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Omaroo
19-09-2006, 06:04 PM
We had Dr. Paul Francis give a talk last night at the MAS monthly meeting. Paul is currently the scientist in charge of the Australian effort put into the Gemini 8m north and south telescopes in Hawaii and Chile. A truly fascinating bloke.

Anyway - he has been experimenting with the way that humans percieve information coming from space in the form of the visible light. He surmised that although human vision provides good spatial reference to the brain so that we can determine where we are relative to other objects, vision rates poorly as far as being able to intimate subtleties in recurring patterns. Ranging from ~400 to 800THz, or the highest frequency being only double the base, visible light cannot impart subtleties as well as the audible range - i.e. from 20 to 20KHz, or 100 times the base frequency. There is just so much more room to move in.

What he has done, and so far for fun, is to sample the visible spectra eminating from a variety of sources such as nebulae, galaxies and stars of varying ages and then translate the sample to a more widely spread audible tone - downsampling by a factor of millions and even trillions along the way to make it all audible to humans.

It's pretty cool stuff, and his web page http://www.mso.anu.edu.au/~pfrancis/ (http://www.mso.anu.edu.au/%7Epfrancis/) goes into greater detail and actally has a bunch of example mp3 tracks to listen to. It goes to prove that we tend to relate more to sound to get a "feeling" from than light. I'd love to see a grid set up across a nebula, with each intersect being sampled. Then, all could be projected onto a sound stage of sorts so that you could walk amongst the variable tones while you looked up at a projection shone down on to an overhead horizontal screen.

Anyway - I found it kind of cool.....

Cheers
Chris

ving
19-09-2006, 07:28 PM
it was kind cool chris :)

from the differnce in pitch between our so and a red giant or the different pulsars spinning at different speeds. it was very interesting.
at the end he did a zoom in on a galaxy startign with sounds of gases and stars whizzing past right down to the quazar in the center.... it reminded me of one of those "sounds of the rainforest" relaxation recordings. he sould put it on a CD and sell it as "the sounds of space..." :)
it would sell! :)

i wonder if he has learned anything new of the universe from it?

Blue Fire
20-09-2006, 03:08 AM
Absolutely fascinating work! I've now Listened to the universe. I can't help but wonder if our core concepts about and comprehension of the universe in terms of sensory experiences could bring about a sort of paradgm shift in our currents "views" of what's out there. Now, to put on a display that includes both a visual and aural representation,... well that would be something to see, er, hear, er, I mean, ... experience! :thumbsup:

ving
20-09-2006, 09:49 AM
it has occured to me that using our other senses may also be beneficial... alas when i licked one of mikes old jupiter pics it didnt taste nice at all ;)
i am guessing touching a pulsar would be a bad thing :confuse3:

Ric
20-09-2006, 12:10 PM
It sounds like it was a very interesting talk, I would have liked to have sat in on that one. I did however download the Mp3's which are at the least fascinating, it is amazing how peaceful and soothing the sounds are but thats nature for you. I plan to play them while I am doing some visual observing this weekend it should put a new perspective on thing

cheers

Blue Fire
21-09-2006, 01:55 AM
But have you tried a Planet Popsicle (http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/060703_wild_weather_top10-6.html)? Or, a Popsicle Planet (http://www.sciencenews.org/pages/sn_arc98/8_29_98/bob1.htm)? :)
Yes, pulsars are sensitive and well known for complaining about inappropriate touching. :lol:

Gargoyle_Steve
21-09-2006, 02:49 AM
How about sniffing all those gas-laden nebulae?


NOT posting the obvious Uranus jokes........
:whistle:

Blue Fire
21-09-2006, 06:34 AM
Hmmm... Scratch 'n sniff displays of heavenly objects with their aural equivalents playing. Perhaps add some tactile pads to feel and a bowl of appropriately flavored mints near each object, and ya got yer great idea for the next generation museum featuring an all-five-senses experience of the cosmos! :whistle: :D

Richard F
21-09-2006, 01:46 PM
Saw Paul Francis lecture,during the school of Astro@Maq.Uni,this Aug.
The sound that blew me away most was the "big-bang"or should i say C.M.B.?Anyway,brilliant,as you really do get a feel for the difference between
young & old pulsars,(&stars)instantly.Love to hear sol too.
Especially during a C.M.E. or @ solarmax. peak.
cheers:thumbsup: