Spitfire and Typhoon

[LewisM]

A lovely photo taken just the other day in the UK.

[FlashDrive]

Wish I was there ...might be an Air Show.

Col...:D

[deanm]

Neat re-heat.

Which Spitty version is this with the clipped wings?

At first I thought Seafire, but G led me elsewhere.

Dean

[ZeroID]

Wow, but I thought it was going to be the WW II Typhoon, the rocket loaded tank hunter.. One of my other favourite planes after the Spitfire and the incredible wooden wonder, the Mosquito. Then the Lancaster and the Blenheim night fighter version with it's array of radar aerials up front.
Any of you heard of the Hornet ? Mini Mosquito. Google that little late to the fray aircraft.

[Neutronstar]

What ZeroID said. Me want WWII Hawker Typhoon. A monster

[Hans Tucker]

Spitfire FR.XIVe built around 1945

[AndrewJ]

or is it a IXe ???
According to my book, the XIVe was a Griffon engine with 5 blade prop and retractable tailwheel, but then again, it had many variants.

Andrew

yep, its a IXe
took ages to find a piccy with details,
https://www.flickr.com/photos/52287882@N05/17783402601
as most pictures with the Typhoon have it paired with a Hawker Hurricane

[julianh72]

Actually, based on the markings, I think it's Spitfire LF Mk.XVIe TE311
http://www.raf.mod.uk/bbmf/theaircraft/spitfirete311.cfm

Here's a bit of information about the camo' Typhoon:
http://www.raf.mod.uk/bbmf/theaircraft/bob75thanniversarytyphoon.cfm

Awesome photo - thanks for sharing!

[rrussell1962]

http://www.raf.mod.uk/bbmf/theaircraft/spitfirete311.cfm

Julian, you beat me to it!

[julianh72]

Sadly, none are still flying:

Only one complete Hawker Typhoon still survives – serial number MN235 – and it is on display at the RAF Museum in Hendon, North London.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawker_Typhoon#Survivors

[AndrewJ]

Hmmmm
the annotation in the piccy i found said
"Vickers Supermarine Spitfire LF Mk.IXe TE311/4D-V BBMF"

The RAF site has the same serial no, but lists it as a XVIe so i am going to defer to them.

Andrew

[LewisM]

It is a XVIe - bubble canopy low back with clipped wings and a Packard built Merlin. IMHO the UGLIEST of all the Merlin engined variants.

[Merlin66]

The outboard cannons are the give away for the Packard Mk XVI.

[julianh72]

On matters pertaining to Spitfires, we should all defer to someone called "Merlin" with a dogfight as their avatar! :lol:

[deanm]

Is IIS morphing into Pprune?...!?
Dean

[Merlin66]

:)
Only the Merlin engine variants.
I spent almost ten years designing Spitty models for Flight Simulator/ MS FS Combat2.
Some thirty highly detailed models and over 20,000 downloads!
I have the largest collection of Spitfire reference books in Australia.
(The avatar is a screen capture of one of the models in action)

[AndrewJ]

Gday Ken

Just for my info, ( as i remembered reading about this before, and just rechecked ), i thought the outboard cannons simply meant it had an "E" wing, and didn't necessarily link it to a specific model of spit??

Andrew

[Merlin66]

Andrew,
Only the Mk XVI had the outboard cannons.
The C wing and E wing were structurally identical.
It's thought the XVIE terminology came into common usage with the low back variant.

[AndrewJ]

Gday Ken
My book must be wrong then
as it notes the outboard cannon were on all "E" wings ( which were fitted to several variants, not just the XVI ), and the main difference between the IXe and XVIe was the XVIe used a packard merlin, not a rolls.
Even found they make a model of the IXe with outboard cannons :-)
http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234932982-spitfire-mkixe-eduard-1144/
My book lists all the the serial nos made, so will see if i can dig up more info on the "E" wing
Andrew

[Merlin66]

This link may assist you....
http://spitfiresite.com/2010/04/sorting-out-the-e-american-armament-for-the-spitfire-mk-ixxvi.html

(Sounds like your talking about "Spitfire The History" by Morgan and Shacklady. A good overview book but there are much better technical references available)

[AndrewJ]

Gday Ken

Been there :-)
I was also using
http://www.worldmilitair.com/production%20lists/ssss/sm%20300.pdf
to cross ref back into my book.


Nup
"Spitfire" by Stewart Wilson.
I see the E wing went onto some of the XIVe variants too, but they are Griffons, so not "real spits" .
All interesting stuff.
Andrew

[raymo]

A bit off topic, but whenever I hear talk about the Merlin it reminds me of
the chap who owned an Engineering company across the road from my primary school. He put a Merlin into his Rolls, plus rear truck axles and
diffs. If I remember rightly it was direct drive because he couldn't find
a transmission that could handle the power. He was clocked well over 300kph on the autobahns and autostradas in Europe.
raymo

[ZeroID]

They recently put a Mosquito back in the air over here. Lots of rebuild though, wood doesn't last too well. I think it's going to a buyer in the UK. Mate of mine did some video of it's inaugural flight out at Ardmore Airfeild. Fast and Noisy !!