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astroron
03-12-2014, 10:05 AM
Stephen Hawking says that "Artificial intelligence" could make humans extinct.
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-30290540
What do you think:question:
Cheers:thumbsup:
AndrewJ
03-12-2014, 12:23 PM
Wont get us in OZ :-)
After reading recently whats now starting to happen in places like CSIRO, as the "efficiency" cuts take effect, we wont have anyone left to finish it down here, and border patrol will turn the rest of em back quick smart.
Andrew
Larryp
03-12-2014, 12:34 PM
Like in the "Terminator" movies :)
Renato1
03-12-2014, 07:09 PM
The problem was solved long ago - Lost In Space's Robot.
Just have a mandatory power pack on the outside that anyone can pull out at will.
Regards,
Renato
multiweb
03-12-2014, 07:42 PM
Elon Musk said the same thing. My take on this. The way the world works, any AI with half a brain would tell it how it is and some people already know it but don't want to hear it. Usually the ones who have the most to lose. :lol:
Interesting how HAL is a "murderous computer". Any 2001/2010 buff knows he only got that way because of being fed conflicting crazy inputs from scheming humans :)
multiweb
03-12-2014, 08:19 PM
Politicians would become programmers. :lol: Actually if we put machines in every field where there is a conflict of interests or money is involved they'd probably be more efficient and less biaised. I say let's give them the intitial parameters: sustainability, environment preservation, health and well being, cosmic expansion and research then let them run the join and get rid of all the pollies and greedy morons. It can't hurt.:)
I can't remember his name, but that "futurist" who was on Q&A a year or so back observed, how would you go about switching off the internet?
A good point!
xelasnave
04-12-2014, 12:16 PM
The machines will keep humans as pets
torana68
04-12-2014, 12:24 PM
would like to be a cat lovers cat :) dunno about the de-sexing though.
We'll have to form a resistance movement. :D
Bags being the one to go back in time and rescue Sarah Connor (Linda Hamilton) ;)
AstralTraveller
04-12-2014, 03:01 PM
I don't reckon we need AI to go extinct. We can manage that all by ourselves. :rolleyes:
TrevorW
04-12-2014, 05:16 PM
An AI may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm.
An AI must obey the orders given to it by human beings, except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.
An AI must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Law.
AndrewJ
04-12-2014, 05:57 PM
7:45AM on 01/apr/2018, Microsoft issues a patch and accidentally wipes out the laws .
Game over :-)
Andrew
lazjen
04-12-2014, 06:58 PM
We are so far off having true AI that most of us probably won't have to worry about it.
If you want to worry :) then look out for the IoT (Internet of Things). That's going to be an awesome way to screw things up and will probably lead to deaths as it's developed (accidental and deliberate).
I work developing software - we are no where near mature enough as an industry to develop truly reliable, highly functional software required, repeatedly and at scale (quantity and speed).
It's going to be an interesting ride over the next few years and decades...
What do you think we'll see first on the "Internet of Things" side of things Chris?
jenchris
04-12-2014, 07:21 PM
Waaalllleeeee!!!!
KenGee
04-12-2014, 08:14 PM
I'm a software Engineer as well and completely disagree with Chris.AI will come from hardware with the OS and maybe firmware playing a roll. Application software which is probably what Chris does is something the AI will write and use maybe.
ZeroID
05-12-2014, 12:25 PM
I'd guess it's too far away for me to be worried about but I'd be concerned about autonomous systems without conscience. How do you engineer empathy and social awareness into a nonthinking entity ? And I say nonthinking because it is not sentient as such, it is still just a processor of 1's and 0's regardless of the 'self aware' argument.
raymo
05-12-2014, 12:35 PM
By then it may not be just a case of 1's and 0's. Who knows what
technology might come up with. I am talking quite a while in the future,
of course.
raymo
sn1987a
05-12-2014, 01:23 PM
As long as our AI is well ahead of the Chinese, Russian, North Korean, Iranian, ISIS AIs I'm sure we have nothing to worry about :P
What happens if two different AIs don't like each other?
multiweb
05-12-2014, 01:38 PM
AI Carramba!
AndrewJ
05-12-2014, 02:02 PM
Teach em to play Tic Tac Toe. ( it worked in the movies )
Andrew
lazjen
05-12-2014, 04:31 PM
AI will be much more than hardware, OS and firmware. It will require sophisticated programs and algorithms to put it all together. Whether that's in the code in the firmware or OS or the "application" software on that. Otherwise all you've got is a more powerful computer.
I've messed with a number of areas, but my day job is mostly applications and systems level programming - and if AI can eventually write all that - then great. Who really needs yet another website framework, payment processing system, etc? :)
We probably will get there eventually, but we will make a lot more mistakes on the way there. The number of bugs that will happen will be enormous and this is easy to predict just by looking at what is happening with software and systems now.
lazjen
05-12-2014, 04:37 PM
Technically it's already here in that there are devices already being hooked up all over the place. It's just that it will explode in number and type over the next few years as it becomes cheaper/mass market and easier to do - just like other technologies have in the past.
I think there's going to be some fantastic things come out of it that I can't even imagine at this point, but there will probably be some truly dumb things too, especially if some one can make a buck out of it and even more so if that buck grabbing is repeatable (subscriptions, pay per use, etc).
parryg
11-12-2014, 08:34 PM
We better start building in Azimov's 3 laws of Robotics :-D
ZeroID
12-12-2014, 09:57 AM
Can I get an 'intelligent' fridge that can keep my beer stocks optimal ? :P
AndrewJ
12-12-2014, 10:09 AM
Gday Brent
They were out 3 years ago.
LGs fridge even told the oven how to cook the food it was holding.
However, just be warned, that ( under law 1 ), the fridge will be required to send your drinking ( and junk food eating habits ) to the state sanctioned "doctor bot", so that you can be sent for retraining before you hurt yourself.
Andrew
Marios
12-12-2014, 10:30 AM
The future doesn't need us!
We joke allot about AI and the Hollywood representations but the fact remains there is predatory elite that run this world and our future.
Marios
12-12-2014, 10:35 AM
Don't forget the health insurance company's raising your premiums as a result of your risk from poor eating habbits.
There was a scandal a while back with the blood taken from newborns in the west having there DNA code sold to Health insurance company's to determine who is a risk for genetics disease.
:rolleyes:
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