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Maurice
31-01-2017, 07:26 PM
Hi all
Just starting a new image project.
Cometary globules CG30 (top right) and CG31 (centre) of this 6hr Ha image (in 20min subs) need a lot more imaging time. Surprised how faint they are in Ha. Hate to think how long its going to take in OIII.
Looks like an interesting region with HH120 in the 'head' of CG30. The whole complex is in the area of the 'stern' of the old constellation of Argo Navis... now in Puppis.
This might take a couple of years to complete..
GSO RC14 @2830mm fl QHY9 Baader Ha ASI120MM + OAG EQ8
cheers
Maurice
strongmanmike
31-01-2017, 07:36 PM
Wow Maurice spooky huh? it's a very cool object and you've made a great start...but be prepared to hit the exposure time though :eyepop:
Mike
Maurice
31-01-2017, 08:07 PM
Cheers Mike.
Yeah...Its going to take while to get this one at f/8 from Melbourne.
I rekon it would be a great object with your rig at f/4 ish.
There aren't many shots of it around the 'net. Best I've seen is from Rolf Olsen a few years back... but it loses the the extension when only in RGB.
Might be one to consider....?
Paul Haese
01-02-2017, 10:43 AM
Maurice I am looking forward to seeing the end result of this field. It's very intriguing.
Atmos
01-02-2017, 11:54 AM
That's an interesting region, looking forward to seeing what a LOT more exposure time will reveal ;)
strongmanmike
01-02-2017, 12:43 PM
Indeed..... :question:...too many objects not enough time, ah sigh.....:rolleyes:
I think I will just sit back and enjoy your project, so keep posting :thumbsup:
Mike
Placidus
01-02-2017, 05:43 PM
A worthy project proceeding nicely.
The gloomy mood reminds us of the Burghers of Calais (http://www.glyptoteket.com/sites/default/files/styles/zoom_large/public/rodin_borgerne_fra_calais_1884-1885_1.jpg) by Rodin.
alpal
01-02-2017, 06:44 PM
Hi Maurice,
we don't have to wait forever -
the giant Subaru 8.2m telescope got it.
https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap131012.html
Still it will be interesting to see what a more humble telescope
can pick up with this faint one!
cheers
Allan
Atmos
01-02-2017, 07:49 PM
Maurice, not that you've started down this path we all EXPECT you to beat the Subaru!! ;)
RickS
02-02-2017, 10:18 PM
A great start, Maurice!
Maurice
04-02-2017, 06:13 PM
Thanks Paul. We'll see how it goes, but there dosen't seem to be much there except for Ha... time will tell
I've managed another 6hrs over the past couple of nights (for a total of 12), but as you'd expect, its a case of diminishing returns. I'll take Ha out to 24hrs, but I'm not prepared to give it any more than that...
A very apt comparison M&T... Might need an aperture like yours though to to collect enough photons in the end..
Thanks Allan. I hadn't seen the Subaru image before. I really should have picked a more do-able object, I think..
Not a chance Colin...but I'll give it a go anyway..
Thanks Rick..
Maurice
04-02-2017, 06:15 PM
Added a second image with 12hrs total Ha...
Found I could push the stretch a bit more before excessive noise creeps in.
alpal
04-02-2017, 10:58 PM
Hi Maurice,
You sure do pick hard targets. :)
cheers
Allan
Maurice
11-02-2017, 04:17 PM
Ha is up to 18hrs now and its changed very little from when I had 12hrs of data...
Might have to leave it at this..
The stack finished just over 2" FWHM, but there is only a 100ADU change from the darker to the brighter regions of the nebulosity.
That means that its only a signal difference of about 100/65000x22000(full well)=33e-
The read noise in the QHY9 is about 10e-, and the signal range that I'm interested in is only a change of 33e-.... I'm bound to have problems...
strongmanmike
14-02-2017, 12:13 PM
Nice comparison there Maurice, yes she is a faint one but looking good so far :thumbsup:
Mike
Atmos
14-02-2017, 05:38 PM
The contrast has improved as you've increased the exposure but there is a point of diminishing returns.
Maurice
16-02-2017, 10:28 PM
Thanks Mike.
Trying to rack up the hours with SII ATM...Not much there after 4hrs.:shrug:
Yep. Trying SII now. We'll see if there's anything there..
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