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Stevec35
23-01-2017, 10:55 PM
This image of Eta Carinae reaches no great heights but it's only a first light. For the 14.5" I binned everything 2x2 giving 12 micron pixels but I eventually plan to use this camera with my FSQ106 when I get round to attaching it to the main scope. I was planning to do a narrow band version but that is not currently feasible with the weather.

Cheers

Steve

http://members.pcug.org.au/~stevec/eta_carinae_STXL16200_RC14_HaRGB.jp g

Atmos
23-01-2017, 11:19 PM
Very nice Steve!! :thumbsup:

Stevec35
24-01-2017, 07:44 AM
Thanks Colin.

Paul Haese
24-01-2017, 12:03 PM
An interesting rendering Steve. What treatment are you using for the sharpening?

I can see why you would be using it on the FSQ. It will have better resolution than using an 11002 sensor and a nice field of view too.

atalas
24-01-2017, 02:52 PM
Nice work Steve:thumbsup:in your face with close up detail....congrats on the new camera.

I've been thinking about getting one of these 16200 chipped cameras but probably stick with Fli.

Stevec35
24-01-2017, 02:56 PM
Paul, I'm using a combination of PI wavelet and deconvolution processing and PS contrast tweaks but I'm not happy with the result and I'm currently trying to reprocess. It should still be useful with the 14.5" though as binning 2x2 gives about .75 arcsec per pixel but I agree it's really a camera for short focus telescopes. I have an astrophysics reducer for the RCOS which brings it back to about F7.5. That might be interesting.

Stevec35
24-01-2017, 03:00 PM
Thanks Louie. Can't see how you would go wrong with FLI. Of course the current definitive Carina nebula image in my view is Peter Ward's magnificent effort with his 16". My image is nowhere near that.

topheart
24-01-2017, 03:26 PM
Hi Steve,
Wonderful first light - I look forward to seeing more from this setup.
Cheers,
Tim

Stevec35
24-01-2017, 06:47 PM
Thanks Tim

Placidus
24-01-2017, 07:20 PM
The 2x2 binning was certainly not limiting. Excellent detail in the Fickle Finger, for example. :thumbsup: And it meant lots of structure in the darkest dust.

gregbradley
24-01-2017, 09:14 PM
Nice image Steve and congrats on your 16200. I have found it to be an excellent sensor and yes better suited to a wider scope.

Greg

Stevec35
24-01-2017, 11:57 PM
Thanks Greg. Didn't realize you had one otherwise I probably would have asked. Yes, although better suited to a wider scope I still think it will be useful with the with the 14.5" at 2x2.



Thanks M&T. We'll see how it performs on other things such as the faint planetary nebulae that are part of my repertoire.

willik
25-01-2017, 12:55 AM
I Have got ccd 16200 upgrade from ccd 8300 gives you a larger senser but
Sencertivity is about the same on imageing

willik
25-01-2017, 01:02 AM
IT looks like you cropped that image for some reason not the full senser size
it is quite a large senser

Stevec35
25-01-2017, 03:48 AM
Nope. The only cropping was a bit at the edges because of minor sub-frame misalignment.

gregbradley
26-01-2017, 10:00 AM
Thanks Greg. Didn't realize you had one otherwise I probably would have asked. Yes, although better suited to a wider scope I still think it will be useful with the with the 14.5" at 2x2.

No need to bin it on a decent night though. If the seeing is weak then yes binning is the way to go. I have taken some test images using the 16200 on my CDK17 and they turned out quite well. The lower read noise of the 16200 is mostly what its about. On the Honders it seems to make more vibrant images and probably on longer focal length less time needed to get to a good result as its not all about QE but more about low read noise. 6 microns for average seeing suits anything up to about 1500mm focal length at a guess.

Greg.

marc4darkskies
26-01-2017, 10:27 AM
Nicely done Steve - colours are rich and accurate IMO.

The mottled look detracts bit though and is indicative of over sharpening at the larger scales (say >10 pixels)

Slawomir
26-01-2017, 02:10 PM
Congratulations Steve on your new beautiful camera!

Very nice image for the first light too :thumbsup:

Stevec35
26-01-2017, 10:18 PM
Thanks Suavi. Bit of work still required before it's working at optimum though.



Thanks Marcus. Point taken - I over sharpened it a bit. I had seeing and focus problems.



Thanks for the info Greg. Seeing is generally not good from my site. I don't know what you get. The unbinned images are .37 arc seconds per pixel which seems horribly over sampled so that's why I was intending to mainly use it 2x2 with the 14.5"