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sjastro
20-06-2014, 08:20 AM
Lagoon nebula.
3 hrs Ha, 1 hr R, 1 hr G, 1 hr, B. BRC-250 STXL-11002.
I am investigating a new procedure where full contrast of the Ha luminance image is not compromised in the final colour image by processes such as blending the Ha and R data to preserve colour balance.
High resolution here.
http://members.iinet.net.au/~sjastro/Lagoon_test.jpg
Steven
gregbradley
20-06-2014, 08:29 AM
That looks very good Steven. Lots of detail yet good colour.
Greg.
Rod771
20-06-2014, 10:39 AM
Yes, very nice detail.
Looking good :thumbsup:
strongmanmike
20-06-2014, 10:46 AM
Yeah, great details there for sure, an amazing area in high res.
The silver stars with rings could be worked on, maybe cut and paste the RGB stars back in?.. aaaand the decon is a tad obvious in the bright areas, other than that great stuff :thumbsup:
Mike
Andy01
20-06-2014, 01:59 PM
Which HaRGB process is that your're using? Is it one of these?
http://starizona.com/acb/ccd/software/ps_hargb.aspx????
http://www.robgendlerastropics.com/HARGB.html
Just curious as I gave a talk to the ASV guys on this topic last week.
cheers
Andy
Geoff45
20-06-2014, 02:05 PM
Amazing detail Steven. One of the best I've seen.
Geog
Ff
atalas
20-06-2014, 03:51 PM
Lovely Steve.
sjastro
20-06-2014, 05:03 PM
Thanks Louie.
Thank you Geoff.
Andy,
Neither technique was used.
The objective was to avoid any blending of the Ha and R data to form a new luminance as some contrast is lost when compared to a straight Ha luminance.
The procedure is to process a HaRGB image in PixInsight. This does a good job in maintaining star colours without any HaR blending.
The resultant image however has the typical salmon pinkish colour of using a straight Ha luminance.
The pinkish colour is removed by using the shadow highlights command in Photoshop in reverse as is the usual processing procedure.
Here the shadows correction is set to 0%, while the highlights tab is shifted to the right until the pink is removed.
Further tweaking of the colour balance is done against a straight RGB reference.
I have used this procedure on this NGC3247 (http://members.iinet.net.au/~sjastro/ngc3247Ha.html) as well.
MIke,
Strange the decon is a bit obvious as no deconvolution was used. Only a touch of a wavelet filter was used.
Thanks Rod
Thank you Greg.
Clear skies
Steven
strongmanmike
20-06-2014, 06:10 PM
Ah I see, I guess the wavelet function can impart a similar look to heavy deconvolution if applied a little too aggressively then..?
Still an interesting exercise in processing otherwise :thumbsup:
Mike
gregbradley
20-06-2014, 06:19 PM
:lol: Is sharpening and decon the new "noise":rofl:
The silver halos around some of the brighter stars is something that could be repaired most likely. I wonder what caused that.
As I recall there was another Ha blend image recently that had trouble with halos around stars from the Ha and that was from PI. Is there some setting in PI (PI always seems to have millions of obscure settings in their tools dialogue boxes) that corrects that? Cutting and pasting stars back in most likely won't handle it as those rings are larger than the stars. Probably needs a star mask done before that step to protect them.
Greg.
strongmanmike
20-06-2014, 06:21 PM
Noise..? what is that? :question: :lol:
RickS
20-06-2014, 06:22 PM
I noticed some decon like artifacts too. Nice processing otherwise, Steven.
sjastro
20-06-2014, 07:41 PM
Thanks for the feedback.
Here is a more restrained version.
http://members.iinet.net.au/~sjastro/Lagoon_test1.jpg
Clear skies
Steven
strongmanmike
20-06-2014, 07:44 PM
Sorry Steven but the detail still really "looks" artificially wormed :shrug:
The stars look better now though :thumbsup:
Mike
alpal
20-06-2014, 11:46 PM
Hi Steven,
that's great data.
Don't worry about what others say about sharpening -
I think every image can be lifted by a little sharpening -
it gives the eyes something to focus on.
I would have processed the brighter middle part like this.
I hope you don't mind?
I played around with colours & contrast with curves & masks.
cheers
Allan
sjastro
21-06-2014, 07:03 AM
No problems Alan.
Regards
Steven
sjastro
21-06-2014, 07:05 AM
Any better now?
http://members.iinet.net.au/~sjastro/Lagoon_test2.jpg
Clear skies
Steven
gregbradley
21-06-2014, 12:02 PM
I like it. Pay the Vets fee and you are all clear!
Greg.
RickS
21-06-2014, 01:14 PM
Looks good to me!
multiweb
21-06-2014, 05:15 PM
Sweet shot. Looks very good.
strongmanmike
21-06-2014, 07:42 PM
Yes, now the detail looks real and the stars have improved :thumbsup:
Mike
sjastro
22-06-2014, 08:30 AM
I'm going to have to take out pet insurance on getting rid of those worms Greg.:lol:
Thanks Rick.
Thanks Marc.
Those deworming tablets worked fine Mike.
Clear skies
Steven
sjastro
22-06-2014, 08:42 AM
I've decided to add one final process to the image.
It is a stretching function I developed in Pixinsight where the pixels are mapped to the following function newpixelvalue = oldpixelvalue*exp(-0.2*oldpixelvalue).
This function allows the fainter areas to be stretched without increasing noise in the background.
High resolution here:
http://members.iinet.net.au/~sjastro/Lagoon_test3.jpg
Clear skies
Steven
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