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Peter Ward
12-06-2016, 11:54 AM
Very nearly didn't put this one up on the web, as the seeing was very ordinary for most of the data capture, and it needs a few more blue and green sub-exposures to tidy things up.

Seeing as the moon is now waxing... with the clear weather :rolleyes:....I doubt I'll get any more time on this anytime soon.

But it is such a pretty nebula....so I thought , why not.


Your average Trifid aka M20 is here (http://www.atscope.com.au/BRO/gallery381.html)

Saturnine
12-06-2016, 01:50 PM
What can one say, but that's seriously good . Thanks for sharing.

Jeff

alpal
12-06-2016, 04:06 PM
Nice one Peter,
Still plenty of detail but that kind of focal length needs top seeing.
The stars are little bit powdery looking but
you did clearly pick up the needle thin jet:
http://messier.seds.org/more/m020_hst.html

Well done.


cheers
Allan

Peter Ward
12-06-2016, 04:52 PM
Maybe a little vanilla at this stage, but thank you.



The needle is actually pretty easy to pick up..it often showed in my 130mm. That said, yes the seeing was just OK....bit like being stuck in a school zone with a F-1 car...

I've since tinkered with the image just a tad...a smidge of an unsharp mask has removed a bit of the powder :)

Paul Haese
12-06-2016, 05:07 PM
The core detail is a fair bit sharper than my image I did last year and I thought mine was pretty sharp. So you are getting good value for money there. Like you said more data is needed. The back ground is pretty noisy and I am not a fan of the hard edge to your stars, but the overall potential with more data is for an outstanding image.

alpal
12-06-2016, 07:25 PM
Hi Peter,
yes - it looks even better now.

cheers
Allan

DavidU
12-06-2016, 07:30 PM
Wow, excellent work.

Peter Ward
12-06-2016, 08:38 PM
Ta.



I guess so. I'm not the sort of imager who spends countless hours trying to fix problems in "post production". De-con is not my best friend :)
While I am amazed at the plethora of tools that can fix eggy/bloated/trailed and rainbow stars, and then some, I've found they often leave artifacts, hence don't use them. I'd rather re-shoot the data.




Ta Paul. More data can indeed do much :)

But I've found unless the seeing is around 2 arc sec or better I'm wasting my time at 3300 mm with this 'scope. I have yet to attach the reducer/corrector...while it doesn't improve the seeing...it might mask the effects a tad ;)

Atmos
12-06-2016, 08:51 PM
Apart from needing some more data it's looking really good.



It showed up in my image a week or so ago (not as pronounced as yours) so I do agree :)

multiweb
13-06-2016, 08:15 AM
Cool pic. I see what you mean about the seeing on the outer starfield. Hope you did image last night. Excellent seeing in Sydney.

marc4darkskies
13-06-2016, 08:20 AM
Bad seeing eh? Your scope must have the "cutting through bad seeing" optional extra because I wouldn't have known if you hadn't said anything. Is this taken with a reducer? Damn fine image. Maybe in my next life I'll have an Alluna!

Edit : just saw that you have no reducer.

Placidus
13-06-2016, 08:39 AM
Of the four bright stars in a line on the tip of the PussyCat's nose, I can usually see that the inner two brighter ones are elongated. In your image they are almost fully resolved into doubles, making the whole thing clearly six separate stars.

gregbradley
13-06-2016, 10:12 AM
Pretty stunning detail in the nebula. You've got your system singing.

Greg.

leon
13-06-2016, 02:52 PM
Yea not bad I suppose, :shrug: :P , just kidding absolutely awesome.

Leon

Peter Ward
13-06-2016, 03:51 PM
Ta Marcus... I have the (stupidly expensive) reducer...but sadly not fitted due the back-focus of the STX16803 :rolleyes: :doh:

As Maxwell Smart used to say "missed it by that much" :)

I waiting for Alluna to respond on whether a 4mm spacing error will prove fatal....in which case a STXL 16200 may be on the cards

Peter Ward
14-06-2016, 09:45 AM
Started to reply to these... run out of batteries and forgot to pack a charger..



Thanks Leon.



Ta Greg...I've still a few tweaks to make and I'll need consistently good seeing for that to happen...might take a while



Thank you for your insight..I had no idea my images deserved such close scrutiny...can I take it that, this 'scope is OK then :). And what pussy cat? All I can see is a fish. :)

Ta Marc...seeing was OK but not excellent...I'm still waiting for such a night :thumbsup:

Andy01
14-06-2016, 01:17 PM
Right then, that's just beautiful - so much core detail - darn fine result sir :)

Stevec35
17-06-2016, 07:06 PM
I don't think you need to make excuses for this one Peter - it's pretty darn good!

Cheers

Steve

Peter Ward
18-06-2016, 04:45 PM
Thanks Steve, I guess it's not too shabby then :). I'm also now a total convert on the merits of this superbly engineered optical system...My hope is to one day relocate it to a dark site..but have to say it's working just fine from my urban location for now.

Astroman
18-06-2016, 11:13 PM
Stunning Peter. I do hope you add more data to clean it up a little, but for general viewing it's a stunning image, plenty of detail. The system you have is working very well for you.