its 'advice' not 'advise'!

[fringe_dweller]

if I see advice spelt 'advise' one more time in a thread title I will jump off a tall building onto your OTA ARRRRGGGGGGGGGGG STOP IT pleaaassseeee stop it c..a ..n..t t..a..k..e i..t a..n..y..m..o..re
I have lost count of how many times I have seen this word missused in thread titles in this fine forum - must number in the hundreds now, please, please, please, the word is advice -
unless you phrase the question differently ie. could someone advise me on such and such .. otherwise its advice
its a little thing - but too me it has become like fingernails on a blackboard

from http://dictionary.cambridge.org/define.asp?dict=CALD&key=1237
'Definition
advice
noun [U]
an opinion which someone offers you about what you should do or how you should act in a particular situation:
Steven gave me some good advice.
I think I'll take your advice (= do what you suggest) and get the green dress.
Can I give you a piece of advice?
I need some advice on which computer to buy.
[+ to infinitive] My advice is to go by train.
We went to Paris on Sarah's advice.
NOTE: Do not confuse with the verb, advise.'

'advise
verb
1 [I or T] to give someone advice:
[+ to infinitive] I think I'd advise him to leave the company.
His doctor advised him against smoking.
I'd strongly advise against making a sudden decision.
[+ that] They're advising that children be kept out of the sun altogether.
[+ ing form of verb] I'd advise waiting until tomorrow.
[+ question word] She advised us when to come.
She advises the President (= gives information and suggests types of action) on African policy.
You would be well-advised to (= It would be wise for you to) have the appropriate vaccinations before you go abroad.
NOTE: Do not confuse with the noun, advice.'

cheers
from the 'pedantics have a point society'

[Dennis]

My advice to you might be to advise you not to take this so seriously.

Cheers

Dennis

[ving]

just lay down for a bit kearn and it will be ok...


oh, and thanks for your advice on advise :P

[matt]

Gee...

you really gotta get out more!:lol:

How do you pick on one small thing like that but overlook many others:shrug:

Relaaaaaaaaaxxxxx, breathe.... 1....2.....3

[Striker]

My advice is to delete this thread...who cares about spelling or incorrect terminology...it's a forum not a English lesson....but I had a good laugh about it anyway.

This number will help: Help line 1800 489 999

[fringe_dweller]

hehe haha their comin to take me away hehe
ommmm ommmmm ......breathing deeply now thanks guys :thumbsup:
assuming the lotus position now - or is that featal position? i'm not sure :rofl: :hi: :sadeyes:

[mojo]

Because some things get annoying when they're done over and over again.
I understand Kearn's angst. We're not pedantic - we're correct ;)

[fringe_dweller]

ummm ...english teachers, editors :shrug:
dunno lets just all make up our languages
heres mine - yey weratwa humberveee

[astro_nutt]

This reminds me of a script from "24"...

[ving]

:lol2:

you sure are a funny guy :)

[fringe_dweller]

Thanks Terry :) - thats right its the sheer number of times that was the straw on this old camels back - sheesh its only one little letter different, is it that hard? :lol: :help:

[matt]

Good onya:rolleyes:

[asimov]

'but >too< me it has become like fingernails on a blackboard'

^^^^^ AAAAHHHH!:P ;)

[matt]

Guess who left out an apostrophe in his last sentence???

hehehehe!

[Dennis]

I think its Aum, Aum, Aum...... although I am not sure? However, I do feel for you as clearly written and correctly spelled posts do help convey a precise, unambiguous meaning which must minimise the potential for flame wars arising from poor communication?

Cheers

Dennis

[leon]

We better close the site down, if we are to worry about something so trivial, we all spell things wrong sometimes, who cares, i'm here to make Astronomy enjoyable, and learn from others.

[asimov]

Heaven forbid we leave out an apostrophe.........or put one in where its not warranted! he-hee!

Ahhh! Just like old times ain't it!?

[fringe_dweller]

:) thanks Ving, ..I try? just call me 'super spelling guy' hehe able to leap tall spelling bee's in a single adjective, stop speeding crosswords in a nanosecond ect. ... well you know the rest :screwy:

[matt]

Or use "advise" instead of "advice"...

hahahaha!

[matt]

spot the misuse of the apostrophe in this sentence.

Sorry fringy...

if you wanna live by the sword:P

[Striker]

Thats easy to undestand...it says I am sorry but it's just that time of the month for me.

[asimov]

I only have one bit of valuable ADVICE Fringy....GET AN EQ YA MUG!!

YEEE-HAAAA!

[astro_nutt]

Lucky we didn't start a "what cheeses me off" thread...eh! people!!..(no offence!)

[Dennis]

Hmm, we have a "Forum Runaway" akin to a chain reaction or nuclear meltdown. Does anyone have any advice on how to stop this? Can you advise me of the correct steps to take?

My last words, as my sides are painfully hurting from way too much laughing.

Cheers

Dennis

[asimov]

Mine too Dennis! Thanks for brightening up my day Kearn!!:rofl: :rofl: :thumbsup:

[matt]

Classic:rofl:

[fringe_dweller]

Leon, its thread titles that get to me - not the content of the thread, that doesnt bother me, i'm just as bad in that department as anyone, but thread titles, thats like the book cover title being misspelt to me,

heya Asi :hi: your right we've been here before havent we ;) :rofl:

[ving]

hello super spelling guy...

whats this got to do with electro convulsive therapy? :P

[GTB_an_Owl]

this is all the icemans FAULT!
all these new improvements to the site and NO SPELT or GRANMA check
gotta get your game upto scratch Mike
otherwise we are going to have fun with threads like this

[astro_nutt]

Bless you all for the smile on me dial!!..gonna relax with a few mates..Jack daniels, Jim beam and Johnny Walker!!...CHEERS!!..LOL

[matt]

No matter how you spell 'em... that's an unmistakably fine trio:D

[h0ughy]

Advise Mike to have a spelling link added, followed with photon torpedos for the incorrect usage for the benefit of Mr Fringy (who is quite correct on this issue)

[Striker]

Come to think of it I dont like the fact that some members names start with "I" can we do something about this....it's been bugging me for year's now so I think it's time for me to say something....lol

[matt]

According to whom?

I'm sorry, but who died and made you the Spelling & Grammar Police????:rofl:

[fringe_dweller]

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :whistle:

*super spelling guy crawling back under his rock now* :hi:

[asimov]

Bloody chicken! Come back & face the music like a good lil' dob owner!!:P

[Striker]

No Kearn you have brought to life what was a boring afternoon for me...for this I thank you.

Anything else your not happy with: maybe the black writting..how about Vings Cow....I got it....the amount of times "the" is used in a sentance.

[matt]

Fringy.

Maaaaate!

It's not that I don't know where you're coming from and the point you're making. I make a living out of the written word and spend most of my day editing the stuff.

But I don't come to this forum with an editor's eye. Otherwise I'd spend the entire time hearing fingernails being drawn down blackboards:lol:

I think there's a danger of making this great place less inviting and welcoming when we head down this path?

How many people lurking on the fringes could be potentially discouraged from joining up if they think something like the mistaken use of "advise" or "advice" could potentially cause ire??

It's just my opinion, but it seems a little dictatorial.

Sorry, but that's how I see it.:thumbsup:

[GTB_an_Owl]

OH Yes - thankyou Kearn
you have put me in the right frame of mind now for my birthday evening
WHO cares if they misspell "birthday" on my cake
(just as long as I get one) - (cake i mean)

[h0ughy]

What, questioning my words:eyepop: . just like everyone else, Self certifications;) :D . Dying for this just and noble cause is just, pure, and righteousness will prevail heathen :) . Ye of questionable parentage, thats right, out with it, let us go ye back to the noble olde english and be done with it:lol: jousting with serifs at 20 paces

[h0ughy]

now if you think of it as ITHICAS and iceman we can the using the age old aussie way of shortening the english language (edit) alter it to comply whith Occar, venacular, therefore shortening it to ITHICASICEMAN. See makes simple sense and there is no loss of meaning (much) :rofl: :P :D

[fringe_dweller]

*crawls out back from under rock* guys, :cheers: Thanks for all your posts, and letting me get that off my chest, IIS is the best therapy I could hope for hehe

Tony, now that you mention it, Ving's lolling cows head avatar is really starting to get on my nerves :P I mean why is a cow listening to headphones and mooving to the beat? surely thats just not possible, is it?:confuse3: I think Ving has gone to far this time :tasdevil:
and yeh i think we could do with striped or a colourfully polka dotted text/font, I mean isnt this 21st century or what?

Matt, cheers I'm ok now, took a stress pill all is looking rosy again - seriously I doubt think my little dummy spit thread will stop anyone from joining or participating in this forum, well I certainly hope not!, but they might listen to my advice :P and correctly use in the thread title's? Hey I have to listen to American pronunciations of certain english words on TV and movies all the time - now thats something that gets me really going :) gggrrrr

Geoff, LOL, no worries, and have a great night mate :cheers: :rockband: :birthday:

[Octane]

Kearn,

I advise you to take your own advice; it's "it's", not "its".

kthxbi,
Humayun

[Greg Bryant]

Thankyou, Octane. I was about to launch into the thread title myself.

Nice post for a Thursday...

[matt]

Greg... Octane.

Yes, I noticed the irony of the apostrophe situation earlier in this thread.;)

Ironic, is it not?:lol:

What can you do?

Ah well... back to the backyard for some imaging.

[RAJAH235]

Very amusing thread guys.
I, being of the 'very old school brigade', find that the, so called 'new way' of talking/speaking/writing, is irritating to say the least.
Thank you Kearn, for a most enjoyable way in which to highlight that fact.
If I may tho., I have 'learned to live with (some) of it'! Tis a bit hard to 'go against the flow', once it has started, without a very large piece of 4" X 2" in hand. I think you/we just have to grin n bear it. :D
Thanks guys. I can now get up off the floor & dry my eyes. :P
Regards, L

[matt]

Let's not run the risk?:thumbsup:

I think one of the really attractive aspects of IIS is its friendliness and non-intimidatory nature.

I know it's one of the reasons I joined, compared to other sites around at the time.

I think it's even part of the ethos of this site?

I'm just wondering how "friendly" it might appear to someone thinking of signing up to see someone railing so vehemently over something like this?

Just a thought, inspired by a sense of wanting to keep thing "laid back".

Cheers and clear skies;)

[fringe_dweller]

:lol: touche' fella's, you know its funny and strange, but I dont care much about grammer and apostrophy's, punctuation ect. (obviously!) and I guess that would annoy the hell out of real pedant!
but en masse epidemic misuse of a short simple everyday word (and I have seen frequent use of the word advise instead of advice on ALL the forums and groups I frequent for years now) I guess I am not a full pedant, only a occasional spelling one.
It's not like its just a simple typo either, they dont bother either, there is only one other simple everyday word I find this with as well, but cant remember what it is atm :nerd:

LOL Laurie, we may be the last sentinals against a tide of spelling barbarism :P like king canute's with 4"x2"s ;)

Ok no problem Matt, this is the only word I would react like this with, so its unlikely I would do it again - or would I :poke: :evil: SO BEWARE EVIL SPELLERS SUPER SPELLING GUY IS WATCHING!

[matt]

And perhaps not a full hypocrite:lol:

[Calin]

I believe that's foetal and "ect..." is etc... :poke::cloudy: guess that crossword was a train wreck :rofl:

[astro_nutt]

Well!!...this has been an interesting thread!!!..hasn't it?...but I will say this..since I joined the IIS forums..I have found it more than a site of technical information...it is full of great adventures...and of those who take on a challenge..wether it's going to their first star party..or crafting a mirror..showing their grankids Saturn...and even expressing how we feel about something..each one of us will do so at some time or another..and I don't think anyone would be detered from this forum...sure..it started off serious enough..and I understood where FD was coming from...but it lightened up along the way...either way...this is a great forum..with even greater people too I might add...and I'm honoured to part of it!!!

[mojo]

You guys crack me up.

c'mon Kearn! It's only 50 posts and you've given up. That's it, you're out of the club! :lol:

[matt]

And you crack us up, Terry:)

[h0ughy]

Is that advice or advise MOJO!;) :D

[mojo]

Neither. My fellow pedant needs support. I wouldn't bother usually, but this is the closest I'm going to get to exercise.

Go Kearny, go. rah rah rah ...ah ...ah ...h .....got a stitch.

[h0ughy]

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :thumbsup:

[fringe_dweller]

well done tooooo Calin (and asi earlier with the 'too' typo :P) you have both found some of my carefully placed spelling errors :thumbsup: - the rest of you score ZERO on your test - let Asi and calin be shining examples to the rest of youse

I am glad I didnt (deliberately) mispell foetal in 'faetal position' with a c instead of a t, or maybe that would describe the real position i am in presently?

and what is a 10 letter word for train crash?, just doing it now

[RAJAH235]

Go Mojo.......:P...:D L.
ps. Ah...excercise. Now how does that work again?

[ballaratdragons]

Kearn,

Thank you for pointing out the incorect spelling off words in this sight!!! Ya dont have to serch far too find any. And to many people leve out apstrofees or put em in the wrong place's.

Drives ya nuts dont it.

[fringe_dweller]

Post No 57 - I can do it, I think I can do it - unfortunately the bloodthirsty redfaced rage of pedant has left me somewhat, but I think they felt that withering pedantic blast, and I think they got the 'dont mess with pedants' message ggrrrrr



Thankyou for your support Terry, we must stick together, I feel like the famous eddy the eagle must of at the ski launch at the winter olympics - but i admit I wouldnt be able to have overuse emoticons and spam so efficiantly if it wasnt for this blistering paced new server/webspace - :D
cheers

[ballaratdragons]

Kearn, your grammar!!!

Try it like this!

Thankyou for your support, Terry, we must stick together. I feel like the famous Eddy the Eagle must have at the ski launch at the Winter Olympics. But I admit I wouldn't be able to have overused emoticons and spam so efficiantly if it wasn't for this blistering paced new server/webspace. :D
Cheers.

:D

[fringe_dweller]

hi Ken, yep :) , we are on the same page here, i'm not saying I'm perfect 'hey look at me I can use the correct word for advice in a sentence' but I see this mistake nearly everyday in thread title's - I was just making the point that 'i'm as mad as hell and not going to take it anymore' only joking :rolleyes:

[fringe_dweller]

your damn good at this Ken, hmmmm you sure your not one of us!

I fear the word advise is so often misused now, that it has become endemic and entrenched as the correct word, as a result.
I think it was the three million spam emails that misused the word in the title that got to me as well - I mean that annoys me that those scammers in nigeria or where ever they are, if they are trying to ripp off your life savings at least they could is use the spell checker!:screwy:

[ballaratdragons]

:lol:

I'm with you!

[RAJAH235]

Hey Kearn, do you have a glitchy keyboard or just an gl/itchy trigger finger?

Sorry to be so...............ummmmm......Now what is that word?... :P......:poke:...:D :D :D L.

[asimov]

'your damn good at this Ken, hmmmm you sure your not one of us!'

^^ That seems to be a question rather than a statement, as such it will need a '?' on the end of it. One can't be TOO pedantic about this..

[asimov]

:p

[asimov]

Bugga! Me smilies have gone kapooot !! NOOOOOOOOO !!

[RAJAH235]

Hey, asiiconloser. Yas gotta use CAPS, maaaate.....:P :P :P :D L.
ps. I'm glad this is in the correct forum????? I think...

[asimov]

Bugga! :doh: :whistle:

[ballaratdragons]

Geeez, even the smilies are 'Case Senstive!'

Is that a 'Grammatical' or 'Spelling' error? :lol:

[fringe_dweller]

BWHAHAHHAHAAA NOW YOU WILL BE POWERLESS WITHOUT THEM AHAHHAHAHHAHHAHA :evil: :eek: :fight: :atom: :eek:

[asimov]

Ah! Found 'em! :P Can't keep a good EQ owner down for long! :P :D :hi:

[ballaratdragons]

Thou hast to waketh early in the morn to be at thy fullest of forebearing in thee usage of Queens English.

Nay, one can neither be of a Knaves impudence, nor of a Maidens tongue!

Thou must be warest of thy speech henceforth.

Thou hast been warned in the full measure!!!

[RAJAH235]

Darn. Was hoping you'd lost your shift button/s... :D L.

[asimov]

Yeth, I ageeath Kenetffthhh..

[ballaratdragons]

:rofl: That's 'agreeath' Asi!

:lol: :lol: :lol:

[asimov]

Nope! :D I'm armed & dangerous now, watch out! :computer:

[fringe_dweller]

yes it was a glitch Laurie,

you guys are going to have to fight the good fight and spam on without me I'm afraid, going to sleep now, taking my dictionary and thesaurus and going to bed, tomorrows another day for the never ending fight against the bad/lazy spellers of the world, and launching tirades..so look out, the eyes of texas are upon you!

[acropolite]

I always remember my English teacher telling me you never start a sentence with But..... :poke: Kearn, may I suggest a cuppa (i.e. cup of) tea, a bex and a good lye down......:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

[ving]

you leave astrobelle alone you bully kearn!!! :P

[astro_nutt]

Now I KNOW I've seen this on "24"!!!..(hic!)

[fringe_dweller]

Now that the baying lynch mob appears to be muted and sated, and after ruminating a little further on this response, I feel compelled I must remark upon the remarkable.
After comments all the way from aspersions on my gender, and indeed that I was actually menstruating! (moderators please! - that was actually sexist and blokey to say the least and straight from the front bar), and people lining up to put the boot in, including an advertiser!!! dark waters indeed!. And that my thread would actually change the course of the universe and put people off joining in - I wonder how many people are actually equally put off joining by such atrocious spelling?
I must admit I have always loathed peer group pressure since high school, and am extremely reviled by it, and it saddens me that it appears it is alive and well in here at times.
I know it has been pointed out many times that the policy of this forum is one that is likened to a extremely benevolent dictatorship, rather than a democracy, and we should act as if we are visiting in icemans lounge room for sunday lunch. But I think there is room for individuals who think for themselves still???
I remember being publicly attacked once over construction of my posts, they were accused of being eccentric and hard to read and causing a problem for others, and the usual fall of civilisation would follow ect., this person went on to become a moderator later on, I dont remember a single mob member saying 'lighten up' on that matter at the time, so I assumed it was ok to be pedantic and remark on the shortcomings of others, unless of course the 'mob' thought I deserved it?.
This person has also appeared at times in the distant past to have a personal 'vendetta' towards me I felt.
He may have percieved that I was a threat to something or rather and an agitator or worse ...a smartass!! heaven forbid!, I think he called me purely a troll despite my obvious interest in the subjects that make up this forum!
Personally I think/know this forum is more robust than some imagine or pretend it to be.

To Ving, I know you know I was only joking mate :) , and I well remember the deafening public outcry for the return of astrobelle, when you changed your avatar that time!

To all the supporters and funny buggers I salute you :)

[asimov]

No, I salute YOU Kearn for telling it how it is. :thumbsup:

[matt]

GET...OVER...IT!!!!!:D

Stop feeling sorry for yourself...

and get back to what we're all here for.

If we're talking about peer group pressure and people dictating terms, I think that's what you were doing in your initial post.

Live and let live, eh?

No-one's got a problem with people thinking for themselves. Just try to think of something more.... useful??? Or less critical???

Let it go.

Please, fringy!!!:prey:

[RAJAH235]

:2thumbs:...Kearn.....:D L.

[iceman]

Points all well made. Spam well made. Thread has reached a logical conclusion and I feel it needs to stop here before people get upset over something that may or may not have been said the right way.