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tornado33
05-09-2006, 12:48 AM
Hi all
Built and tested a simple fan forced mirror cooling/ventilation system for my 10 inch scope. The fan was set to suck air out of the scope, not blow it in, as I found out thats what they do at the Anglo Australian Telescope, the theory is clean non turbulent air is drawn in, then washes over the mirror then out the back. Seeing wasnt that good anyway with a southerly wind and some cloud. Visually I couldnt see much difference with fan on, or off, but I took a single image of the moon with it on.
This is a newtonian focus image with the MPCC coma corrector, RAW, iso 100, 1/250th sec, mirror lockup on, with my 10 inch f5.6 scope. I was surprised to get the level of detail, considering the moon looked to be "boiling" when looking with an eyepiece due to the unsteady seeing.
I really decided to try some sort of forced ventilation after seeing Mike's telescope at Kulnura, and the fact that the mirror needs to be within a degree or 2 of ambient, warmer and convection near mirror surface runins the image quality. My mirror is full thickness and so takes a long time to cool down.
Ive also put in a full res. crop of the moon image, as well as a pic of the cooler. Very hi tech as you can see, a PC case fan stuck on some masonite in turn stuck to the scope with good ol duct tape lol.
I was worried virebration from the fan may cause issue but it wasnt noticable, wither in the image or visually.
Note, I used the masking technique on the moon to increase contrast a bit. Taken with my modded camera, no filters of any kind used.
Scott

iceman
05-09-2006, 06:14 AM
Nice job Scott, it's a nice image. The widefield version is very sharp.

I too have my fan running while I image, and have not noticed any vibration at all. At times when the image on the laptop is boiling away I wonder if it's vibration, so I unplug the fan, find that the boiling is due to seeing and possible tube currents (not vibration), so I turn the fan back on.

I'm not sure about the sucking rather than blowing - bird may have some thoughts on that (mine is blowing air from outside onto the back of the mirror).

tornado33
05-09-2006, 02:08 PM
Yep i want to test the system on a night of good seeing. The reason Im trying pulling air from inside the scope is that the AAT used to blow air in from outside through a filter room, air from inside the dome exhausting out through the dome slit over the telescope. Then I heard that by reversing the fans and drawing air in from outside, clean air free of turbulence washes over the telescope. They do, however have separate fans blowing air over the surface of the mirror too I believe. Its mentioned at bottom of here http://www.aao.gov.au/local/www/cgt/obsguide/node16.html#SECTION0031000000000000 0000
Also this

h0ughy
06-09-2006, 01:16 PM
Nice one Scott, are you going into competition with mike and the planetary mob?

Orion
06-09-2006, 07:08 PM
Interesting Scott, If your experiment works I might have to turn my fans the other way around. I was also thinking of putting some fans in to blow across the face of the mirror.

tornado33
07-09-2006, 11:17 PM
Yes, the AAT uses fans to blow air across the mirror so that might be worth considering.
Scott