Will Rolf Harris survive prison?

[BPO]

Does he deserve to survive it?

[Rob S]

It's so sad to see such an idol from our childhood like this :(

I thought Rolf was one of the good guys. Mind you, back then, I thought Gary Glitter was a good guy too. We even done one of his songs in a school show back home when I was nine.

Rob.

[trent_julie]

I don't care. He is a criminal who stole innocence.

Trent

[GrahamL]

For the lifetime of misery he landed on his vicitms I think he got off extremely lightly, leniancy because of the historical nature of his crimes ? ,well what I've read On what he was searching the net for in recent times paints this creep as still a serial sex offender of children ,,they all have lost the right to walk amoung us imo, and every time we let one out we fail another generation of kids who deserve to be safe.

[el_draco]

Having worked closely with a hell of a lot of kids who have been abused, I've seen the devastation wrought by "rock spiders" and the nightmare NEVER ends for their victims.

I'd like to see him stripped of every asset he's got and locked in a dungeon with a bunch of appropriately oriented inmates who can visit upon him what he has done to others.. Makes me seethe to think he could do this ...

[xelasnave]

He has betrayed his victims and his fans. He should have his wealth taken. Chemical castration as well. Hope the cook spits in his food. I hope he lives a long life so he has ample time to suffer.

[xelasnave]

Thinking more castration with a rusty hacksaw and the cook could do more than spit in his food.

[madwayne]

I feel the same as all of you. The sentence seemed ridiculously short for such horrible crimes. To me the scary thing is how many other victims are out there remaining silent. He should have been given a longer sentence, one that would have seen him end his days in prison where he belongs.

Wayne

[jjjnettie]

Why should tax payers money be spent on keeping him safe and well fed in prison?
The sooner he dies the better.
And I'm heartbroken that I can never listen to any of his songs again, with out them being a trigger. :(

[ianB]

When Harris lived in Crystal Palace, London, in the 1970's, my brother used to go to his home ( very large Victorian three story home ) to clean and wash his car, my brother was about 12 or 13, I hope nothing happened to him?

[ianB]

Over the past decade people have been spending big money buying his paintings, looks like they have a bad investment on their hands now, no doubt his work will also be taken down from various art galleries from around the world, including the fairly recent one of the Queen.

[PCH]

I wouldn't think so Ian, - they may well be worth more in a generation or two simply because of their history.

People are upset right now, but many of us have happily visited such as the Coloseum - built by an emperor that could be said to have inflicted similarly yukky things on equally innocent people.

And for the record, I'd be prepared to bet my nads that the paintings etc currently being hastily removed will find their way into the lofts and basements of the current councillors just in case they should become collectors pieces.

[raymo]

Well, they are reviewing the sentence, so maybe it will be increased.
For it to be reviewed, the authorities must also think it was too lenient.
raymo

[jenchris]

I think it will kill him.
He's 84 -three years will finish him.
He won't enjoy any of the time he has left.

I hope any who have suffered will feel that prison as a rock spider will be retribution.
I just wish he'd been caught earlier and saved some of the torment being caused.

[AndrewJ]

Unless the UK justice system lets him go if he does get crook.
It was mentioned in a news article recently that getting
really crook can result in early release under UK law.
( eg the Lockerbie bomber )
Doesnt seem right

Andrew

[LewisM]

Don't make so small a wager :D:P;):lol::welcome:

Paedophiles deserve imprisonment with sado-masochistic homosexual men who exhibit delusional fantasies of strangulation and blood crimes.

I have absolutely zero tolerance for anyone that hurts kids.

[AG Hybrid]

I hope he lives long enough to see everything he has achieved and done will be rendered worthless, his legacy destroyed and his further existence pointless.

He already got stripped of his Hall of Fame induction from ARIA

[FlashDrive]

:eyepop: . . . Talk about the ' loooooooong Arm of the Law ' catching up with you . . . I really thought ( THAT HE THOUGHT ) ' he got away with it ' when he was presented with all those ACCOLADES for being such a nice guy over all those years . . . . and how he presented himself to the adoring Public.

A person at work said this to me ....

OH well ... we are all like the MOON.

I replied . . . what do you mean. . . .

' We all have a Dark Side '

I see his point of reference .... but it was ' metaphorically ' speaking .

All I can say is .... he did it to himself.. . . now pay the consequences for what you did.

Just an extra bit here ..... my Mrs's said .... I wonder if any other ' so called ' nice entertainers are NOW frightened of also being ' found out ' .

Col . . . . . .

[LewisM]

Problem is Col he DIDN'T do it to himself - he did it to kids. If only he HAD done it to himself, he'd only have a sore wrist...

:D

No compassion. Hope he enjoys Bubba's visitations during the winter.

[FlashDrive]

I know what your saying . . . and it is true ...It's the ' shame ' and disgust he has bought upon himself is what I'm referring to .

Col ...

[manny]

Rolf deserves the same sympathy and consideration he showed his victims NONE.The sentence he received is to lenient for the lifelong suffering his victims have to endure.

[Exfso]

Heard a rumour that they are putting him in a real low security place in a couple of weeks, bit like a glorified motel. Makes a mockery of the whole thing I reckon. Why should he not be penalised like others of his ilk and have to do the time in hard prisons. I know they get separated from the real hard liners, but to send him to this place is a bloody joke....:mad2:

[clive milne]

Andrew, it is on public record that Abdelbaset Ali Mohmed al-Megrahi was framed.... flight records show that he could not have done it, furthermore a former employee of (the) Mossad confirms it. (Victor Ostrovsky)

I can point you to the source if you like.

c

PS. More worrying is the fact that MI6 were in possession of evidence that incontrovertibly exonerated Abdelbaset Ali Mohmed al-Megrahi (and Libya) during the trial, but knowingly failed to disclose it. (presumably for a political agenda)

[hotspur]

Hope he has a hard time in prison,even that is too good for him,what a low life he is. When you read the victims' reports on how he went about it all-it makes you sick.What a dingo he is-should be hung up side down.

[zenith]

A man in a trench coat with three legs entertaining children. Even as a child myself at the time I knew that was not right. I'd suggest we start looking on eBay for a portrait of the Queen, there might be one going cheap from seller UKQueen001.

[AndrewJ]

Gday Clive



And others say he wasnt, but that blurs the point.

Lets use Ronnie Biggs instead, as the principle is the same.
He lasted something like 4 years after being on his death bed,
so it wasnt too bad.
If you are crook, they "can" let you go.
Lets see how long before Rolfs fans push for compassionate release.

I also note that in the last few days, the current British enquiry into child abuse has just found out that a lot of data/accusations?? leading ( allegedly) back to people in Westminster has "gone missing".

One quote i saw attributed to Norman Tebbit ( a UK pollie back in the 80s ) was


Whos really covering up for who??????

Andrew

[ZeroID]

Seems to be endemic in Westminster ...

[Hans Tucker]

Wow Chris, I didn't think anyone could hate Dingo's that much.

Unlike Ronald Biggs I doubt Harris has any fans that will be calling for an early and/or compassionate release.

[AndrewJ]

Gday Hans
I sincerely hope you are right, but it would be interesting to know how many people in high places may slowly and quietly start to lobby for him in exchange for silence on other topics.
Based on what is now coming out in all the current royal commissions etc, it certainly looks like the people who circulate at that level in society seem to think laws dont apply to them, and ensure that nothing damaging reaches the light of day if discovered accidentally.

Andrew

[Neil]

Rolf Harris is an oxygen thief, doesn't deserve sympathy or anyones time spent deliberating on his fate, should have been hung.

[taminga16]

Will Rolf Harris survive prison?
Only if the staff remember to lock the cell door every night.
Greg.

[Hagar]

I received this one in an email this morning. I just hope he lives long enough for someone to enjoy him.

As the door of his cell slams shut behind him and the lights go out Rolf Harris puts his head in his hands. He thinks of what he has done and begins to cry. Suddenly behind him a voice sings

"Did you think I would leave you crying when there's room in my bunk for two"

[Terry B]

Slightly naughty but sing along


There's an old Australian entertainer, sighing, crying
And he shrugs off his legal team
And he turns to the reporters, gathered all around him
And he says

Won’t have much hope for a grope, bloke
Won’t have much hope for a grope
At my age I can’t bend for the soap, bloke
There'll be no hope of a grope

All together now

The judge is sending me down, sport
Judge is sending me down
The news is all over town, sport
The judge is sending me down

It was only a compliment love, guv
Just a compliment love
There’s no need to cry “Heavens Above”, guv
Just a compliment love
All together now

The judge is sending me down, sport
Judge is sending me down
The news is all over town, sport
The judge is sending me down

A non-paying guest of the Queen, bean
A non-paying guest of the Queen
Should’ve sacked me legal team, bean
Now I’m gonna get me bum reamed
All together now

The judge is sending me down, sport
Judge is sending me down
The news is all over town, sport
The judge is sending me down

[jjjnettie]

It's only been in recent times that people/kids feel they can finally speak up about any abuse.
Back then anything untoward was ignored.
Or you were told off for being a liar.
Or if you had been groomed, you didn't realise that this isn't how life is supposed to be.
Seeing how it's mostly perpetrated by someone close to the family, one got told that "you don't want to make dear Aunt Patsie sad by saying something bad about old Uncle Alf." or "Our priest wouldn't do anything to hurt you, stop lying" and you got the strap to make you shut up.


Times have changed for the better now. And hopefully they will continue to do so.

[FlashDrive]

:lol::lol:

[FlashDrive]

Priceless . . . :lol:

[speach]

hope not

[leon]

Your dead right Jeanette, if one spoke about a priest like that, even if it were true, one would be in big trouble and get belted for it.
With, "how could a priest do that"

They have a lot to answer for. (The Clergy that is.)

Leon

[BPO]

:lol:

[multiweb]

The good thing coming out of all this is that it's high profile and it's sending a clear message out there. No matter who you are, try this once and you'll do the time. No compromise. In retrospect what that mongrel Savile did was even worse.

[pmrid]

It occurs to me that I have never heard an word from Harris (since his conviction) expressing any sorrow, regret, compassion or anything of the sort. I grant that I may have missed it and grant also that if it did occur (in the sentencing process for example) the media may not have picked it up. And my memory may also be shot to hell. But the bottom line as far as I am able to judge, he is entirely unrepentant.
That ought to disqualify him from any leniency in sentence or treatment. I understand that in the parole system, such things are a necessary precondition to consideration for parole.
So all in all, I can't see any factor except age that would mitigate against severe punishment and treatment. Let him break a few rocks instead or hearts and minds.

Peter

[Satchmo]

From what I hear he is being moved to a low security prison with no fences where they run a market garden and sell veges to local shops. I think the only rocks he'll be breaking are little ones getting in the way of the fresh carrots :)

[wulfgar]

I looked at the case against Rolf and for the most part it didn't seem to add up to much. The legal case seems to a modern manifestation of the Witch Hunt. Superstition is alive and well!

[doppler]

You would not want to be inocent, government funded legal aid would be no match for the unlimited resources of the government funded procecution.

[The Mekon]

The last two comments are the most sensible in this thread.

[multiweb]

Yeah, that's a bit of a let down. Maybe they should freeze his asset and compensate the victims. That would hurt more. The wallet.

[xelasnave]

Take it all.
Drug lords lose it
Precedent available law runs on precedent
Family would be hurt but that is the price ..you have lost your rights to inpass wealth

[leon]

Maybe they should freeze his asset and compensate the victims. :question:

I don't get this compensation bit, so if the victims get x amount of dollars dose that fix it, and "they all feel better now". :shrug:

Leon :thumbsup:

[multiweb]

Not fix it but being abused vs. being abused + richer. Yeah I'd take it still. Let the ba$tard pay for it litterally.

[pmrid]

Drug dealers lose only what can be shown (or inferred) to be the proceeds of their crimes. But in less 'enlightened' times, people convicted of capital offences lost everything inluding even the right to vote. They became non-persons. I've forgotten what this was called.

But now we're trendy liberals and such barbarities belong to history. Right?

Peter

[xelasnave]

Peter I an reasonably confident your ideas are more or less correct.
The wonderful thing about the law is that it was originally given to us by God ..unfortunately man has no kept the spirit of the law the way God did becoming less includes to smite those who did not obey the law.
In my view we need more smiting for the law breakers. God would leave them less than homeless without status..he would leave them smited and that is a status as low as you can get.
Even though I do not believe God exists I think his administration of law superior of that of man.
Smite Rolf Harris and we don't have to speak of him again.
Sadly a nonresident God has it right in my view.
And you could make a list of mungrels who deserve a good smiting

[Zaps]

Please smite this post.

[xelasnave]

Yes you are right
I have broken the rules...sorry to folk who have a different view...sincerely I mean that

[CJ]

:lol:

[multiweb]

:lol:

[brian nordstrom]

:rofl: that's funny .
Brian