly with music and backing, I know I did def worth a look...:thumbs:

PS I agree with Lewism on all points this could have been so much better quite easily....

DarkArts
16-07-2017, 07:23 PM
Two colleagues told me it was "great and really takes the Alien saga in a good direction". Needless to say, my estimation of them has fallen considerably.

I was quite disappointed: so much potential; so little realised.

Blood and gore is fine if necessary to tell the story (the chest-burster in the original Alien was done extremely well - an iconic moment in cinema) but the horror parts in this one were mechanical, emotionless, overplayed ... and boring. And I don't mean it needed "more gore" to make it watchable. If anything, it needed less given the story's context.

And I firmly agree with Lewis: So. Many. Plot. Holes.

Sigh. When will Hollywood get back to making sci-fi for people with a reading age over 8 and an attention span longer than 20 minutes?

rcheshire
16-07-2017, 07:41 PM
Presumably, when they employ the same.

sil
17-07-2017, 03:49 PM
Just looked, movie poster clearly stolen artwork (homage they call it when hollywood steals) from The Devil's Advocate. Giger would be rolling in his grave, they just keep watering down original design, just looks sad. Is it full of cheesy gimmicks for the 3D glasses crowd?