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John K
22-10-2006, 02:12 PM
This thread could belong in the begginers or observing sections (feel free to move it guys) but with no planets to view at the moment I had my first deep sky astrophotography experience last night and this morning from Terrick Terrick NP (approx 70 kms North of Bendigo) by piggybacking an old Fujica film SLR w/55mm f2.8 lens and Fuji Xtra 800 film on my 12.5".

It was also my first deep sky observing session in several years so double the fun and went on a sunset to sunrise visual ticking rampage through both winter and summer Milky Ways taking a 2 hr nap just before midnight and living life on caffaine and energy drinks all night.

Battled with the wind, power supply issues, dirt, dust (it's dry as anything up there!), fumbling gear in the dark and not to mention people with spotlights shooting at things in the distance and off course the excitement of getting my film developed (today!).

Intresting stuff! defenitely need to get the alignment issue sorted as I don't know much about drift aligning yet (mmm...lazy more like it actually) so I simply levelled my mount and pointed it directly South with the help of a compass (I think the eta Carina shot is the one that shows my poor alignment best) and it seemed to track ok (by my low planetary web imaging standards).

Other than the SCP star trail shot which was 4h 15mins at f5.6, all others are 10 mins at either f/2.8 or f/4.

Colour balanced and Curves adjusted in Photoshop.

Comments and advice welcome. (And yes, I could easily get hooked on deep sky photography!)

John.

p.s. 360 degree views down to almost to horizon levels at Terrick Terrick, awsome!

Question: Can wind vibration cause the star trails in the eta Carina Shot? or is this simply my poor alignment? The other shots were taken a few hours before and I had a harder time trying to guide so surpised when the Eta carina shot came out like that but was battling wind gusts at the time.

[1ponders]
22-10-2006, 02:18 PM
Trees? What trees. Nice clear horizons John :)
Careful, that bug has long teeth and hangs on real tight :lol:

Nice shot's mate, I especially like the LMC and SMC shot, but polar star trails always wins it for me. They are so simple, yet always look great to me. :clap:

sheeny
22-10-2006, 04:09 PM
Looking good John! The eta carinae shot looks like field rotation to me. More accurate polar alignment will probably help. I'm not sure if it's critical to have the lens of your camera parallel to your OTA or not. Were you guiding, or are these unguided shots?

I wouldn't think wind would do that!

Al.

mickoking
22-10-2006, 04:29 PM
G,day John, Love your shots particually the LMC/SMC one :thumbsup: I agree with Al. your Eta carinae shot definatley has field rotation caused by inaccurate polar alignment.

spearo
22-10-2006, 04:43 PM
Nice work John, I too am sold on the LMC ans SMC as well as the star trails. love the colors in the star trails too by the way.
well done and welcome to club of DSO imaging addicts (you have caught the bug wether you realise it or not yet...HAhAHAHA)

keep 'em coming!
cheers
frank

h0ughy
22-10-2006, 04:44 PM
love the star trails - awesome!! so is the orion widefield. mate would be good to have dark skies and no clouds!

fringe_dweller
22-10-2006, 05:57 PM
Love 'em John, i'm still a film fan of sorts, re star trails, area's around the poles are the toughest places to guide on, as everyone will tell you, and need the most accurate alignments as mentioned, give me a nice 45º altitude east or west anyday ;)
dont forget when you travel, to reset your latitude orientation on the mounts polar axis, its surprising what evn a degree diff in lat will make, i should know, we've done that a few times :rolleyes: just a suggestion :)

tornado33
22-10-2006, 10:44 PM
I love the star trails especially

davidpretorius
22-10-2006, 11:28 PM
awesome mate!

well done!

iceman
23-10-2006, 05:53 AM
Wow John, great results - especially for a first try!

You're a Maurice in the making - master of planetary and deep sky!

John K
23-10-2006, 07:37 PM
Thanks for all the encouraging comments guys. The Deep Sky stuff is defenitely calling me. Just need to get my act together and get a Digital SLR now.

Mike - I can only dream of being as good as guys like Maurice!

Al - thanks for the feedback. I was trying to "guide" during all shots by using a severely defocused bright star in the field (I dont have a guiding eyepiece and my laptop died on the night)

Have been reading up on drift alignment.
Is a guiding cross hair eyepiece easier to use than trying to drift align using a web cam and something like k3ccd tools?

sheeny
24-10-2006, 08:13 AM
John, my take on it is that K3 is great but you need to get you alignment reasonably close first, then fine tune with K3. So a guiding eyepiece is a good thing as well as K3.

Al.