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Slawomir
23-06-2015, 03:17 PM
Work in progress...NGC 6188

So far only a bicolour image, 2hrs of Halpha and nearly 4 hours of OIII.

Would like to triple the amount of data and to also include SII, but that will have to wait for clear skies...

Full resolution version: http://www.astrobin.com/full/189183/0/

Thank you for looking.
S.

rustigsmed
23-06-2015, 03:38 PM
that is very very nice Slawomir,

excellent details, looking forward to more!

Paul Haese
23-06-2015, 03:45 PM
It's looking pretty good right now Slawomir. I like the extension of OII bubbles from the O star. I got vague hints of those. I can clearly see them in your image. I look forward to your final result.

Placidus
23-06-2015, 04:12 PM
Very fine indeed, Slawomir! Superb contrast on the most subtle features, without losing anything. In particular the [OIII] bubbles that Paul mentioned are indeed well handled.

Don't know that you need hugely more H-alpha or [OIII] - your image is already smooth and detailed. We found [SII] to be a challenge. There's not so very much in the area, and it would take a long hammering to bring it out.

multiweb
23-06-2015, 04:16 PM
That's superb Slawomir!. You nailed it! :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

strongmanmike
23-06-2015, 04:32 PM
Excellent image of the fighting dragons Slaw :thumbsup: Looking at this image it is not hard to see why it is a popular target this time of year :).

I am working on a Bicolour image (of a different target) at the moment, should be finished tonight, although I am incorporating some RGB in mine, it is interesting to see the palette variation possible even with just two NB filters in play.

Mike

LewisM
23-06-2015, 04:34 PM
That is indeed splendid. The contrast and definition of the image is superior to MANY I have seen of this target that usually tend to look somewhat "misty" or Gaussian.

Well done

Slawomir
23-06-2015, 04:34 PM
Thank you Russell.



Thank you Paul. I think that decent detail in OIII bubbles is due to ICX814's good sensitivity for this wavelength. I am only using a 4inch doublet and when shooting from our balcony, I have to collect data with objects relatively low in the sky (35 to 60 degrees above the horizon). I must admit that I love how 3nm Astrodons work with my QSI :-)



Yes, perhaps only extra 2 or so hours for Halpha and another 4hrs in OIII. As for SII, well, I am looking forward to the challenge :-)



Thank you Marc. I made several attempts at this data, but eventually got roughly where I wanted to get :-)

Octane
23-06-2015, 04:34 PM
This is simply outstanding, mate.

It is one of my favourite areas of the sky and I've never been able to do justice to it properly. I started collecting narrowband data on it this year, but, other projects have put it on scrap heap for a while. Perhaps next year.

I can't wait to see this completed.

H

Slawomir
23-06-2015, 04:43 PM
Thank you Michael. I have just recently "discovered" this nebula, and it is a very dynamic and interesting DSO. I think it rightly deserves more of my telescope's attention :)

Looking forward to seeing and contemplating your completed bicolour image.




Спасибо Lewis :)



Thank you Humayun for your encouragement.

gregbradley
23-06-2015, 04:50 PM
Absolutely gorgeous Slawomir. That really turned out well.

Greg.

Slawomir
23-06-2015, 06:14 PM
Thank you Greg :)

Honestly, I did not expect such decent result with relatively limited data I have collected so far. Unfortunately, good weather did not last...

Eden
23-06-2015, 07:06 PM
Can't fault this one -- excellent choice of palette, too. Nice work, Slaw :thumbsup:

codemonkey
23-06-2015, 07:36 PM
Awesome! Shots like this make me want to actually get around to trying narrowband.

Rod771
23-06-2015, 07:40 PM
You must be please with this so far, looks fantastic! :thumbsup:

Andy01
23-06-2015, 08:23 PM
Looking good Slawomir, but do try for the S2, it'll make it even more 3D then :)

Geoff45
23-06-2015, 08:53 PM
Great image Slawomir. Lots of fine detail there
Geoff

Spookyer
23-06-2015, 09:03 PM
Great work, I have been working on this target as well, be happy if mine turns out that good.

Slawomir
23-06-2015, 09:04 PM
Thank you all for your very kind feedback.

I will certainly continue working on this project, when we get a clear night.

I have also learnt that flats will certainly be needed to remove gradients near the edges around the entire image - I suspect some reflections within the CCD chamber or maybe light gets bent on the edges of the CCD itself. Luckily this pattern is consistent for all subs and I have not rotated the camera. With shorter exposures I got away with using Dynamic Background Extraction in PI...

Stevec35
23-06-2015, 09:09 PM
Love it! A superb effort.

Steve

Slawomir
24-06-2015, 09:24 AM
Thank you Steve.

Slawomir
24-06-2015, 04:03 PM
Still experimenting with the data...removed a few gradients and tried to better control stars while stretching the nebula...maybe not as nice colour balance though...

http://www.astrobin.com/full/189183/B/

Regulus
24-06-2015, 04:11 PM
The large image is well worth a vist Slawomir. The depth and detail from the 2 colours is startling and magnificent, and although I look forward to the SII addition, I only hope it doesn't cloud the detail that's in this.
Superb

Trevor

LewisM
24-06-2015, 05:01 PM
I just love what you are doing with humble kit - just shows you don't need to spend $13K on a mount, $8K on a scope and $15K on a CCD.

Just brilliant real extraction and utilisation. Kudos.

Tony_
24-06-2015, 05:53 PM
Superb image Slawomir.

Slawomir
24-06-2015, 05:56 PM
Thank you Trevor for your very kind feedback, I will do my best to at least preserve the detail when adding SII data :)



Thank you Lewis. Imagine if my gear was actually in capable hands...I have just learnt today how to make flats... :lol:



Thank you Tony!

LewisM
24-06-2015, 06:17 PM
It already is

Slawomir
24-06-2015, 06:41 PM
Have someone borrowed my telescope?

bugeater
25-06-2015, 09:30 AM
That's an awesome image Slawomir. So much detail.
It's the kind of image I aspire to be able to create myself - a long way off I fear.

Slawomir
25-06-2015, 09:53 AM
Thank you Marty, I really appreciate your kind feedback.

It might not be as long as you think...This is an example of what I would produce just 18 months ago...

http://www.astrobin.com/49475/0/

and I am a VERY slow learner... :)

Slawomir
27-06-2015, 05:55 PM
After some experimentation I have noticed that my de-noising technique needed to be adjusted, as it used to very effectively dissolve fainter details. I really like how TGVDenoise works in PixInsight, so from now on this will my tool for controlling noise, and I will be applying it very moderately...

Revised Dragons look noisier, but there is also more wealth of fainter detail, so I like it :)

http://www.astrobin.com/full/189183/C/

Thank you for looking
S.

Rex
27-06-2015, 09:53 PM
WOW! another great image Slawomir. You have really been pumping them out lately. Great stuff. Keep them coming mate.

britgc
28-06-2015, 02:33 AM
Amazing image Slawomir. Love the detail in the revised version.

Slawomir
28-06-2015, 09:00 AM
Thank you Rex, unfortunately I have run out of images to revise...may go fishing instead while waiting for clear skies :)



Thank you Bret, I am just doing my best :)

LewisM
28-06-2015, 09:47 AM
WOWOWOWOWOW!

Please Daddy, can I play with THIS data? :)

Slawomir
28-06-2015, 10:15 AM
No problemo. But what happened with the spider? ;)

RickS
28-06-2015, 01:42 PM
That's a fantastic result, Slawomir! I look forward to the final version.

Cheers,
Rick.

Slawomir
28-06-2015, 04:02 PM
Thank you Rick. I am hoping to collect more data for this object, and would love to also include SII, before the end of school holidays.