madbadgalaxyman
23-03-2015, 06:02 PM
G'day there, Mr "SN cracker",
Thanks for the invite to Leyburn. I haven't seen the light of galaxies with my eyeballs for so long that perhaps I need to go and check that those galaxies are still there!
This post, and thread, continues from the recent Science thread by faaarwest2K, which asks what science projects can be undertaken by a person with an 8 inch Dobsonian. Visual search for supernovae is a "possible" with an 8 inch telescope, though, as you know, the target galaxies for eyeball searching with small apertures should be :
(1) nearby (so that the SN is visually detectable with this small aperture).
(2) preferably those galaxies which have a demonstrably high rate of star formation, as these galaxies will also have a high rate of occurring core-collapse supernovae.
(3) galaxies in which a very prominent O & B star population is in the low extinction regions of the disk component of their host galaxy. (Virtually any meaningful extinction from the host galaxy of a supernova can quickly make the SN too faint for visual detection )
In this post, there is a simple discussion of how to maximize the success-rate of a limited visual search for supernovae, with only small numbers of target galaxies.
(( this contrasts with the "scattergun" approach taken by people who use automated imaging and tracking systems..... potentially imaging very large numbers of galaxies in order to find that "supernova in a haystack".))
The right choice of galaxies to survey is the key to success in small-galaxy-number Supernova search......
The current and total Star Formation Rate (SFR) in a galaxy (by convention, this is measured in Units of solar masses per annum) correlates well with the rate of occurring core-collapse supernovae in that galaxy. This is because of the (approximate) constancy of the Initial Mass Function of stars;
which states, in the form of a mathematical function, that the relative numbers of stars formed of various masses are (nearly) always in the same ratios.
[[ As mentioned in the other thread, the LMC has a total Star Formation Rate of about 0.4 solar masses per Annum, and our own Galaxy is currently thought to have an SFR of about 2 solar masses per annum (about normal for a big spiral galaxy) ]]
There are several ways to estimate the SFR of a galaxy.
For instance :
- the SFR of a galaxy correlates well with its total Far-ultraviolet Luminosity.
- the SFR of a galaxy also correlates well with its total Infrared Luminosity.
- SFR can be calculated from the H-alpha luminosity of a galaxy.
There are abundant numerical formulae in the literature that enable the calculation of the SFR of a galaxy from its luminosity in certain bandpasses.
In general, a galaxy with a high SFR will host a lot of core-collapse supernovae, though merely saying that supernovae are expected to frequently occur in a particular galaxy says nothing about whether or not these occurring supernovae can actually be detected with a specific telescope, because many galaxies with a very high SFR have a significant fraction of their massive and luminous stars concentrated in regions of high extinction from the dust within a galaxy (the biggest known OB star concentrations are found in the high-extinction centres of non-dwarf spiral galaxies)
In this post, I use an indicator of the Total Mass of a Galaxy (its Blue luminosity), together with how blue the U-B colour of a galaxy is, as a "quick and easy" method to estimate how much ultraviolet light is coming from a galaxy, and therefore to estimate how large is its population of those OB stars that are not subject to high foreground extinction from their host galaxy.
High mass (and, therefore, high luminosity) spiral galaxies that also have very blue (more negative) U-B colours...... usually do have high rates of detectable supernovae at visible wavelengths, because the characteristically blue optical colour of these galaxies is usually caused by Massive and Luminous O & B stars that occupy relatively low-extinction regions of the disk component of a galaxy.
So here is my attempt to extract, from a comprehensive Galaxy Catalog, the names and identities of the most massive and luminous spiral galaxies within about 78 million Light Years which also have the following properties:
- a high rate of star formation, minimally equivalent to the typical Star Formation Rate in a first-ranked (-21 to -22 absolute blue magn. ) spiral galaxy of Hubble type Sc.
- much of the current star formation is occurring in the low extinction regions of the galaxy
I have extracted (using SQL), from those galaxies contained in the Hyperleda online galaxy catalog, a sample of Very Luminous and Very Strongly Star-forming spiral galaxies, which have all of the following numerical properties :::
- a Blue absolute magnitude of less than -20.7 (in other words, these are massive & luminous spiral galaxies)
AND
- a Hubble type of Sb or later, in the Hubble Sequence
AND
- a recession velocity of less than 1800 km/s. In other words, I have selected only nearby galaxies, those within a maximum distance of approximately 24 Megaparsecs (= 78 million light years )
AND
- a total U-B colour of less than 0.1 (so these are blue galaxies, with a substantial ultraviolet flux which will mainly come from little-obscured OB stars.....unless of course the galaxy hosts a bright AGN! )
This should be a very profitable sample of galaxies for supernova patrol, especially for visual SN search with modest apertures, as these galaxies are nearby and they each have a large total stellar mass, and they will (most of them, anyway) have a large population of not very dust-obscured OB stars on account of their blue U-B colours. In other words, this list is an attempt to name those particular nearby galaxies which should, on theoretical grounds, have the highest rates of visually very evident core-collapse supernovae, as I made a cut in colour, such that only optically Very Blue galaxies were included.
cheers,
Robert
Here are the selected galaxies, in a Word 2000 format (.doc) document:
179394
Thanks for the invite to Leyburn. I haven't seen the light of galaxies with my eyeballs for so long that perhaps I need to go and check that those galaxies are still there!
This post, and thread, continues from the recent Science thread by faaarwest2K, which asks what science projects can be undertaken by a person with an 8 inch Dobsonian. Visual search for supernovae is a "possible" with an 8 inch telescope, though, as you know, the target galaxies for eyeball searching with small apertures should be :
(1) nearby (so that the SN is visually detectable with this small aperture).
(2) preferably those galaxies which have a demonstrably high rate of star formation, as these galaxies will also have a high rate of occurring core-collapse supernovae.
(3) galaxies in which a very prominent O & B star population is in the low extinction regions of the disk component of their host galaxy. (Virtually any meaningful extinction from the host galaxy of a supernova can quickly make the SN too faint for visual detection )
In this post, there is a simple discussion of how to maximize the success-rate of a limited visual search for supernovae, with only small numbers of target galaxies.
(( this contrasts with the "scattergun" approach taken by people who use automated imaging and tracking systems..... potentially imaging very large numbers of galaxies in order to find that "supernova in a haystack".))
The right choice of galaxies to survey is the key to success in small-galaxy-number Supernova search......
The current and total Star Formation Rate (SFR) in a galaxy (by convention, this is measured in Units of solar masses per annum) correlates well with the rate of occurring core-collapse supernovae in that galaxy. This is because of the (approximate) constancy of the Initial Mass Function of stars;
which states, in the form of a mathematical function, that the relative numbers of stars formed of various masses are (nearly) always in the same ratios.
[[ As mentioned in the other thread, the LMC has a total Star Formation Rate of about 0.4 solar masses per Annum, and our own Galaxy is currently thought to have an SFR of about 2 solar masses per annum (about normal for a big spiral galaxy) ]]
There are several ways to estimate the SFR of a galaxy.
For instance :
- the SFR of a galaxy correlates well with its total Far-ultraviolet Luminosity.
- the SFR of a galaxy also correlates well with its total Infrared Luminosity.
- SFR can be calculated from the H-alpha luminosity of a galaxy.
There are abundant numerical formulae in the literature that enable the calculation of the SFR of a galaxy from its luminosity in certain bandpasses.
In general, a galaxy with a high SFR will host a lot of core-collapse supernovae, though merely saying that supernovae are expected to frequently occur in a particular galaxy says nothing about whether or not these occurring supernovae can actually be detected with a specific telescope, because many galaxies with a very high SFR have a significant fraction of their massive and luminous stars concentrated in regions of high extinction from the dust within a galaxy (the biggest known OB star concentrations are found in the high-extinction centres of non-dwarf spiral galaxies)
In this post, I use an indicator of the Total Mass of a Galaxy (its Blue luminosity), together with how blue the U-B colour of a galaxy is, as a "quick and easy" method to estimate how much ultraviolet light is coming from a galaxy, and therefore to estimate how large is its population of those OB stars that are not subject to high foreground extinction from their host galaxy.
High mass (and, therefore, high luminosity) spiral galaxies that also have very blue (more negative) U-B colours...... usually do have high rates of detectable supernovae at visible wavelengths, because the characteristically blue optical colour of these galaxies is usually caused by Massive and Luminous O & B stars that occupy relatively low-extinction regions of the disk component of a galaxy.
So here is my attempt to extract, from a comprehensive Galaxy Catalog, the names and identities of the most massive and luminous spiral galaxies within about 78 million Light Years which also have the following properties:
- a high rate of star formation, minimally equivalent to the typical Star Formation Rate in a first-ranked (-21 to -22 absolute blue magn. ) spiral galaxy of Hubble type Sc.
- much of the current star formation is occurring in the low extinction regions of the galaxy
I have extracted (using SQL), from those galaxies contained in the Hyperleda online galaxy catalog, a sample of Very Luminous and Very Strongly Star-forming spiral galaxies, which have all of the following numerical properties :::
- a Blue absolute magnitude of less than -20.7 (in other words, these are massive & luminous spiral galaxies)
AND
- a Hubble type of Sb or later, in the Hubble Sequence
AND
- a recession velocity of less than 1800 km/s. In other words, I have selected only nearby galaxies, those within a maximum distance of approximately 24 Megaparsecs (= 78 million light years )
AND
- a total U-B colour of less than 0.1 (so these are blue galaxies, with a substantial ultraviolet flux which will mainly come from little-obscured OB stars.....unless of course the galaxy hosts a bright AGN! )
This should be a very profitable sample of galaxies for supernova patrol, especially for visual SN search with modest apertures, as these galaxies are nearby and they each have a large total stellar mass, and they will (most of them, anyway) have a large population of not very dust-obscured OB stars on account of their blue U-B colours. In other words, this list is an attempt to name those particular nearby galaxies which should, on theoretical grounds, have the highest rates of visually very evident core-collapse supernovae, as I made a cut in colour, such that only optically Very Blue galaxies were included.
cheers,
Robert
Here are the selected galaxies, in a Word 2000 format (.doc) document:
179394